Top Chef 6: Vegas Baby!

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pjadedd		#1461	[-]
Posts: 10318 (10/23/09 8:22 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It's boring because no one is doing it for Zoi.
LOLABINGO		#1462	[-]
Posts: 7825 (10/23/09 9:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I thought that bossy controlling freak was an asshole, and I would have sworn at him a lot more than Robin did. Back the fuck off dickwad, you don't touch the dish I am sending out in this competition. It's my ass on the line here, and who the hell do you think you are? I don't like Robin, but I really can't stand that superior attitude of his, and it's a fucking competition, since when do you let a competitor mess with your dish? I'd tell him to shove it up his ass, and no matter what he thinks of my skills, I am still here--just like him, so shut the fuck up and take care of your own dish. As far as the cancer stuff? Who cares? It is part of her, and I don't see her mentioning it "too much" or using it, she's just not hiding it, and the show is using it as a bit of a hook. Too me, saying that experience with cancer made her look for healthier food is not one bit different than saying being in the army made you appreciate potatoes. Admitting you changed because of cancer isn't a plea for sympathy, it's simply part of who you are, and a refusal to "hide" something life changing. I think I only like the bearded guy and Jen.
Drew B		#1463	[-]
Posts: 6523 (10/23/09 9:24 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LOLABINGO wrote: I don't like Robin, but I really can't stand that superior attitude of his, and it's a fucking competition, since when do you let a competitor mess with your dish? I'd tell him to shove it up his ass, and no matter what he thinks of my skills, I am still here--just like him, so shut the fuck up and take care of your own dish. That would make sense if it was an individual challenge, but it wasn't. They were a team. And if Robin's dish wasn't executed well enough, it could mean the difference between the team winning or losing, and that could lead to any one of them (not just Robin, but Michael, Bryan or Eli) going home.
LOLABINGO		#1464	[-]
Posts: 7829 (10/23/09 10:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	She lived or died on her own dish, group comp or not. If they did "fail" and she was the worst, she would have gone home. She had the right (actually the obligation) to plate that sucker any way she thought would show her skills best. How many times have we seen contestants let others bully them into cooking or sending it out someone else's way? She listened when she thought his advice helpful, she didn't when she disagreed, AS SHE SHOULD HAVE. The judges liked the dish and I heard no criticism about her plating. No one elected that bozo boss, and unless they had, he should have backed off the first few times she asked him too. Last Edited By: LOLABINGO 10/23/09 10:14 PM. Edited 1 times.
ImCrushingYourHead		#1465	[-]
Posts: 4822 (10/23/09 11:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Robin's dish had sucked, as it seems some of her other dishes have, his condescension would have seemed more justified.
f2goat		#1466	[-]
Posts: 267 (10/24/09 5:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Drew B wrote: cginspace wrote: I think it does. Like Bryan said (and he is not an angel in my eyes, either), people should not always be rewarded for poor behavior. Even when Ash complimented him a few weeks back, as I noticed rewatching that episode, he looked like he wanted to punch him. In my eyes his kitchen etiquette is poor. I know many in the restaurant industry disagree and think you have to be so aggressive and hands-on. To ME, it means he does not deserve a win. A Top Chef, to me, needs to play well with others, at least to a degree. LOL! That's because Ash's "compliment" was fully intended to put all the blame for the failed dish on Michael! Not true. Re-watch the episode. At Judges Table, after the contestants had gone back to the stew room, Tom said that "Ash all but invited us to send him home if theirs is the worst dish." Tom certainly did NOT hear it as an attempt to lay the blame on Michael.
f2goat		#1467	[-]
Posts: 268 (10/24/09 6:11 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cginspace wrote: Robin owned her own restaurant. She has experience. Anyone can own a restaurant. That is no guarantee at all that you have relevant experience, because when you own the restaurant, you can run the kitchen any way you want - including badly. Tons of crappy cheftestants have owned restaurants. But the more important question is: in whose kitchens have you worked? According to Robin's bio she is self-taught (no culinary school) and worked in the catering dept. at the Univ. of Michigan. No other restaurant experience is listed. Jen works for Eric Ripert. The Vs worked for Charlie Palmer. Kevin worked at a Ritz-Carlton (I don't know who was exec at the time, but R-C hotels have a pretty distinguished record of hiring good chefs for their restaurants) before working for Michael Tuohy at Woodfire Grill, where Kevin's now exec chef and co-owner. IOW, these people have worked in established kitchens. Robin worked for a university caterer before running Crave, which is closed.
samxx7		#1468	[-]
Posts: 73 (10/24/09 7:04 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't understand why anyone would back up Robin as a "chef". The crisp she made was the same dish she won prior. So in the whole season thus far she made a crisp in two different visual ways and she deserves to be there? As much as i love the idea of a shitty cook beating out really talented douchebags, i cant stand her doing nothing in the competition or personality wise for this show.
ginaf20697		#1469	[-]
Posts: 38773 (10/24/09 7:29 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think too many people are backing her up as a chef. They are merely stating that Michael V was acting like a douche which he was.
f2goat		#1470	[-]
Posts: 269 (10/24/09 7:57 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	And the crappy chefs know who they are. You can tell by the way they react to winning. The crappy ones make comments like "winning shows that I belong here." They want to justify just being in the same kitchen with the others. The good chefs just say that the dish came together the way they envisioned it. Robin knows she sucks. So did Laurine, and Ash.
Drew B		#1471	[-]
Posts: 6524 (10/24/09 10:00 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LOLABINGO wrote: She lived or died on her own dish, group comp or not. If they did "fail" and she was the worst, she would have gone home. She had the right (actually the obligation) to plate that sucker any way she thought would show her skills best. How many times have we seen contestants let others bully them into cooking or sending it out someone else's way? She listened when she thought his advice helpful, she didn't when she disagreed, AS SHE SHOULD HAVE. The judges liked the dish and I heard no criticism about her plating. No one elected that bozo boss, and unless they had, he should have backed off the first few times she asked him too. Michael could have allowed - nay ENCOURAGED - her to send out a sub-par dish, acting on the assumption that if her dish sucked, she'd go home. He didn't do that, though. He cared about the team and that their restaurant send out the best food possible. Whether or not you accept his behavior, I see no evidence that his intentions were anything other than good. In point of fact, though, her having the worst dish would not have necessarily guaranteed that she would be the one to go home. Also, she may not have had the worst dish, but simply a dish that was worse than it could have been, thus landing the team in the bottom and putting one of them at risk. Remember, they didn't know at the time how much the other team was going to crash and burn. Any little detail could have meant the difference between winning and losing...
blockhose		#1472	[-]
Posts: 6294 (10/24/09 10:01 AM) Treadmill martyr Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Whoever posted that Robin and Mike Isabella are on the same level, talent-wise, is an idiot. Don't ever post here again. The pecking order: 1st Tier: Yukon Cornelius Jen Michael Bryan 2nd Tier: Eli Mike I. Dishwasher: Robin
ImCrushingYourHead		#1473	[-]
Posts: 4825 (10/24/09 2:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That is exactly my impression of the pecking order too. lol, Robin is the dishwasher. Just don't tell her how to wash!
lizzo1		#1474	[-]
Posts: 1157 (10/24/09 4:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ginaf20697 wrote: I don't think too many people are backing her up as a chef. They are merely stating that Michael V was acting like a douche which he was. X
LuverBoyLuvesBoyz		#1475	[-]
Posts: 3187 (10/24/09 4:32 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Drew B wrote: LuverBoyLuvesBoyz wrote: Bottom line is Michael was treating her like a sous chef and she was obviously not having any of it. ...but if we follow the precedent of previous "Restaurant Wars", one of the chefs IS the leader and the others are the sous chefs. While it wasn't made explicit this time, it is not so far out there for Michael to assume that since he pulled the knife and chose the team, that he was the executive chef and that robin was his sous chef for this challenge... I'm not familiar with Restaurant Wars on Top Chef (I started mid last season). It's just luck that Michael picked first. We all know that if Robin picked first and then selected Michael, he would have still acted the way he did -- and certainly would not have assumed the role of her sous-chef.
LuverBoyLuvesBoyz		#1476	[-]
Posts: 3188 (10/24/09 4:35 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	samxx7 wrote: she made a crisp in two different visual ways and she deserves to be there? Arguably, you could say the same about Bryan's re-vamped quickfire dish. Does that mean he doesn't deserve to be there?
Drew B		#1477	[-]
Posts: 6526 (10/24/09 4:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LuverBoyLuvesBoyz wrote: samxx7 wrote: she made a crisp in two different visual ways and she deserves to be there? Arguably, you could say the same about Bryan's re-vamped quickfire dish. Does that mean he doesn't deserve to be there? Bryan has won or been in the top group more than half the time (probably more than 75% of the time. He deserves to be there. Robin has gotten very little praise for anything OTHER than her crisp. She hasn't been eliminated, so in fact, she DOES deserve to be there. However, all evidence supports the idea that Bryan (and Michael and Kevin and Jen and Mike and even Eli) is a better chef.
Blatantly Oblivious		#1478	[-]
Posts: 1047 (10/24/09 5:18 PM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Now I am enjoying this season, and think a MikeV. Bryan, Jen final 3 is certain - but I just could not resist for old times sake: [Photo: Eat To Blog] Well lo and behold, just who was spotted at Penn Station (NYC) hawking frozen pizzas and giving out free totes? Sweet talker aka Mr. Sugar Lips Fabio Viviani. Shouldn't he be running his very new eatery Firenze Osteria? Apparently not. Fabio was recently spied handing out Dr.Oetker pizzas. And what exactly is a Dr.Oetker frozen pizza? Per the website: "Italy's top-selling frozen pizza is finally being introduced to pizza lovers in the United States. Dr. Oetker is the NO.1 in Italy and is coming with the best seller Ristorante to the US. Dr. Oetker (urt-ker) Ristorante pizza has quickly become a favorite brand of thin-crust pizza among consumers throughout Europe and Canada. And now the United States can enjoy the taste and the atmosphere of an Italian Restaurant for a fraction of the price while dining at home." Aha, Italy's top selling frozen pizza plus Italy's number one Top Chef export... from EaterLA ·
f2goat		#1479	[-]
Posts: 270 (10/24/09 5:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Blatantly Oblivious wrote: Now I am enjoying this season, and think a MikeV. Bryan, Jen final 3 is certain I wouldn't count Kevin out by any stretch of the imagination. I think it would be a travesty if the 4 of them aren't F4, and it could be almost as interesting if the F3 was Kevin, Jen, and a Volt ... and imagine if by knife pull, the eliminated Volt was assigned to be a sous chef against his brother (or with him, for that matter) in the finale. This past week really threw me off for predicting the winner, however. Seafood is Jen's thing. Kevin is a meat guy. How could they both screw up their specialty? And this week, the Portman conditions will probably mess them up further. However, I think that Jen not liking her dish in the preview was probably misdirection, just because the Bravo previews seem to be so reliably about misdirection that they are no longer faking people out. But since Jen is a sauce specialist (sauces have won her challenges, and her mentor Eric Ripert's cuisine is all about the sauce) I think she has an advantage in a vegan type of challenge. I think she'll be able to take something bland - tofu or a mild vegetable - and surround it with an amazing sauce.
seaguy		#1480	[-]
Posts: 18182 (10/24/09 5:39 PM) AI Forum Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	f2goat wrote: and imagine if by knife pull, the eliminated Volt was assigned to be a sous chef against his brother (or with him, for that matter) in the finale. It would nice if they did us a favor and used the knives on each other.

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