Betty isn't in love with Don anymore and I doubt she is in love with Francis. Although maybe she is in love with the fantasy of him. Besides if she marries
him, her life will basically be the same. She will still be the mother of three children and still living in the suburbs with a husband who is probably gone as
much as Don. Oh, and she'll have a step child or two to add to the situation.
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Posts: 4895 (11/02/09 10:19 PM) Registered user |
And you KNOW that guy will cheat on her too.
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trinity17888 |
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Posts: 672 (11/02/09 10:50 PM) Registered User |
I just realized that Jane insisted on going to the wedding so Roger stubbornly insisted she attend and then she spent the whole time in the kitchen watching
TV.
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Posts: 1749 (11/02/09 11:06 PM) Registered User |
I can't in any way defend either Don or Betty. But they are different. Don is a terribly flawed person with the capacity for decency and the constant
ability to screw it up. I have yet to see the capacity for decency in Betty. She flits about on the outside of this supposed nirvana of her life in suburbia,
but doesn't like to get under the surface to where the real emotions are, where dealing with her kids as a nurturing (or frustrated) parent is a constant.
They look more like props in her world.
Don tries and fails. Betty doesn't try. I think this is why Don is more interesting, also why Peggy is more interesting than Betty as well. Peggy and Don are complex, Betty isn't. I do wonder sometimes if it's the acting that propels some characters into truly memorable. |
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Posts: 463 (11/02/09 11:16 PM) |
ImCrushingYourHead wrote:I think Don losing Betty means he's failed. I don't think he ever really expected her to a) find out about his past and b) figure it out, so it has to come as a huge blow that fifteen years of lies are just now blowing up in his face. Betty is exactly why he chose to assume Don's life....to better himself and get out of where his old life would have taken him. Now that that is gone, it leaves him exposed. His perfect "American Dream" family is a sham, and as long as Betty stays with him it will at least allow him some control and not spin-out too much more. |
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Posts: 1457 (11/03/09 06:26 AM) Registered user |
I was going to write a lengthy explanation of my take on Betty, but a couple of posters here are so fucking nuts, you guys just keep on truckin'.
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Posts: 320 (11/03/09 08:20 AM) Registered user |
I've never really understood Betty's motivation. But I always felt like Don was attracted to Betty because she was the exact opposite of his white
trash upbringing.
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Posts: 5 (11/03/09 08:26 AM) Registered User |
The debate about understanding Betty or understanding Don is truly one of the reasons this show is so good. The characters are incredibly nuanced and just when
you think you understand them, they do something to surprise and enlighten you. I just love this show.
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Posts: 833 (11/03/09 08:44 AM) Local user |
betty had no say - she was raised to be a walking, breathing fabrication.
don chose to be one by his own volition. the gypsy and the hobo. |
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Posts: 4365 (11/03/09 08:52 AM) Registered user |
There have been a few instances this season where, for the first time I thought Don was truly detestable. Don has always been a lout and lord knows I
wouldn't want to be married to the guy but the charm was always there. But when he refused to stand up for Sal (something he's now paying for) and a
couple of other times I really found him unlikable. Now I just kind of find him a sad shadow of himself and I want to just pat him on the head and tell him
everything is going to be ok. I love the way this show messes with emotions like that.
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Posts: 9 (11/03/09 09:15 AM) |
That was a sly little bit of black humor when they showed the Aquanet storyboards in Peggy's office - two happy couples riding in a convertible a couple of
days after JFK and John Connolly are killed/injured doing the same - perfect!
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Posts: 1750 (11/03/09 09:26 AM) Registered User |
Oh, god, Karo. You're absolutely right.
And even the angle of the view in the drawings was a match to the famous Zapruder film I don't know if that's horrific or cruelly funny. Call it the Grassy Knoll commercial. I sure hope that someone catches the problem with Peggy's drawings - maybe Sal would, but then again they have no art director now. In the drawings, was as one of the ladies in the convertible wearing a pink suit? |
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Posts: 9369 (11/03/09 09:28 AM) Registered user |
Betty was brought up to believe she was a princess, would marry her perfect prince, and live in a gleaming castle somewhere, traveling the world in the richest
fineries. She's not, nor will she ever be, satisfied with her life as it is. I do sympathize with her, because she got a real bum rush from her parents.
They brought her up to believe all that clap trap. She definitely thinks this new guy is her Prince. The only reason she's leaving Don is because he
proposed to her. If not for that, no way would she leave.
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Posts: 21552 (11/03/09 09:30 AM) Registered user |
Don't you remember when Don, Peggy et al were discussing the commercial for AQUA NET before? They were considering a woman driving in a convertible. And
obviously after JFK's death, Peggy was in the office working on a new concept (because the mock-up was no longer appropriate). Part of me thinks she might
have been typing a resignation letter.
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Posts: 6079 (11/03/09 09:49 AM) Registered User |
Not putting Betty down or defending Don, but Betty's behavior now that she doesn't love Don, doesn't seem that different from when she loved Don
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Posts: 726 (11/03/09 10:21 AM) Registered user |
With Betty on MM and Rita on Dexter, I'm starting to think it's a bad idea to marry a pretty blond chick.
No matter what decade. |
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Posts: 313 (11/03/09 10:49 AM) |
Um, Peggy is working on the Aqua-Net ad on that Monday because she knows they can no longer use it.
Everything to me on this show is flawless. I wouldn't want Betty's character any other way. If I had one grievance this season, it's with Francis' proposal to Betty. We've seen each and every meeting between the two, and I find it reeks of plot contrivance (still well done, but nonetheless). I can stretch it for the Betty character of living in a fantasy world and escaping, but for Francis it seems abrupt. |
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Posts: 727 (11/03/09 10:56 AM) Registered user |
cookie wrote: They could still use it. Just add voice-over to the Zapruder film. I'm pretty sure that if JFK had sprayed enough Aqua Net in his hair, that bullet would have bounced off his head (hey! a new tag line for the ad.) I remember Aqua Net. It was some pretty nasty stuff. |
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Posts: 10 (11/03/09 11:58 AM) |
I just knew they were up to something when they were discussing the Aquanet commercial - something about beautiful women, scarves, convertibles and car crashes
is creepy. Examples:
1. Isadora Duncan. Paris, 1927 - A special message from Nice to the Exchange states that Isadora Duncan, the dancer, was accidentally strangled by the end of her scarf catching in one of the wheels of the motor-car she was driving along the Promenade des Anglais. 2. Jayne Mansfield. On the early morning of June 29 1967, Mansfield died in a car accident on U.S. Highway 90 near Slidell, Louisiana. She was riding in the front seat of the 1966 Buick Electra. Rumors that Mansfield was decapitated are untrue, though she did suffer severe head trauma. 3. Jacqueline Kennedy. Who can forget the image of poor Jackie crawling onto the trunk of that Lincoln as it sped away, or of her blood-spattered pink, Chanel suit that she refused to change out of even back on Air Force One as LBJ was sworn in. Speaking of black Lincolns, who thinks that Betty will get rid of hers quick now that they are in poor taste? |
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Posts: 673 (11/03/09 04:45 PM) Registered User |
cookie wrote: That's right. We saw the foreshadowing of the assassination in that elaborate drawn out Aqua-Net presentation to Don. Just a reminder of what was to come as was Joan's bloody dress in another scene. |
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