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HEROES Season 4: To NOT Be Continued????????????????

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NlGHTCRAWLER		#561	[-]
Posts: 22832 (11/03/09 06:11 PM) >: \| Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Viva la removeaducion! Remove this ad The "flow" of this show never worked again after season 1. Now, we have semi-decent stories happening, but the spacing/timing makes everything SO boring! Example: the Sylar/Matt drama was intro'd in like the first or second episode, and then we didn't even see Matt again for two entire eps. Then Tracey pops up, heads towards the carnival - and then she's not even on last night's show. Peter and Emma interact, and its actually INTERESTING - then POOF - we don't see them for three weeks......all so they can cram FUCKING HIRO down our throats and have Claire quote lines through her teeth. WHY? Let's continue Tiger's WHY questions: * WHY did you call season 3 VILLAINS, release some badasses into the world.....and then quickly kill them ALL in a nice little "clean up" before the season ended? * WHY do you hype up deaths, and then it always turns out to be someone that no one even cares about. Meridith? Seriously? I'm supposed to be upset that someone who has had 20 minutes total of airtime is dying? Also - why wasn't Claire more upset that her mom fucking EXPLODED in a building? * WHY have Nikki survive her insane story arcs, and then just die in a fire? STUUUUUUPID! * WHY would an eclipse start and stop their powers? There wasn't an eclipse when Emma suddenly started seeing soundwaves. And for that matter - why did Nathan suddenly want to round everyone up? AND WY DID SYLAR GO BAD AGAIN FOR NO REASON AND KILL ELLE?! * WHY did you introduce us to cute and interesting things in season 1, and then never refer to them again? What was that monster thing that Isaac saw in the comics? It was mentioned on the show also, I believe. Nothing ever became of it. ALSO - THE SHOW STARTED GOING DOWNHILL WHEN MISTER MUGGLES SCENES WERE CUT!!!! God, I fucking hate this show!!!!
Merrilin		#562	[-]
Posts: 1278 (11/03/09 06:15 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	NlGHTCRAWLER wrote: THE SHOW STARTED GOING DOWNHILL WHEN MISTER MUGGLES SCENES WERE CUT!!!! X
TheEasyOne		#563	[-]
Posts: 2237 (11/03/09 06:28 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	all this complaining is starting to get repetitve. literally it's been the same thing over and over since the end of season 2 to now. When the writing team works on an episode, each writer takes a character and writes the individual scenes surrounding them. These stories are then combined and given to the episode writer. This system allows every writer to contribute to every episode,^[43] and enables the writing team to finish scripts sooner, so the filming crew can shoot more scenes at a location.^[39] Tim Kring describes the writing process as a collaborative one and states that the collaboration process is important because production needs to shoot several scenes at a single location. In order to do this, several scripts have to be ready. ^ The main reason why ths show is so terrible.
unkle greggo		#564	[-]
Posts: 4320 (11/03/09 06:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	So I switched from cable to AT& T before this season started. I forgot to put Heroes back on my DVR, just realized today I haven't been watching the new season. Don't miss it at all.
lml417		#565	[-]
Posts: 778 (11/03/09 06:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	omg watching the first 20 minutes of heroes right now. Fucken Hiro is so pathetic.
Sunshine8503		#566	[-]
Posts: 15054 (11/03/09 06:47 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	* WHY would an eclipse start and stop their powers? There wasn't an eclipse when Emma suddenly started seeing soundwaves. And for that matter - why did Nathan suddenly want to round everyone up? AND WY DID SYLAR GO BAD AGAIN FOR NO REASON AND KILL ELLE? I want to know this too. Here is my rant won't be as awesome as NC though Season one was sooo good. Sure it had its problems but it was good. Every character had a purpose. Sure I disliked some of them but they all played a good part of the show. Peter while naive was likable, Nathan was being played by Linderman and his mother but ended up being the Hero in the end, Mama Petrelli was a fierce bitch, Hiro and Ando were funny and likable, Claire was young, confused, and you felt sorry for her, Matt Parkman, well he was boring untill he dumped his wife, Mohinder was stupid but when he was BFF with Sylar(before he knew Sylar) that was hilarious, HRG was a mystery was he good or was he evil? Sylar was actually menacing and scary and intriguing, Niki's power confused me but her struggle with Jessica was awesome and DL and Micah were there to support and help her. Then season 2 they started to lose it. They stick Hiro in 1600 Japan. That was so fucking lame. He was away from all the other characters and they wasted too much time. They added Adam, Maya, Aljandro, Monica, and Elle already on an over sized cast. While I liked Monica I would of rather they kept DL alive and showed more with him, Niki, and Micah and explore that family more instead of killing him off. Peter losing his memory and being in Ireland was nauseating. I would of liked them show more of Nathan going downhill after thinking Peter died, Claire and West don't get me started! Maya, ALjandro, Sylar god another terrible idea. Then season 3 was a fucking mess from the start. Ok Future Peter is the one that shoots Nathan. Why couldn't of Future Peter told Nathan what happens in the future if he tells the truth instead of killing his own damn brother? Also future Peter acting was 100X worse then present Peter if thats possible. Mohinder injects himself with some powers and kidnaps people and puts them in cacoons LAME. Matt falls in love with Daphne after meeting her for 2 minutes then totally forgetting about her 5 minutes after her death LAME, Hiro and Ando stupid antics, annoying and pointless, hyping villians only to kill them all off. Claire being such a whiny bitch HATE, Nathan all of a sudden beats up Peter and turns on all the Heroes then turn around again to save them, then killing off Nathan instead of letting it go they have to turn Sylar into Nathan. Dumbest plot ever. Along with all of that I think the constant Sylar bullshit is what killed the show for me. His many idenity crises was old. He was a great villian during season 1 but that was it. They should of let him die at the finale. His slicing peoples heads open got old and boring, his parent issues were not interesting. They ruined so many good characters in favor of spending so much time on his bullshit. The show turned into a giant Sylar circle jerk. It pisses me off that they played along with what the Sylar fans want and not only kept him around, but give him too much screentime! I am done with this show. I will still read what you all have to say in the thread to keep me updated. The way they treat the fans and now the cast(How Pasdar found out he was done by reading the script) is pathetic. I hope PAsdar is as outspoken as his wife
Sunshine8503		#567	[-]
Posts: 15055 (11/03/09 07:06 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Spoilers for the 2 who care Yes, once again not really a death since Nathan was dead already, but it seems like there will finally be a battle between not only Sylar and Nathan and Sylar and Matt but Peter and Sylar (as Nathan). At the end of everything apparently Sylar takes over the body and that is the end of Nathan. I am not sure why this had to take place at all but hopefully this will help strengthen Peter's character. I know they are promising an "epic" battle again, but do not get too hyped as we know NBC is also dealing with budget cuts. Hopefully we get some good action and the battle ends up playing out well on screen. Thanks to Knox Kramer and SickofSylar for the heads up about this article from SciFi Wire that provides us with details about these two battles via producer Adam Armus: Executive producer Adam Armus danced around the subject during a recent interview. After he spilled the beans, he swore me to secrecy, and I promised not to reveal who was going to die until the cat was let out of the bag. Well, the cat clawed her way out of that bag, and it's now been reported in several outlets that Adrian Pasdar is the unlucky guy and that his character, Nathan Petrelli, will bite the dust before the year's end. E! Online's Kristin Dos Santos also reported that Pasdar learned about his character's exit not from a phone call, but from a script. "We all know that Nathan Petrelli last year was killed, and his mind was put into Sylar's body and shape-shifted into Nathan," said Armus. "We made some commitments last year, and we've committed that there is going to be an epic battle between two characters and who's going to win and who's going to lose. That's something we've been planning all this year. So we know that someone has to lose." "This whole Sylar-in-one-body-and-his-mind-in-another with Matt Parkman, all that's going to come to a head, because ultimately Sylar is going to win. He's ultimately going to get out of Matt Parkman's head and get back into his body," said Armus. Which would mean it's not looking good for Nathan. Somehow, even on a show called Heroes, Nathan's flying ability probably won't be a lot of help to him if he doesn't have a body. "Once Nathan and Sylar come back together, there is a battle for the life of that body. Who is going to be in control? And whoever loses is the one that dies," said Armus. "It's the knock-down-drag-out 'Who's going to win this body?', and it's going to be between Peter and Nathan/Sylar. And Peter's going to be fighting for his brother." And obviously not winning. Wow Sylar winning yet again! Peter ill go back to EMO mode after not saving Nathan. Pasdar being too classy on his youtube I won't say anything. Yet. Other than that the last four years have been wonderful and ALL the folks that go into making HEROES have treated me professionally and with respect. I am still under contract to NBC/Universal, and will remain so until the end of season 4. On another note, I spent today with Masi Oka at Universal Studios, on the lot, and we had some fun behind the scenes at the Jaws attraction on the Tour... I'll post it in a bit. All I had was my iPhone, so the quality might not be as decent and you're used to... Stay Tuned!
NlGHTCRAWLER		#568	[-]
Posts: 22838 (11/03/09 08:33 PM) >: \| Reply Quote More Recent Posts	So Nathan dies AGAIN? Sylar prevails AGAIN? Fucking bullshit.
GrenadeJumper85		#569	[-]
Posts: 14260 (11/03/09 08:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yea, I still haven't seen last nights episode but I'm not really upset about it. That spoiler about who dies has got to be the biggest letdown EVER! So the person that's dying is someone that is actually already dead?!? WTF? Horrible!
Sunshine8503		#570	[-]
Posts: 15065 (11/03/09 08:43 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Viva la removeaducion! Remove this ad NlGHTCRAWLER wrote: So Nathan dies AGAIN? Sylar prevails AGAIN? Fucking bullshit. Sylar always wins, I don't know why this show is named Heroes
Matt C		#571	[-]
Posts: 895 (11/04/09 01:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Petition to rename the show Sylars
Delores Mulva		#572	[-]
Posts: 385 (11/04/09 01:57 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Last night's episode was so-so. The HRG plot was pure filler. The Hiro plotline was very well done, including the interaction between himself and Sylar, right up until the point carnival guy abducted Charlie. Then Hiro went from being intelligently written back to pants-on-head retarded, with the added insult to the viewer that Mohinder will be coming back.
SardonicallyIrrelevant		#573	[-]
Posts: 22105 (11/04/09 02:34 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I'm trying to watch now. I am so glad the lovely Jayma got a much better gig on Glee. I am sick of Sylar's ugly ass unibrow, ugly ass face and enormous fucking nose. ETA: If Hiro says "Meesah-ah-butta-fry-man" one more time, I am turning it off. Last Edited By: SardonicallyIrrelevant 11/04/09 02:40 AM. Edited 2 times.
JVJrule		#574	[-]
Posts: 3186 (11/04/09 10:20 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I read that this past episode was their highest rated ep. of the season?
The SovereignOne		#575	[-]
Posts: 2223 (11/04/09 08:55 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SardonicallyIrrelevant wrote: I'm trying to watch now. I am so glad the lovely Jayma got a much better gig on Glee. I am sick of Sylar's ugly ass unibrow, ugly ass face and enormous fucking nose. ETA: If Hiro says "Meesah-ah-butta-fry-man" one more time, I am turning it off. I've done too many "what if" posts before so I'll stay away from that... for now. I am also glad that Jayma's short time on this show didn't totally ruin her career (even if she was on it when it was good and successful), however I have to say that I like her in a Charlie-type role much more then the overly OCD type she plays on Glee. Nevertheless, was nice to see her back on Heroes (for as average an episode as it was) and is very nice to know she (like many on Glee) have found life after Heroes. The episode didn't make any sense. I enjoyed it more then most S3 episodes, but that is really not saying much... if anything at all! Didn't hate the HRG side, but yea complete and utter filler. I started writing more, but yea, it just wasn't good. I was really and truly hoping Hiro would destroy the timeline to right after he stabbed Sylar at Kirby... Candice would save Sylar but he would go away for a season, Hiro would teleport to anywhere but Feudal Japan, "4 Months Ago" would be the S2 premiere instead of the 7th Episode, Peter would be manipulated by Bob and work for the Company, David Anders would actually get a role he could do something with, Mohinder working for the company would actually be written and portrayed as good as it could have been, they wouldn't kill off DL just for the hell of it, Elle/Claire/Nikki would be the best 3 female characters on television, and Molly's tease of "someone worse then the Boogeyman" would come to fruition and S2 would be insanely epic...
NellB		#576	[-]
Posts: 646 (11/04/09 11:13 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I have watched every Heroes episode since it began. On Monday, I FELL ASLEEP ON THE EPISODE. I was semi-consciously aware that my dozing meant that I'd miss dialogue between Hiro and Ando (I don't understand Japanese and I can't read subtitles with my eyes shut). But I decided not to fight it. Poor Heroes.
pumpkinpie24		#577	[-]
Posts: 53 (11/05/09 09:43 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sunshine8503 wrote: * WHY would an eclipse start and stop their powers? There wasn't an eclipse when Emma suddenly started seeing soundwaves. And for that matter - why did Nathan suddenly want to round everyone up? AND WY DID SYLAR GO BAD AGAIN FOR NO REASON AND KILL ELLE? I want to know this too. Here is my rant won't be as awesome as NC though Season one was sooo good. Sure it had its problems but it was good. Every character had a purpose. Sure I disliked some of them but they all played a good part of the show. Peter while naive was likable, Nathan was being played by Linderman and his mother but ended up being the Hero in the end, Mama Petrelli was a fierce bitch, Hiro and Ando were funny and likable, Claire was young, confused, and you felt sorry for her, Matt Parkman, well he was boring untill he dumped his wife, Mohinder was stupid but when he was BFF with Sylar(before he knew Sylar) that was hilarious, HRG was a mystery was he good or was he evil? Sylar was actually menacing and scary and intriguing, Niki's power confused me but her struggle with Jessica was awesome and DL and Micah were there to support and help her. Then season 2 they started to lose it. They stick Hiro in 1600 Japan. That was so fucking lame. He was away from all the other characters and they wasted too much time. They added Adam, Maya, Aljandro, Monica, and Elle already on an over sized cast. While I liked Monica I would of rather they kept DL alive and showed more with him, Niki, and Micah and explore that family more instead of killing him off. Peter losing his memory and being in Ireland was nauseating. I would of liked them show more of Nathan going downhill after thinking Peter died, Claire and West don't get me started! Maya, ALjandro, Sylar god another terrible idea. Then season 3 was a fucking mess from the start. Ok Future Peter is the one that shoots Nathan. Why couldn't of Future Peter told Nathan what happens in the future if he tells the truth instead of killing his own damn brother? Also future Peter acting was 100X worse then present Peter if thats possible. Mohinder injects himself with some powers and kidnaps people and puts them in cacoons LAME. Matt falls in love with Daphne after meeting her for 2 minutes then totally forgetting about her 5 minutes after her death LAME, Hiro and Ando stupid antics, annoying and pointless, hyping villians only to kill them all off. Claire being such a whiny bitch HATE, Nathan all of a sudden beats up Peter and turns on all the Heroes then turn around again to save them, then killing off Nathan instead of letting it go they have to turn Sylar into Nathan. Dumbest plot ever. Along with all of that I think the constant Sylar bullshit is what killed the show for me. His many idenity crises was old. He was a great villian during season 1 but that was it. They should of let him die at the finale. His slicing peoples heads open got old and boring, his parent issues were not interesting. They ruined so many good characters in favor of spending so much time on his bullshit. The show turned into a giant Sylar circle jerk. It pisses me off that they played along with what the Sylar fans want and not only kept him around, but give him too much screentime! I am done with this show. I will still read what you all have to say in the thread to keep me updated. The way they treat the fans and now the cast(How Pasdar found out he was done by reading the script) is pathetic. I hope PAsdar is as outspoken as his wife Thanks for putting that all in one place! It really emphasizes what a lousy job the writers/producers have done. It's so erratic; too many unnecessary storylines and too many of them unresolved!
Sunshine8503		#578	[-]
Posts: 15076 (11/05/09 01:14 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	http://barelysarcasm.tumb...3768/re-heroes-tim-kring Hi All, There have been a lot of rumors going around the internets lately. And I've read some hateful things on twitter… and even stuff about our show being canceled. And actually even a full on article about HEROES and killing off members of the show, and about how people are told that they're no longer on the show, and all that. Let me address this in a few sentences here, because as a member of the HEROES family (and I've been here since midway through season 1) I can personally vouch for a lot of things and as THE assistant to Tim Kring, I want to say a few things. 1.) Tim is a great guy. He's honest, hardworking, smart and really super nice. That's all. I couldn't ask for a kinder boss or a more talented and successful person to look up to. 2.) There has been one (1) death on this show that has been discovered by an actor by reading a script and not being told - and it was a limited VERY rough draft that was only given to department heads such that they could scout locations, get wardrobe, etc. In a wardrobe fitting the actor found the script and saw it… And if you're curious - that scene was later changed anyhow and so it was irrelevant and he got upset over nothing. 3.) Anyone who has a legitimately mean or angry thing to say about a TV show REALLY needs to reevaluate and think. We're not brain surgeons or miracle workers or murderers or thieves - we're just a bunch of people (a family of almost 400 actually) who simply want to entertain and produce the best thing that we can. 4.) If you could see the scripts before they get notes - and I'm talking the Studio/Network notes… Generally they are much different from what ends up on the screen… so don't lay all the blame on the writers - it takes a village. 5.) All we want is for people to enjoy themselves and think… If that's not what good TV is about, then I'm wrong. I don't know. I just don't understand how people can be SO mean to someone who hasn't done anything malevolent or evil since the day I've met him 4 years ago. I hope HEROES gets back on your radar, and I hope you all check it out at some point in the next few months (like maybe when the episode I wrote airs in January)… Go ahead and take a look - it's among 2 or 3 shows that look like movies every week (Lost, Heroes and Mad Men - in my humble opinion.) We're not trying to destroy your TV experience, just trying to tell a good story with some fun stuff that happens. /rant Nice try
GrenadeJumper85		#579	[-]
Posts: 14274 (11/05/09 01:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	DAMAGE CONTROL! Kring is such a little shit. I still haven't watched last weeks episode, and I'm not even mad about it really.
Laurabegorrah		#580	[-]
Posts: 1210 (11/05/09 03:25 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Viva la removeaducion! Remove this ad So I'm late to the bandwagon of Heroes - I started watching on Netflix (yeah play it now!). I was so taken in, I had to watch. Couldn't stop. Every night after work and for two full weekends. I got through all three seasons + Season 4 to date in 2 weeks. Maybe it's becasue I've watched it all in such a short time and I've not had years to get jaded, but I still think the show has merit and is entertaining. Yes, I hate Hiro. I'm a bit sick of Syler. I want more Peter. But I'm still hooked. Sure, it's not as fantastic as the first season, but I don't think it's as bad as all of the vitriole here is making it out to be! What am I missing? lol

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