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Flatulence Symphony |
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He was yelling "Admiral Akbar!" He thought he was assaulting the second Death Star.
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blondemss |
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bdebrun=my first lol of o the day
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CBRetriever |
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I think nowadays most muslims are not of Middle Eastern or Arabic descent
20% in Arab countries 30% in Northern Africa 15.6 % Indonesian (largest population of muslims in any country) 9.6 % in Bangladesh |
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Mister Yuck |
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North Africa is pretty Arab, CBR. At least linguistically and probably ethnically to a somewhat lesser degree.
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CBRetriever |
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ethnically is what I was aiming at - the interior regions are more what most americans would think of as ethnically African
it was in response to the comment about racism against muslims - trying to point out, probably futily, that all muslims don't look like arabic or middle eastern types |
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Mister Yuck |
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I was thinking of the Berbers. But they're a minority no?
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CBRetriever |
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oooo, that head butting soccer player is a Berber - looks like most of Morroco and Algeria is Berber, so they're not a minority there
Sudan is part of North Africa and they're kinda mixed ethnically, which is part of the problem there |
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kutabeach |
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CBRetriever wrote: Right, so it isn't racism. It may be "anti-Islam-ism", but not racism. |
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clever trousers |
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Suspect Was 'Mortified' About Deployment
https://s100.copyright.co...p/LoadingApplication.jsp target=_Icon>By JAMES DAO
WASHINGTON - Born and reared in Virginia, the son of immigrant parents from a small Palestinian town near Jerusalem, he joined the Army right out of high school, against his parents' wishes. The Army, in turn, put him through college and then medical school, where he trained to be a psychiatrist.
But Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, the 39-year-old man accused of Thursday's mass shooting at Fort
Hood, Tex., began having second thoughts about a military career a few years ago after other soldiers harassed him for being a Muslim, he
told relatives in Virginia.
He had also more recently expressed deep concerns about being sent to Iraq or Afghanistan. Having counseled scores of returning soldiers with post-traumatic stress disorder, first at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington and more recently at Fort Hood, he knew all too well the terrifying realities of war, said a cousin, Nader Hasan. "He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy," Mr. Hasan said. "He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over there." The Federal Bureau of Investigation earlier became aware of Internet postings by a man calling himself Nidal Hasan, a law enforcement official said. The postings discussed suicide bombings favorably, but the investigators were not clear whether the writer was Major Hasan. In one posting on the Web site Scribd, a man named Nidal Hasan compared the heroism of a soldier who throws himself on a grenade to protect fellow soldiers to suicide bombers who sacrifice themselves to protect Muslims. "If one suicide bomber can kill 100 enemy soldiers because they were caught off guard that would be considered a strategic victory," the man wrote. It could not be confirmed, however, that the writer was Major Hasan. Major Hasan was wounded and taken into custody by the Fort Hood police after the shooting rampage, in which 12 people were killed and at least 31 others were wounded. Though Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison of Texas reported that Major Hasan was to be deployed this month, that could not be confirmed with the Army on Thursday night. Nader Hasan said his cousin never mentioned in recent phone calls to Virginia that he was going to be deployed, and he said the family was shocked when it heard the news on television on Thursday afternoon. "He was doing everything he could to avoid that," Mr. Hasan said. "He wanted to do whatever he could within the rules to make sure he wouldn't go over." Some years ago, that included retaining a lawyer and asking if he could get out of the Army before his contract was up, because of the harassment he had received as a Muslim. But Nader Hasan said the lawyer had told his cousin that even if he paid the Army back for his education, it would not allow him to leave before his commitment was up. "I think he gave up that fight and was just doing his time," Mr. Hasan said. Nader Hasan said his cousin's parents had both been American citizens who owned businesses, including restaurants and a store, in Roanoke, Va. He declined to confirm reports that they were Jordanian but said the parents, who are both dead, had immigrated from a small town near Jerusalem many years ago. His mother's obituary, in The Roanoke Times in 2001, said she was born in Palestine in 1952. It described her as a restaurant owner "known for her ability to keep sometimes rowdy customers out of trouble and always had a warm meal for someone who otherwise would not have anything to eat that evening." Records show that Major Hasan received an undergraduate degree at Virginia Tech and a medical degree at the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda, Md. He did a residency at Walter Reed Medical Center and worked there for years before a transfer to the Darnall Army Medical Center at Fort Hood this year. Major Hasan had two brothers, one in Virginia and another in Jerusalem, his cousin said. The family, by and large, prospered in the United States, Mr. Hasan said. The former imam at a Silver Spring, Md., mosque where Major Hasan worshiped for about 10 years described him as proud of his work in the Army and "very serious about his religion." The former imam, Faizul Khan, said that Major Hasan had wanted to marry an equally religious woman but that his efforts to find one had failed. "He wanted a woman who prayed five times a day and wears a hijab, and maybe the women he met were not complying with those things," the former imam said. Mr. Hasan, 40, a lawyer in Virginia, described his cousin as a respectful, hard-working man who had devoted himself to his parents and his career. Mr. Hasan said his cousin became more devout after his parents died in 1998 and 2001. "His parents didn't want him to go into the military," Mr. Hasan said. "He said, 'No, I was born and raised here, I'm going to do my duty to the country.' " |
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Mister Yuck |
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The Washington Post had a better profile, but for some reason its website is having problems.
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I, for one, am delighted to hear this asshole is still alive. All too frequently in mass shooting cases, the nutbar either gets picked off or turns a gun on
himself. I'd much rather they spend the rest of their lives in prison, then die.
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He was yelling "Admiral Akbar!" He thought he was assaulting the second Death Star. |
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ginaf20697 |
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GregBuisIsADick wrote: Don't forget the part about them getting repeatedly ass raped Oz style. |
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Mister Yuck |
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You didn't see his picture did you?
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superguppie |
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Sudan is part of North Africa and they're kinda mixed ethnically, which is part of the problem thereEthiopia is also very mixed between Muslims and Christians. But they have no oil, so they aren't fighting each other. |
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kutabeach wrote:He's obviously of Arabic descent, check his pic if you missed that. He is Muslim as well, and he was insulted by people because of this. Calling it racism or prejudice, whatever you like, either way Americans acted like bigoted dicks to him and this contributed to his behavior. He's obviously nuts, so I would pin his major problem as that rather than prejudice, but you can't ignore that prejudice played a part in this. |
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factoryhurl |
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spoon raped
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Suspect, devout Muslim from Va., wanted Army discharge, aunt said
By Mary Pat Flaherty, William Wan and Christian Davenport
(Washington Post front page story)
He prayed every day at the Muslim Community Center in Silver Spring, a devout Muslim who, despite asking to be discharged from the U.S. Army, was on the eve of his first deployment to war. Yesterday, authorities said Maj. Nidal M. Hasan, a 39-year-old Arlington-born psychiatrist, shot and killed 13 people at Fort Hood, Tex. In an interview, his aunt, Noel Hasan of Falls Church, said he had endured name-calling and harassment about his Muslim faith for years after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks and had sought for several years to be discharged from the military. "I know what that is like," she said. "Some people can take it, and some cannot. He had listened to all of that, and he wanted out of the military, and they would not let him leave even after he offered to repay" for his medical training. An Army spokesman, Lt. Col. George Wright, said he could not confirm that Hasan (pronounced Hass-in) requested a discharge. As authorities scrambled to figure out what happened at Fort Hood, a hazy and contradictory picture emerged of this son of Palestinian immigrants, a man who received his medical training from the military and spent his career in the Army, yet allegedly turned so violently against his uniformed colleagues. Hasan was born in Arlington and grew up in the Roanoke Valley of southwestern Virginia, a bookish young man who, his father hoped, would go on to significant professional achievement. He spent nearly all of his Army medical career at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in the District, caring for the victims of trauma, yet he spoke openly of his deep opposition to the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan. Hasan, who was shot during the rampage, is on a ventilator at a nearby civilian hospital in stable condition, Army officials said Friday. Investigators have not been able to question him. The Associated Press reported that Hasan attracted the attention of law enforcement authorities in recent months after an Internet posting under the screen name "NidalHasan" compared Islamic suicide bombers to Japanese kamikaze pilots. "To say that this soldier committed suicide is inappropriate," the posting read. "It's more appropriate to say he is a brave hero that sacrificed his life for a more noble cause." In a statement issued late Thursday, Hasan's family said they were "shocked and saddened by the terrible events at Fort Hood" and "filled with grief for the families" of victims. "Our family loves America," said the statement. Noting that Nidal Hasan was an American citizen, the family said: "We are proud of our country, and saddened by today's tragedy. Because this situation is still unfolding, we have nothing else that we are able to share with you at this time. Hasan steered clear of female colleagues, co-workers said. Despite his devout religious practices, he listed himself in Army records as having no religious preference. A longtime Walter Reed colleague who referred patients to psychiatrists said co-workers avoided sending service members to Hasan because of his unusual manner and solitary work habits. Hasan is a 1995 graduate of Virginia Tech who earned a medical degree from the Uniformed Services University of the Health Sciences in Bethesda. From 2003 through last summer, he was an intern, resident and then fellow at Walter Reed, where he worked as a liaison between wounded soldiers and the hospital's psychiatry staff. He was also a fellow at the Center for the Study of Traumatic Stress at the Bethesda military medical school. He had been affected by the physical and mental injuries he saw while working as a psychiatrist at Walter Reed for nearly eight years, according to his aunt. "He must have snapped," Noel Hasan said. "They ignored him. It was not hard to know when he was upset. He was not a fighter, even as a child and young man. But when he became upset, his face turns red." She said Hasan had consulted with a lawyer about getting out of the service. On the rare occasions when he spoke of his work in any detail, the aunt said, Hasan told her of soldiers wracked by what they had seen. One patient had suffered burns to his face so intense "that his face had nearly melted," she said. "He told us how upsetting that was to him." Hasan "did not make many friends" and "did not make friends fast," his aunt said. He had no girlfriend and was not married. "He would tell us the military was his life," she said. The psychiatrist once said that "Muslims should stand up and fight against the aggressor" and that the United States shouldn't be fighting the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan in the first place, according to an interview with Col. Terry Lee, a co-worker, on Fox News. Hasan's father, Malik, immigrated to the United States at age 16 from a Palestinian village in the West Bank, an area controlled by Jordan until 1967 but occupied by Israel since then. There, the family tended to an olive grove, neighbors said. Malik Hasan spent most of his life in Virginia, moving to the Roanoke area in the mid-1980s. He became a successful restaurateur in Vinton, a small railroad town of about 7,800 just east of Roanoke. His businesses included the Capitol, a well-known, blue-collar beer hall on Market Street, the Mount Olive Grill and Bar and the Community Grocery on Elm Avenue. The Hasans lived in a quiet neighborhood of brick ramblers on Ramada Road. Many in the Roanoke Valley who knew Nidal Hasan said their lasting impression was that he was highly intelligent, and somewhat introverted. Thomas O. Sitz, an associate professor of biochemistry at Virginia Tech, where Hasan graduated in 1995, said he was "one of our better students," if not a memorable one. Philip Trompeter, a juvenile court judge who owned the building where the Capitol restaurant was located, said Malik Hasan was "very proud" of his book-smart son and had high hopes for him. Charles Garlick, who lived across the street from the Hasan family in Vinton, described Nidal Hasan as quiet and reserved. "Every time I'd see him, he'd have a book bag over his shoulder," Garlick said. Nidal Hasan's younger brother Eyad -- nicknamed "Eddie" -- played football with Garlick's son, Zachary. But Nidal, who graduated from William Byrd High School, was less social. Hasan's mother, Hanan, who went by "Nora," was known as the "keeper of the peace" at the Hasan family's restaurants. She suffered from kidney problems and died in 2001 at age 49, neighbors said. Malik Hasan died in 1998, at age 52, after suffering a heart attack at his home. The couple is buried in Falls Church. The Hasan family was large and had deep roots in Roanoke Valley, said Amer Azibidi, minister and imam of the KUFA Center of Islamic Knowledge. At Mount Olive, Malik worked with his brother, Jose. The pair cooked many of the dishes, including lamb kebabs and stuffed grape leaves. But the premature deaths of Malik and Nora Hasan had left the family scattered. Nidal Hasan enlisted in the Army after high school over his parents' objections, Noel Hasan said, and attended Virginia Tech, majoring in biochemistry. Eyad Hasan, now 28, graduated from George Mason University and lives in Sterling. Another brother, Anas, also attended Virginia Tech and lived in Kensington, Md., before moving to Jerusalem to work as a lawyer. Hasan was "like my sons," his aunt said, spending holidays and free time at her house. At the Muslim Community Center, Hasan stood out because he would sometimes show up in Army fatigues, said Faizul Khan, the former imam there. "He came to mosque one or two times to see if there were any suitable girls to marry," Khan said. "I don't think he ever had a match, because he had too many conditions. He wanted a girl who was very religious, prays five times a day." In search of a partner in marriage, Hasan wrote in an application filed with a local Muslim matching service that "I am quiet and reserved until more familiar with person. Funny, caring and personable." "He was a very quiet and private person. I can't say that people knew him very well other than attending prayers," said Arshad Qureshi, chairman of the board of trustees at the Muslim Community Center of Silver Spring. "You didn't see him attend anything -- school for children or celebrations. He did not go out of the way to engage people. We have thousands of people who come through to pray; he was just one of them." A co-worker at Walter Reed said Hasan would not allow his photo to be taken with female co-workers, which became an issue during Christmas season when employees often took group photos. Co-workers would find a solo photo of Hasan and post it on the bulletin board without his permission. Lee told Fox News that Hasan "was hoping that President Obama would pull troops out. . . . When things weren't going that way, he became more agitated, more frustrated with the conflicts over there. . . . He made his views well known about how he felt about the U.S. involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan." And when he talked about fighting "the aggressor," he said that his fellow soldiers "should stand up and help the armed forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan," Lee said. Hasan was polite and respectful, according to 1st Lt. Elizabeth Whiteside, who was treated by the psychiatrist at Walter Reed while recovering from a gunshot wound suffered in Iraq. Whiteside remembers Hasan as serious. During his initial evaluation of her, she tried to make light when he coughed by saying, "Bless you." Hasan replied that he had coughed and not sneezed. Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Tex.) told reporters after a briefing on the shootings that Hasan "took a lot of advanced training in shooting." A woman who answered the phone at one of Hasan's previous addresses in Bethesda -- 9304 Cedar Lane -- said her husband, Ajab Khan, had been interviewed Thursday night by federal agents investigating the shooting. She refused to identify herself but said Hasan lived with them "for two months, but he's long gone," before hanging up. * * *
Hasan is an avid Redskins fan. "That was obviously the reason he wanted to off himself and dozens of his colleagues," interim Redskins head coach Tawny Kitaen said early Friday. "He was not a movie watcher. He worked hard and had been studying for years. He buried himself in his work." Noel Hasan was unaware of her nephew's pending deployment. "He didn't call or send an e-mail saying anything like that," she said. His last e-mail to her, she said, was a little more than a week ago "and it was just, "Hi, Aunt Noel. How are you doing?' " |
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rugslug |
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Obama should fire whoever told him it was a good idea to give a "shout out" to somebody before addressing a national tragedy on live TV.
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memyselfandi |
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39 and unmarried? Couldn't he have just said he was gay?
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