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Posts: 1931 (11/09/09 7:38 AM) Registered User |
Everytime I hear Mehta speak I think of Bill Heder's Vincent Price impersonation.
I guess out of the F3 I hope Garces wins but I don't really care anymore...just as long as Mehta doesn't. |
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alexineruby |
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Posts: 3775 (11/09/09 12:01 PM) Registered user |
That still doesn't tell me what *umami* is....
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Kaizer |
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Posts: 1108 (11/09/09 1:12 PM) |
Never heard of Umami until reading this thread. You learn something new each day.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Umami |
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cginspace |
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Posts: 9577 (11/09/09 1:28 PM) Registered user |
Doobie Screw wrote: So Next Iron Chef is all about the MSG! |
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Drew B |
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Posts: 6640 (11/09/09 5:50 PM) Registered User |
cginspace wrote: That's not brilliant - it's bullshit! I know they can't show all of the judges' comments, but what they show should be representative of how they felt about the chef's offerings. Every comment they showed about Freitag was positive, except for the ones about her shiitake mushrooms. And, they really praised her fish dish (the most enthusiastic response of any dish from any chef) and her overall use of rice. Still, she was eliminated. If the judges had a problem with the rice balls or the Kobe beef, we needed to see that during judging, not just in Alton's recap. Mehta, on the other hand, got ripped in nearly every comment they showed, yet he avoided the bottom two. It made no sense! This whole episode made me feel stupid. Like during the first challenge, how the hell could Mehta's apples in caramel taste "umami"? I get how it could be sweet or tart (sour) or even salty, but where is the umami in that dish? I also still have no idea what "yuzu" is, and if it's different from "ouzo" (or however you would spell it) in one of the chef's vinaigrette's... |
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cginspace |
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Posts: 9589 (11/09/09 5:58 PM) Registered user |
I think it was brilliant because it was a mind fuck kind of edit. We are so used to seeing it all telegraphed out. So I loved that they messed with my head.
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Drew B |
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Posts: 6642 (11/09/09 6:02 PM) Registered User |
The edit wasn't simply hiding the outcome and keeping it ambiguous - it was intentionally misleading. You may like being mindfucked like that, but I
don't see the point. If what we see the judges say isn't actually indicative of how they feel, then I see little point in watching it...
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cginspace |
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Posts: 9590 (11/09/09 6:13 PM) Registered user |
I don't like it, but I found it quite clever. I do get tired of the usual obvious editing. It is nice to be a little surprised; though, yes, it was
confusing. And I thought you watched it for the food. So there is the point.
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token lunatic |
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Posts: 27591 (11/09/09 6:24 PM) Registered user |
Now hear this: I want everyone(and that includes YOU) to call me Umami from now on.
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SurvivorJunkee |
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Posts: 587 (11/09/09 6:43 PM) Registered User |
Now I have to admit I thought Freitag would go either this round or next - they had to keep her in long enough so that she doesn't look bad to the network.
If they cut her early it would make her judging on Chopped look like it's being judged by amateurs. I've really thought all along that this is Garces
to win. Mullins is too like Flay so there is no point. And Mehta was a second place finisher to Morimoto in a competition - just can't figure them saying
he's a good enough chef now. But I also agree that they need to show us the comments right - I thought Mullins was gone this round because of what all they
said?
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Drew B |
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Posts: 6644 (11/09/09 6:54 PM) Registered User |
cginspace wrote: That was actually with regard to "Top Chef", but the same sentiment applies. Still, how can we KNOW about the food if we don't see the judges' germane commentary? |
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E Moch |
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Posts: 1316 (11/09/09 7:17 PM) |
I honestly thought they had planted Freitag for a win...Just to have another female Top Chef.
Especially since she's judged "Chopped" AND they sent Appleman home instead of Mullin two weeks ago... And please, please, please...we need Garces to win. I can't stand Mehta and his googly eyes and malfunctioning ice cream machine battle after battle. (PS - Is an Iron Chef leaving?) |
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TimmyTAR |
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Posts: 3126 (11/09/09 10:09 PM) Registered user |
Doobie Screw wrote: Umami = Savory? If that's the case, then I'm still using savory. Knew about savory being a possibly flavor LONG before this Kikkoman umami bullshit, so, yeah. |
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Posts: 429 (11/09/09 10:49 PM) |
Savory is one translation of umami. My understanding is that the concept of "umami" as a taste was first used in Japan a century ago (when MSG was
isolated), and has been used in eastern countries for awhile. It's only been more recently, that the chemical effects and specific taste receptors have
been identified, and is now generally recognized around the world.
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3Diesel |
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Posts: 934 (11/10/09 9:50 AM) |
Interesting...Never heard of that before.
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StatelyWayneManor |
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Posts: 12667 (11/10/09 10:02 AM) Registered user |
E Moch wrote: Mario Batali is leaving. Which sucks, really. |
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Slacking |
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Posts: 1075 (11/10/09 10:11 AM) |
A couple months back, ICA aired an episode that featured Symon going against Culinary School students. It was obviously from the future season aired out of
order and mixed in with the current season (Alton Brown's weight loss as seen in Next Iron Chef was evident). And they only introduced Iron Chefs Flay,
Morimoto, and Cora (and even had a fancy camera shot featuring those 3 and the chairman).
Batali was one of the stronger Iron Chefs, but he hasn't been featured in quite a long time, hopefully they will at least give him a proper send off. |
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SurvivorJunkee |
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Posts: 588 (11/10/09 11:51 AM) Registered User |
Well that bites! Batali is always good.
Come to think of it though they had an article on AOL about a week ago about IC being at the White House - one of the White House Chefs is cooking with Bobby Flay and Batali will be paired with Emeril - Michelle Obama is going to tell what the secret ingredient is. It airs in January but I'm not sure which date. |
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cginspace |
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Posts: 9606 (11/10/09 3:01 PM) Registered user |
They had said he was leaving when Symon won, too. But it didn't happen then. Batali grosses me out. I would not want my food seasoned with that sweat. Ugh.
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Posts: 27604 (11/11/09 7:22 AM) Registered user |
Drew B wrote:I think the point of the challenge was to get five different unique tastes: Salty, bitter, sweet, umami, and sour. Even though her food was delicious, Morimoto said he tasted umami in everything. |
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