TheWizard wrote:So that's how it got to be Sydney's job!
In fact, the guys on our tribe wouldn't put sunscreen on each other
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JT4ever |
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TheWizard wrote:So that's how it got to be Sydney's job! |
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EPR2012 |
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You make some valid points. Timbira was definitely the more metro-gayfriendly tribe.
Brendan/Stephen spooning <3<3<3<3 I still cant believe that wasnt shown in the regular episode and only on the recrap. One of my all-time favorite Survivor moments. |
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SkyDreamer |
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TheWizard wrote: It seems so uncomfortable hanging around such conservative people. Were Joe and JT the typical narrow minded southerns? If so, then how did you manage to get friendly with them, and how was JT considered as a hero? You've talked about you two having work ethics, but it just doesn't seem enough to connect to people with such a different background. |
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cyclehausen |
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SUNSCREEN? OMG I CALL PRODUCER INTERFERENCE!!
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TheWizard |
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SkyDreamer wrote:Neither of them is at all narrow-minded. I just meant I can see how Spencer, going on a few hours of impressions, might worry that they would be. There also wouldn't be a good opportunity to like "come out" to everybody having made that call. |
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toomanynachos16 |
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Stephen, I just wanted to thank you for posting here....it's always nice to have a Survivor posting here and giving us another side to the story... |
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JT4ever |
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From the blog:Heh. What, and pass up a few photo opportunities? Not our Russell. |
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craig |
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Erinn was talking about the rules for idol re-hiding in her blog.
Could you clarify whetehr they'd rehide an idol if Russ played his but the other was safely in the hands of Galu? They didn't after Brendan's blindside. |
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TheWizard |
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craig wrote:I'm pretty sure they'd rehide it. My understanding is that if an idol is played, it gets put back into play. So if both Erik and Russell had played theirs, there'd be two new idols out in the game. I'm not sure if that varies season to season though. Producers have a huge amount of discretion so I never counted on anything going one way or another. |
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Oowatanite |
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TheWizard wrote:Finally ! A former player confirms what a lot of sucksters have already assumed - Survivor is fixed. "Producers have a huge amount of discretion" equals "Producers can manipulate the game, the rules, etc. anytime they want" |
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TheWizard |
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Oowatanite wrote: Hahah - nonono. I just mean, I never exactly remembered the rules about idols perfectly. So I always assumed the worst. The rulebook is freaking huge and it's not like we got to have it in the game. Producers would however clarify rules, so I often would get rules clarifications from them (do I actually own the idol, what specifically is the mechanic for drawing rocks, etc). Believe me, the producers are super paranoid about making sure that things go fairly. There's a lawyer on hand at every challenge to make sure there's no favoritism. It's just that in a game like Survivor where there are a lot of variables, they have to make calls like Jeff did with suspending tribal council when Russell S was evacuated. |
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cindidindi76 |
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If you asked during a confessional what would happen in the event of a tie vote (re: the tiebreaker), do you think they would have told you?
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 9586 (11/16/09 2:49 PM) Registered user |
TheWizard wrote: Hahah - nonono. I just mean, I never exactly remembered the rules about idols perfectly. So I always assumed the worst. The rulebook is freaking huge and it's not like we got to have it in the game. Producers would however clarify rules, so I often would get rules clarifications from them (do I actually own the idol, what specifically is the mechanic for drawing rocks, etc). Believe me, the producers are super paranoid about making sure that things go fairly. There's a lawyer on hand at every challenge to make sure there's no favoritism. It's just that in a game like Survivor where there are a lot of variables, they have to make calls like Jeff did with suspending tribal council when Russell S was evacuated. Why do the producers consider the Idol to be someone's personal property and not allowed to be stolen? The original concept seemed to me like it was akin to buried treasure, and under no one's jurisdiction. |
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zzzazzzazzz |
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Oowatanite wrote:Way to jump to conclusions... |
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TheWizard |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:Because then it would just immediately go to whoever the strongest person on the tribe was. Plus this way people have a good reason to share info about it, which allows for more interesting idol play .... whereas the alternative would be a lot of whiny conversations saying "Give it back!" |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 9594 (11/16/09 7:28 PM) Registered user |
1. The Idol is never used. 2. The Idol holder uses the Idol to save someone/Idol Holding majority consolidates power through well used fear of the Idol. 3. The Idol holder is blindsided/Eliminated through other means. If the HII is utilized like a macguffin in camp life, the paranoia over who could possibly have it goes up exponentially. Plus, always hiding it in the camps as opposed to Exile would increase dramatic tension between the two tribes. |
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Oowatanite |
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TheWizard wrote: I dunno, "huge amount of discretion" doesn't really equal "rules clarifications". "There's a lawyer on hand at every challenge". Really ? Why didn't they hire Eliza ? |
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JT4ever |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:You're looking at possible outcomes, and not at possible strategies. The strategies are what make idols worthwhile to the show because they create opportunities for strategic player interaction beyond the otherwise constant vote counting. Think about vote splitting as a strategy to be considered when dealing with an idol. Look at the hedge John and Erik devised this time because he didn't have enough votes to split against the idol. They not only tried to avoid the idol with their primary votes, but they also came up with a back up plan to direct the bounce. Erik bungled the execution of his hedge and he went home instead. Without his knowledge of the idol, and the resulting attempt to buy insurance in the event of a bounce, Erik might have had a different fate, and the editors would have had a lot less to work with. |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 9602 (11/18/09 2:11 PM) Registered user |
JT4ever wrote: That's your defense? Ultimately, the nuances involved in neutralizing the HII is sound and fury signifying little. It's all a convoluted waste of time that could be easily simplified by just getting rid of this "Personal Property" nonsense. First of all, it's really the property of the Production staff, and setting up this phony contract clause is just a means for them to more easily influence the show. Stephen just inferred how elastic the rule book must be. |
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JT4ever |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh wrote:As opposed to the heavy import of all the other sound and fury in the life-and-death struggle that is Survivor? |
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