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Kitty Pryde1 wrote:

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I picked Bob >_>

But again, it was more an "Everyone else's edit makes no sense" than anything else.

I had originally written "Kitty picked Bob" but I think you're backing Jaison(?) so I couldn't use you :-( Change your pick and you'll be editted into my suberupercoolfunfun post ;-)

astroline wrote:

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I'm not referring to who picked who -- I'm referring to the majority. And basing it off past patterns, when a lot of past patterns have been wrong? That's the problem. A lot of you guys keep basing it off the past patterns of Earl/Yul type winners and that's it. Whoever fits that edit type the most wins. Sometimes. JT and Bob were never #1 on the Contenders chart, even super obvious Parvati & Todd weren't either for large periods of time. Like I said before, Bob was unprecedented, there was no Bob before to compare him to with so many pre-merge UTR1's. Russell and Natalie could easily be unprecedented winners too, but so many of you aren't prepared for that thought process and instead of adapting for the future, you look for another Earl/Yul and pick Eliza/Marcus/Stephen.

I think you're generalizing a bit too much in your argument. I get what you're saying, but there are people who have picked the winners in seasons where the majority says otherwise, and are picking Mick. I think that kind of defeats what your saying, which is "Edgic has picked persons X, Y, and Z... if Edgic picks anyone like them again, they will be wrong because they were wrong before". The thing is every season of edgic is different, but the winner always follows certain rules. Bob may have been unprecendented but he still got a) Focus in E1 b) No INV and c) We found out at the end why he got a strategic-less edit

Even though Bob did nothing in the game, he still wasn't ignored 3 episodes in a row.

If we take a look at the logic of editing, they had loads of chances to introduce Natalie to us in the first three episodes (where she went to TC all 3 times). My concern is that they chose to completely ignore her until the 4th episode. She wasn't even given a comment in either of the first two EPs. I understand this "woman's intuition thing", but they couldn't give her a confessional there either? The scene seemed to be more on Betsy that Natalie. Later on (E4) we learn that Natalie IS using her tuition and knows that Russ is kind of slimey, but she's using him to get by. Great strategy, absolutely. That doesn't mean she wins--it just sets her up in the end-game. If Natalie won, I have to think they'd do more with her edit. There is no logic to neglect someone for so long! Especially being on Foa Foa, she was the least visible. That just seems like the editors didn't care about her (they care about the winner) and only decided to give her things when they decided to set up her story arc. Yes, she has a story! Yes, she has a theme! Yes, she's growing! Does that mean she wins? Unfortunately (because I really like this girl), it doesn't.

So, I don't think it's necessarily thinking inside the box, I think it's just weighing the pros and cons, making a decision, and hoping for the best within the length of rope Edgic allows.

The Purple Parrot wrote:

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Brett - INV (I love it).
Dave - MOR3
Monica - MOR2
Mick - UTR1 (One confessional is enough to give him a 2 from you people?)
Natalie - OTTP4 (My winner pick... or maybe I'm just projecting what I want to happen, but I'm feeling it).
Shambo - CP4
Russell - CPP5 (I hate this).
Kelly - MOR2 (Debatable 3)
Laura - CPN3 (She's going down in flames soon)
Jaison - MORP3
John - ... I got nothing... I always forget about him...

He also got a TCQ and had over 10 sentences. His VF total is 20. He's nearly a 3, which is 21 and over based on the Visibility chart. Interesting that you almost give Kelly a 3 when she had even less visibility!!

I agree that his visibility seems a lot higher on the chart than it came off across, but you have to remember that visibility is relative. If Jeff talks the entire episode and RussH gets 1 confessional, he'd be a 5 and everyone else would be a 1. It's all relative. Natalie only had that scene at the start and a TCQ, but she gets a 4 on the chart. I thought she seemed a lot more prominant last episode (where she was a 2 on the chart!) than this episode where the chart says she's a 4. Again, it's all relative, and compared to everyone else Mick qualifies for a High 2.