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WillyEx |
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Dave didn't listen to Monica's plan to divide the votes just in case Russell had the idol? I'm totally shocked Kelly was
voted off. I think if they divided, Foa Foa's four votes would overpower theirs.. not sure tho x)
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JackSparrowBauer |
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Well it wouldn't have mattered because there were 4 Foa Foa votes that they needed to work around. It can only work when you only have one or two like the
Jason/Brendan boots before.
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Burrito Taco |
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They should have just voted out J/M/N instead. Durrr.
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Shred |
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They should have voted Mick just in case, major facepalm at Galu not being good players.
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JVJrule |
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Yeah Galu blew that. Had that been some fan of the game, they would've done the Cirie-split vote in Exile Island. Or just voted for someone unexpected
altogether like Jaison haha.
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Oowatanite |
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The ONLY way vote-splitting would have worked was dumping FOUR votes on Nat and THREE votes on Russhole, and then booting Nat on the second vote. The Galus
could/should not have expected
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maadx |
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major annoyance...
so glad there is already a thread... it is totes necessary... DAVE HATE |
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shoeless rye |
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Vote splitting wouldn't have worked, however voting for Mick would have been the smarter play than going after the guy who found one idol without the clues
already and knowing there was another idol back on the camp.
The idol hiding is lame as hell. In the past they were is inconspicuous spots where you needed 3-4 clues. I mean sure you need to have landmarks as the base of the clue, but why now "Take ten paces from corner of bridge and dig"... These idols were meant to be found by Russell. This is Evil Dick level producer shenanigans. |
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JVJrule wrote: Dave is supposed to have the highest IQ of anyone from any season ever since the show began. But that didn't seem to help Galu very much. He made some suggestion about splitting votes. But that didn't seem like it would work since FF had four votes and to split their vote, Galu would need at least 10 total votes to split them into 5 votes for each of 2 diff people. Also, I don't know who made the suggestion that if Russell played the HII, then Galu should just switch their vote to some other FF (like Jaison) but that would require the HII to be played before the vote instead of after. Funny thing, I seem to remember that in previous seasons, the HII was played before the vote. But I'm probably mistaken about that. Does anyone remember for sure? |
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GoHomeAndEatYoRice |
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I would have just told everyone to vote Russell, then at the last moment change the vote, kinda like Erik's boot.
But, w/e. |
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Sicycat |
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They tried to tell him (Dave). Idiot.
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Survivor2004Freak |
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I'm more annoyed at the fact that they could've gotten rid of a potential physical threat such as Brett, or other young guy. I guess it's all
little steps in taking down the queen bitch.
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co coach |
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Everyone knows Russell's a lying sack of cheese, and no one trusts him, so why can't they just leave him twisting in the wind 3 more days and boot
someone else?
The rigging is so BBish this season I could see MB and team taking all the Galus aside for an hour convincing them to vote Russell |
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Ooga Ooga |
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Re the HII, I just found the following in Wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Survivor_(TV_series)
In Guatemala, the player with the idol was required to show the idol prior to the vote in order to become immune. The other members of the tribe were then not allowed to vote for this player. In both Panama and Cook Islands, the player with the idol was required to show the idol after the votes were read to become immune. From Fiji onwards, the player with the idol was required to show it after the votes were cast, but before they were read. This goes to show that the producers really don't do a very good job in planning their twists. It is a huge problem if the player holding the HII has to reveal that fact before the vote. The reason is the other tribe can agree to vote for Player A unless they use the HII and if they do, then they can vote for Player B. But if the HII has to be shown after the votes are cast, then that can't happen and the other tribe has to choose one person to vote out and take their chances that person does not hold the HII. The producers could have figured this out long ago if they just did some role playing and did a run-through of what would happen using the HII. My guess is that someone who is fairly high up (like MB) just figured this would be a cool new twist and no one dared to argue with him or to try and evaluate possible scenarios. They just adopted the HII twist and only figured out the problem with it later. It seems to me that for all the millions these guys make, they don't really care too much about the viewing public. So what if they introduce a new twist that has a big problem. They don't seem to really care much. |
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I don't get why they thought they needed to boot Russell now? Why not go after his alliance and get rid of it first, that just leaves him by himself with
no way to maneuver.
Cut off the legs first and the head will come tumbling down .
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11/13/09 11:52 AM.
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beauvine |
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You're all a bunch of whiny Monday-morning quarterbacks.
1) Voting out Russell made the most sense because the more time you gave him, the more likely he was to have the idol. The expectation of him not finding a second one in the time he had was pretty reasonable 2) Russell is perceived as the biggest strategic threat, so going after him makes the most sense 3) Shambo is still seen as being part of Galu (she is the leader after all, and the guys consider her the F5 goat). She was in the loop on the vote and if it DID change to someone else she would have known about it and then Old Foa Foa would've known about it and then the Idol would have been played by someone else 4) Looking for an idol at camp without any clues is perfectly reasonable. Hell, why didn't anyone find the Idol in the treemail pedestal during Tocantins? That one was practically a no-brainer Grow up. |
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Beefcake |
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Because it takes too long. Cut off the head, and the alliance dies.
If Galu takes out Russell, FF doesn't have a leader. Mick and Jaison aren't much of a threat. It's the same reason that it's better to take out Laura than Monica or Kelly. Without Laura, the other two just become floaters. It WOULD have been better to assume (or consider) Russell having the HII, but we saw that scene where Dave kind of bullied that idea into the ground. So the boot really falls on his shoulders more than anyone else's. FF was just playing the game and trying to survive. |
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waruv |
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Considering they perceive Russell as the head of the alliance, it makes the most sense for them to boot him first. Mic is believed to be a non-threat: he
hasn't won immunity, he was considered by Erik to be the laid back, take it on the chin type. It doesn't seem as if Jaison is considered a major
threat, maybe 2nd. And Natalie could still be considered a late alliance option for the girls and has showed some social competency. That leaves Russell as the
obvious schemer/villain for them. They saw what happened to them with their Russell leaving and probably assume the same would happen to FF.
They have to fear that, if they did boot a Mic or a Jaison, that still leaves Russell another week to find the Idol (hahahaha) and another week to scheme. The girls could integrate a group of three (with two social players and only one other alpha male) easier than, say, a Russell-less FF. Really, they probably should have considered a different plan, but booting Russell is a good idea. The split vote idea is incredibly dangerous unless you run against your own assumption of Idol possibility. First, you have to assume you are seven Galu strong: no changing votes (with everyone but Erik and Shambo blindsiding last week). If you can make that assumption, then you have to split it where one player ties, and one player is behind (4-3) the FF4 votes. Then you have to hope the idol isn't played, or it is played by the player with three votes. As it currently is, Shambo probably would have exploded a 4-3 vote split and not even require the Idol to be played with 5 for Kelly. |
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Ooga Ooga |
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Posted in error.
Last Edited By: Ooga Ooga
11/14/09 3:15 AM.
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