The difference between Amanda & Parvati using the idols was that it still had some strategy behind it. You needed to get sent to exile island. I don't
think its rigged, I just think constantly putting the idol around camp where someone could find it several times without a clue wastes the show. Russell
isn't a villain for other contestants, he is a villain for the viewers. He takes away some of the best aspects of survivor and clogs the screentime with
his fat ugly face.
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What is this I see? Sucksters bitching... about a strategic player?
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Posts: 335 (11/13/09 9:23 AM) |
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Posts: 14356 (11/13/09 9:25 AM) |
JVJrule wrote: Uh, Nat didn't have anything to do with what happened last night...... |
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Beefcake |
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Posts: 4674 (11/13/09 9:28 AM) Registered User |
Russell has single-handedly made this season one to the best in many years. It's not his fault that EPMB did all those ridiculous promos declaring him the
greatest "villain" in Survivor history. (And I've never understood why anyone who actually tries to win the game is declared a
"villain").
Russell has done a good job of staying flexible and adapting as the game has progressed. His original plan to "create chaos" so that no other alliances would form at Foa Foa worked. People on that team went like sheep to a slaughter -- no one ever seemed to even fight their boot. Russell can't control that Foa Foa got their asses whupped in all the immunity challenges, but he went into the merge firmly in control of 4 votes. And he's survived two TCs more than he "should" have -- he wasn't booted, he hasn't lost any allies and the opposing alliance has lost 2 people (3 if you count Shambo). So next week, the worst case scenario for Russell is a 5-5 tie at TC. Not bad for someone going into a merge with an 8-4 disadvantage. And I LOVE the Galu outrage at someone daring to play the game. WTF? Are the Foa Foan just supposed to sit back and meekly accept their boots? Are they supposed to just fucking bow down to their Galuvian overlords? Fuck you, Erik. Fuck you, Dave. And fuck you even harder, Laura. |
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Posts: 14357 (11/13/09 9:31 AM) |
Watching Laura eventually get the boot will be so satisfying! <3
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Sshaaz |
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Posts: 426 (11/13/09 9:31 AM) |
Erik won me over last night. The overconfidence came from numbers he thought he had. He was humbled. Last night, he showed respect for gameplay.
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FishNChips |
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Posts: 300 (11/13/09 9:31 AM) |
The Camp area cannot be that big a place, so Russell just went around to all the places people are allowed to go,
the paths, the tree mail, water hole etc. If you spent an hour looking for it, you could find it. |
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Beefcake |
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Posts: 4675 (11/13/09 9:32 AM) Registered User |
OrsNaz wrote: The HII has been hidden in the camp for several seasons. Russell was the first person to think to look for the HII WITHOUT waiting for any clues. He deserves credit for that. And even more credit for finding it/them. Any other player could have done the same thing, but they didn't. It's especially stupid once they know the HII is there. WTF else do they have to do all day? |
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Posts: 4243 (11/13/09 9:37 AM) Registered user |
I can see why people are believing in conspiracy theories. When the Producers carelessly place the HII in easy to find places shoves a dude down our throat all
season. Then the same dude who made a lot of shitty moves previous weeks is the benefactor it starts to remind people of all the obvious BB Rigging. Personally
I don't adhere to any of these conspicary theories it is a simply a case of shody or beneficial pregame planning depending on someones prespective.
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Posts: 1717 (11/13/09 9:48 AM) Registered User |
I think the editors are just telling the most intresting and entertaining story they can with the footage that they have. I think some poeple forget Survivor is taped... |
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Beefcake |
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Posts: 4677 (11/13/09 9:49 AM) Registered User |
I don't get this "easy to find" crap. The first HII was hidden up inside the trunk of a tree in the middle of camp, and Russell found it and got
it out in plain sight of everyone. And this second one was hidden UNDERNEATH a bridge! It wasn't just sitting out there where anyone could stumble across
it.
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leroybrown |
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Posts: 5 (11/13/09 9:55 AM) |
Veelicious wrote: This. Russel is playing every facet of the game. We can agree he's made mistakes, every Survivor does. He works around camp, her tries in every competition (even when the producers were shoving the tribal sabotage down our throats), he's always looking for an angle, and he's playing a good social game. You don't see him talking shit and rubbing it in anyone's face, even after he fucked up their plans after playing his second hii at tc. We saw Erik be a dick last week, we've seen Dave be a dick, Monica and Laura being cunts, but we haven't seen Russel be a dick openly to his tribemates' faces. At least he's playing for an endgame where he'll need people to vote for him. Halfway through the season and we still don't know who the fuck Brett is. Kelly finally got minimal facetime as she was getting her "I'm going home tonight so the producers will edit me in love". Monica's only game is to suckle from Laura's teats. Mick is Mr. Irrelevant. Jaison has all but thrown in the towel. You saw him talking about how hard Russel is playing when Russ showed the Foa Foas the idol. Why the fuck wasn't he out scavenging for the idol??? Shambo is either the most moronic player, or a fairly devious as she appears to be keeping her allegiances to Galu (ie. voting for Russ), while we know she'll flip as soon as the number are in Foa Foa's corner. Outside of Russel, Laura, Dave and possible Natalie, are the other people even playing the game or are they just scabs, waiting for the real Survivors to come off strike? |
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OrsNaz |
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Posts: 336 (11/13/09 9:59 AM) |
Beefcake wrote: Its fine if it happened once. I do give him credit. I don't give him credit for finding it a second or third time because then its just a flaw in the game. He isn't a bad player by any means, in fact, he is most likely the best of the season but the editors are ruining the best part of Survivor. If he found the idol a second time without a clue..stop putting it back, its not hard. Now the game has turned into an easter egg hunt. |
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Beefcake |
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Posts: 4680 (11/13/09 10:19 AM) Registered User |
THAT would be changing the rules, and then the charges of "rigging" would be legitimate. (Only the "rigging" would be changing the rules to
prevent Russell from winning).
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Warm Cocoa |
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Posts: 69 (11/13/09 10:41 AM) |
When has this place ever been about strategy?
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Posts: 106 (11/13/09 10:45 AM) |
Only way the game would be rigged if they tie everyone else around a tree except Russel so he is the only one looking for the idol. He is the only one looking
for it, all the other Foas are just laying in the stupid shelter like sitting ducks.
They need Jeff shouting it straight to their faces that the idol is back in the game for everyone to finally look for it. |
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Posts: 999 (11/13/09 10:48 AM) |
At the start of the season I thought Russell was just another Coach or Randy who the producers had this weird fixation for and just assumed they would be major
characters. But unlike those 2, Russell has actually delivered and proven himself worth of All Stars 2. I actually put him up there with the other villain
greats like Fairplay.
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Posts: 7104 (11/13/09 10:52 AM) |
Sshaaz wrote: I figured he was butt sore cuz his team kicked him off and then dogged him out (like dummies) to his face. He's pissed at his tribe.
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Baby VOX |
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Posts: 474 (11/13/09 10:56 AM) |
Erik can't be too mad at the Galu women but he should be furious with the Galu men.
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Posts: 414 (11/13/09 11:46 AM) |
Baby VOX wrote:Except that the Galu men had nothing to do with his boot. The Galu women plus the Foa Foa 4 had a 7-vote majority. Erik was going home no matter what the Galu men did. Wait. They could have told him in the 5 minutes or so they had before TC. But guess what? They didn't know about Erik's idol, so they saw no point in telling him. Erik only has himself to blame. But I did feel for him when he pumped his fist at the bounce. That's exactly what he had tried to do at the last TC, and Galu didn't even learn that lesson. |
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OrsNaz |
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Posts: 339 (11/13/09 11:47 AM) |
JT4ever wrote: Actually, Erik should be mad at no one but John and himself. Wasn't he spreading Monica's name around camp? Talk about loyalty, he is being a huge hypocrite. |
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- Lions, Tigers, Survivors - Oh My!
- Survivor Spoilers
- MESS Hall Tribal Council
- MESS Hall Archive
- Survivor Speculation
- Survivor 21+
- The Amazing Race
- Big Brother
- Big Brother - PAST SEASONS
- The Apprentice
- American Idol
- American Idol PAST SEASONS
- The Mole
- Lost
- Other Shows That Suck
- Off Topic
- Clubs That Suck. No, Really.
- The Dump
- Monster Island
- Purgatory
- FAQ
- In Memory, 9/11/01
