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ElisabethNelehHeidiRok wrote:

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Battlekid wrote:

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ElisabethNelehHeidiRok wrote:

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SurvivorGuy24 wrote:

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Didn't missy give us three probable Russell votes? Add Kelly's vote and he's looking pretty good.

As Riliss said, Russell's edit is too well-crafted if he's just someone we're supposed to root against who ends up losing.

Craig, all I know is that before the F3 spoiler came out there was zero Natalie support. After the F3 spoiler came out there was Natalie support all of a sudden. Coincidence? I think not.

missy doent know shit about the final votes, she doenst know what happens in the end game, she just knew pre-merge and Erik. Russell=0 votes just like SU said, you know the one that spoiled the whole damn All-Stars 2 show? People are going to vote against Russell and thats that, he isnt being edited like a hero like SurvivorGuy your trying to point out, or why would he be on the Villians tribe next season? A regular viewer, which I have many friends that are average viewers, despise Russell and dont want to see him win, hes not winning. Its going to be between Mick and Natalie, Mick got some air time pre-merge but only due to the face that he was the Tribe Leader, Natalie didnt have much of an edit in the beginning but still played a big part in the game, and has had some major winner clues post-merge. Kelly, Laura, Monica and I would say Erik are guaranteed votes for Nat. We havent seen Mick bond with really anyone so its hard to tell who will vote for him, if anyone will.

What are you so angry about. Missy spoiled the the S20 list also. She knew that entire list, and even pmd it to me. There's nothing SU knows that Missy doesn't know. SU has a source in S20, but he doesn't know shit about S19. Samoa is Missy's world, you just need to accept that. Missy is obviously talking to jury members. I agree that she doesn't know any more boots after Eric on this season, but she did know that Jaison wasnt leaving, (everyone thought he was) She did know that a big move was coming this episode. She's telling us under the game details, like Galu asking production what will happen in a 5 vs 5.

The info she has given us thus far should convince you that she is talking to people who know what they're talking about, and she says that there is a good consensious that Russel has Sham, Dave, and John as votes. She could be wrong, but she hasn't been wrong yet (mostly).

Sandra is on the villians team also, as is Parvatie. Two very popular winners, so that argument is stupid.

You can't deny that Russel is getting the loveable bad guy edit. He started out as a villian, but the editors are carefully, and gradually manurfacturing him into a hero. It's an insane edit. I have never seen this done to anyone, which is why I think he may be our winner. If it's not him, its Natalie. I though it was her, but after Thursday's ep, I'm sticking with Russel.

1. SurvivorGuy made it sound like Russell's edit is not intended to make him look cocky or like a jerk/villian of the season but yet seen as a favorite, trying to get his point across that Russell will win the game. My arguement back was that he isnt seen as a favorite by the average viewers.

2. My point about the missy/SU thing is that SU was the original person that gave the whole bootlist of Survivor 20, missy just followed suit just right after SU made the list, SU also has said that missy has information backwards in the Survivor 20 thread. Also SU posted the final 3 before missy did, yet again missy followed suit and confirmed it as though she knew the whole time, yes I understand that missy knew some of the earlier boots and im not going to discredit her for those, but it is obvious she doesn know the end game, or anything past Erik's boot. SU said that Russell doesnt recieve any votes in the end, and missy then turned around and said that he does recieve votes in the end. Now what I am saying is, why would people not believe SU who was the first to spoil Survivor 20, also was the one who spoiled the final 3 of this season, when its obvious that missy only knew pre-merge boots, I will also give missy credit for spoiling Russell in the final 3 though, but other than that she didnt know. My point was that Russell wont recieve any votes in the end.

Kelly probably meant in her interview that she regreted voting for Natalie because she though maybe she didnt do anything in the game, but now after seeing stuff she def. had some game in her.

Yes, but you have it all wrong. Missy already pm'd me the list before SU gave his public bootlist. SHe already told me who the final 3 in S20 were. I still have the email. You really havn't been paying attention, because if you were, you would have known that Missy publicly pub posted the final 3 first, I'll let someone else find the proof. SHe hinted at Parvati and Russel in the final 3, and SU said that she was wrong. Just because SU knows about S 20, doesn't mean he knows shit about 19, which he doesn't. His source from 20 probably wasn't on 19. Missy's clearly was, and she said she's been speaking to more than one person in the jury.

Now let's make a list of eveything Missy has spoiled to us for this season, weeks, even months before the episodes aired.

. Betsy's boot
. Yasmins boot
. Ashleys boot
. Liz's boot
Erics boot
. Russel getting injured,
.Shambo flips and much more, as you know.

As far as the final 3 for S19, Missy already told us Russel was in the final 3. The only thing SU told us about S19 that we didn't already know for sure, was that Natalie was in the final 3, but most of us on here already guessed that before he said it, because Missy hinted to it. SU then posted Russel's name which Missy already did so it didn't matter. Then he said he would post the third name, which he never did, so Missy went ahead and told us it was Mick; so stop with your bullshit.

So as of right now, the only thing SU has told us about S19 was that Natalie is in the final 3, which Missy basically already told us through subtext. Everyone of us already figured Natalie was in the final 3, so SU could have just been guessing with the rest of us. He admitted that he knew nothing more. Everything else from Russel having a serious injury, to to who flips, to boot placement, all goes to Missy. so I choose to believe her. She's also giving us specific language that her source is telling her.

If you want to belive SU on S20 about who gets votes, be my guest, but when it comes to S19, I'd rather listen to the person who actually knows what they're talking about.

So Missy says that her source's confirmed that it's a safe bet that Russel has Dave,Sham,John.

Either you're calling her a liar, or you're saying SU knows better than her.

Every spoiler she's given us so far (and she's given us a lot) has been correct, so you can't call her a liar.

If you want to say SU knows better, than you should try making a better case for him, cause right now all he has is Natalie in the final 3, which we already guessed. Compare that to Missy's resume on S19, and it's not even a contest.

And do your homework before you just post bullshit on what SU told us before Missy, because there is always proof to back up or debunk what you said.

Well, I rewatched the last episode. Payed close attention to the introduction. I think Natalie wins again. This is confusing. I'm done . Bye.

Let me just make this clear. Then I'm done. No more flip flopping. I want Russel to win, so I'm sticking with that. I think Natalie's going to win though.