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Greinke...
rhymes with Yankee perfect LET'S GO YANKEES!!! |
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twistedzman |
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congrats Greinke.
he was the main reason I won the fb league with relative ease. |
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X Bilkis |
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me too!
also: It was not surprising that Greinke won, since his earned run average, 2.16, was the lowest in the American League since 2000. But his decisive margin of victory over Seattle's Felix Hernandez was a sign that voters overlooked his deficiency in another bedrock statistic: wins. Greinke tied for seventh in the league in victories, with 16. The lowest previous total for an A.L. starter in a nonstrike season was 18. Yet few voters penalized Greinke, who collected 25 of 28 first-place votes. Hernandez had two first-place votes, and Detroit's Justin Verlander the other. The Yankees' C. C. Sabathia finished fourth, and Toronto's Roy Halladay was fifth. All of those pitchers had more wins than Greinke, who was 16-8 for a team that tied for last in the A.L. Central. Hernandez was 19-5 with a 2.49 E.R.A. "I thought that could push him over the top, because his won/loss record was way better than mine," Greinke said. "But I'm also a follower, since Brian Bannister's on our team, of sabermetric stuff and going into details of stats about what you can control." Bannister, a right-handed starter, is known for his appreciation of modern pitching metrics, which emphasize the factors for which pitchers are essentially responsible: walks, strikeouts, home runs and hit batters. In Greinke, he found a like mind. "He's extremely bright, and he's really picked up on using all the information out there to make his game better," Bannister said by telephone. "He's always had the talent. His confidence level, which is extremely high, combined with his knowledge of the numbers behind the game now, definitely makes him one of the best pitchers in the world." Bannister said Greinke has learned to adjust his pitching based on the advanced defensive statistics. Because of the size of the outfield at Kauffman Stadium and the strength of the Royals' outfielders, relative to their infielders, it sometimes made more sense to induce fly balls. "David DeJesus had our best zone rating," Bannister said, referring to the Royals' left fielder. "So a lot of times, Zack would pitch for a fly ball at our park instead of a ground ball, just because the zone rating was better in our outfield and it was a big park." To that end, Bannister introduced Greinke to FIP, or Fielding Independent Pitching, the statistic Greinke named Tuesday as his favorite. It is a formula that measures how well a pitcher performed, regardless of his fielders. According to fangraphs.com, Greinke had the best FIP in the majors. "That's pretty much how I pitch, to try to keep my FIP as low as possible," Greinke said. :swoon |
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ColbyRulesAll |
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Twisty I give you props for finally winning the big league after coming up short 3 times, but I think the main reason you
won this year is because you finally had a great team name.
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RazorrzzEdge |
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Greinke knows what FIP is? Okay, there's a possibility that Brian Bannister told him to say that, but I'm going to go ahead and say that I love Zack
Greinke.
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codayoda1221 |
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So where are these awards announced? Just any time that day? I'm also so happy about Greinke getting it...he was good...and deserved it for sure. I never
knew there was a fbook league for the MLB?! Exciting.
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Greinke's CY is the biggest thing for Royals fans this decade.
Honestly I thought he wouldn't win, even though he was by far the best pitcher this year. 10 years ago Sbathia would have won for leading the league in wins and pitching in NY, just like Jeter would have been the MVP over Mauer. Bannister and Greinke are statheads and look at all sorts of sabermetrics. Of course the front office trots out guys like Willie Bloomquist based on "knowing how to play the game the right way" The Royals are so bad that in Greinke's starts they were .500. With decent hitting and even mediocre defense, Zack may have been 25-3, 1.80 this year. |
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ColbyRulesAll |
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codayoda1221 wrote:When Twisty says fb he means Fantasy Baseball not facebook. |
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codayoda1221 |
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Ah...i've never gotten into that either...where would I sign up for this? I want to try it for 2010.
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twistedzman |
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ColbyRulesAll wrote: I've been in 4 ot fb leagues and made it to the champ/ship round in every one. let me know when you even sniff the finals. oh and I can see why someone who names their team "Chicago Rulers" would be an authority on great team names. what's this I hear about the Nats being interested in signing Lackey? Dire just did a backflip. |
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dennydoylelives |
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twistedzman wrote: When did he blow out his arm? |
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BobbyBrown06 |
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I like the Nats too now! (Though Dire won't believe it...)
If the Yanks don't sign him I'd love it if the Nats could get in the mix. They offered Tex a big contract last year...so at least Kasten is willing to spend money. |
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my favorite part of that greinke article is the implicit condemnation of the royals awful infield defense
"David DeJesus had our best zone rating," Bannister said, referring to the Royals' left fielder. "So a lot of times, Zack would pitch for a fly ball at our park instead of a ground ball, just because the zone rating was better in our outfield and it was a big park." |
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Managers with five playoff appearances since 1983 and no Manager of the Year awards
Mike Hargrove (5 division titles, 2 pennants) Terry Francona (1 division title, 2 world championships) Ron Gardenhire (5 division titles) |
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X Bilkis |
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i think francona might be legit the best manager in the league so it's pretty unfortunate that he doesn't have one
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Top ten active MotY team droughts
Mets (never) Brewers (never) Blue Jays (Cox, 1985) Dodgers (Lasorda, 1988) Twins (Kelly, 1991) Pirates (Leyland, 1992) Athletics (LaRussa, 1992) Expos (Alou, 1994) Padres (Bochy, 1996) Orioles (Johnson, 1997) Jim Tracy's win was the first for the Rockies since 1995. |
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BobbyBrown06 wrote:No the fuck you are not a Nats fan. If you watched any of their games, you would've known who Chris Coghlan was. He faced the Nats a shit-ton and Bob Carpenter mentioned him a lot as a RoY candidate. I think it's nice that the Nats are interested in Lackey, but they're too fucking stupid to attempt incremental progress in order to get to contention. They're never going to sign Lackey or any elite FA until they start spending money on middle-of-the-road free agents, but that dipshit Stan Kasten won't get his head out of his ass and realize this. That's why their big pitching FA last year was Daniel Cabrera. *gag* And lol Bilkis, I noticed that too. That's a pretty damning statement from a sabermetric standpoint, really, since groundballs are generally much more desirable than flyballs. You have to have a really bad infield defense for your pitcher to pitch for flyballs. |
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RazorrzzEdge wrote:I think they set a modern record for lowest zone rating from SS and 2B. |
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twistedzman |
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I picked the Royals to win 85 gms mostly b/c I thought Greinke would have a formidable season.
Last Edited By: twistedzman
11/18/09 4:31 PM.
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MakePaulaCry |
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7400!!!
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