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bob2559		#41	[-]
Posts: 6223 (11/18/09 3:55 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In recorded human history, is there any indication that the climate has not changed for any substantial period of time?
Charming Nemesis		#42	[-]
Posts: 9197 (11/18/09 3:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	We are getting away from the fact that Al Bore thinks the Earth's core is millions of degrees. The Sun will be jealous.
Archimedes		#43	[-]
Posts: 1254 (11/18/09 3:59 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	1. Other planets seem to be going through "climate change" very similar to Earth. Mars is being hit by rapid climate change and it is happening so fast that the red planet could lose its southern ice cap, writes Jonathan Leake. Scientists from Nasa say that Mars has warmed by about 0.5C since the 1970s. This is similar to the warming experienced on Earth over approximately the same period. Since there is no known life on Mars it suggests rapid changes in planetary climates could be natural phenomena. Maybe it has something to do with that big yellow thing that is in the sky all day long. 2. Before the last ice age, during the inter-glacial period, the average temperature in the arctic was 5 C WARMER than it is right now. Two deep ice cores from central Greenland, drilled in the 1990s, have played a key role in climate reconstructions of the Northern Hemisphere, but the oldest sections of the cores were disturbed in chronology owing to ice folding near the bedrock. Here we present an undisturbed climate record from a North Greenland ice core, which extends back to 123,000 years before the present, within the last interglacial period. The oxygen isotopes in the ice imply that climate was stable during the last interglacial period, with temperatures 5 degrees C warmer than today. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15356621 Man has been recording the weather for just over a hundred years. We would be crazy to think we have it all figured out... especially the long term patterns. We are only beginning to figure out the "little ice age" that occured during the middle ages. Yes, the climate is changing. It has been for millions of years... long before the rise of man. It will continue long after we are gone.
youfist		#44	[-]
Posts: 6270 (02/10/68 2:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Archimedes wrote: 1. Other planets seem to be going through "climate change" very similar to Earth. Mars is being hit by rapid climate change and it is happening so fast that the red planet could lose its southern ice cap, writes Jonathan Leake. Scientists from Nasa say that Mars has warmed by about 0.5C since the 1970s. This is similar to the warming experienced on Earth over approximately the same period. Since there is no known life on Mars it suggests rapid changes in planetary climates could be natural phenomena. Maybe it has something to do with that big yellow thing that is in the sky all day long. 2. Before the last ice age, during the inter-glacial period, the average temperature in the arctic was 5 C WARMER than it is right now. Two deep ice cores from central Greenland, drilled in the 1990s, have played a key role in climate reconstructions of the Northern Hemisphere, but the oldest sections of the cores were disturbed in chronology owing to ice folding near the bedrock. Here we present an undisturbed climate record from a North Greenland ice core, which extends back to 123,000 years before the present, within the last interglacial period. The oxygen isotopes in the ice imply that climate was stable during the last interglacial period, with temperatures 5 degrees C warmer than today. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15356621 Man has been recording the weather for just over a hundred years. We would be crazy to think we have it all figured out... especially the long term patterns. We are only beginning to figure out the "little ice age" that occured during the middle ages. Yes, the climate is changing. It has been for millions of years... long before the rise of man. It will continue long after we are gone. Liberal lies about Global Warming is simply another way for them to CONTROL your actions through penalties, taxes and other ways that retards like Gore think that they know best... of course, douchebags like UrbanCreep will always drink from that fountain
Antithesys		#45	[-]
Posts: 25660 (11/18/09 4:19 PM) Gadabout Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Al Gore: Go green or everybody dies! (fifty years later) Us: Okay, we all drive electric cars and get all our energy from solar and wind and nuclear and geothermal and we created countless new jobs and new economies and we're not interfering in the Mideast anymore and we generally give back to the ecosystem as much as we take from it. But the ice is still melting! Re-animated head of Al Gore: Hmm. Maybe it wasn't our fault after all. Us: Grr! How dare you trick us into bettering ourselves!
zippityboomboom		#46	[-]
Posts: 9360 (11/18/09 4:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Even Anti admits that he's lying.
Aunt Pappy		#47	[-]
Posts: 21119 (11/18/09 4:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Gore is a schmuck.
Charming Nemesis		#48	[-]
Posts: 9198 (11/18/09 4:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I'd totally kick his ass... head.
pussycow		#49	[-]
Posts: 5865 (11/18/09 4:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I hear ManBearPig farts are millions of degrees too
Archimedes		#50	[-]
Posts: 1255 (11/18/09 4:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The Earth's orbit around the sun is an ellipse. But that shape is not constant. It oscillates between being more and less elliptical. CO2 levels and temperatures rise when that ellipse is more elongated and fall when it comes closer to being a perfect circle. This would have a HUGE effect on Earths climate. And those oscillations also seem to coincide with the ice ages...... hmmmmmmmm....... yup! It's all our fault! Tax us until the problem goes away!
pussycow		#51	[-]
Posts: 5866 (11/18/09 4:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Clearly all the SUVs on the planet have altered Earth's orbit! oh noes! This just in: Al Gore selling Orbit Credits
Doobie Screw		#52	[-]
Posts: 435 (11/18/09 4:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It's interesting that a lot of the posters here talking about cooling, reference data since 1998. What makes that year so important? Because there does seem to be a mild downward trend when using 1998 as a starting point, but that trend disappears (or becomes an upward trend) if you use 1997 or 1999 as the start date. Picking the hottest year on record as a starting point skews things, and makes it clear that people using this "data" are coming at the information with a preconceived agenda. There's a good article about this in the link below, but it's from the liberally biased MSM, so it doesn't really matter. Statisticians: "Global Cooling" a Myth
Charming Nemesis		#53	[-]
Posts: 9199 (11/18/09 4:42 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	How about Archie's longer time period. Or this one. And why measure just the past 100 years when the Earth was coming out of a little ice age? Of course it's getting warmer. That's like measuring from February though July and saying that temps are continuing to rise dangerously and won't stop unless we do something drastic!
Archimedes		#54	[-]
Posts: 1256 (11/18/09 4:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Hell, let's look at the US average temps for over a 100 years: Look at the slope of the warming trend in the 20's and 30's... much steeper than the more recent one. Yes... the climate changes. It always has and it always will. The Dems just want to tax us and control us using this as an excuse. And this 100 year graph is only a snapshot of the past 10,000 years since the last ice age ended. We are naive if we think we have the climate cycles figured out.
Archimedes		#55	[-]
Posts: 1257 (11/18/09 4:49 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Charming Nemesis wrote: And why measure just the past 100 years when the Earth was coming out of a little ice age? Of course it's getting warmer. That's like measuring from February though July and saying that temps are continuing to rise dangerously and won't stop unless we do something drastic! Nice analogy.
Doobie Screw		#56	[-]
Posts: 437 (11/18/09 4:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I don't really understand Archimedes chart, beyond that there is a cyclical nature to Earth temperatures over large time periods, that seems to correspond to the proximity to the Sun. I assume this is true, but so what? Categorizing people concerned about CO2's influence on temperatures, as thinking it is the only effect on temperatures, is disingenuous and obviously not true. If your contention is that there are other factors that may contribute to perceived warming, you'll get no argument from me. However, if you are saying that warming isn't occurring, and that CO2 can't have an effect, that's what I have a problem with. It's pretty clear to me that there is a positive trend in that graph you posted, so I'm not really sure what your point is.
bob2559		#57	[-]
Posts: 6224 (11/18/09 5:00 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Antithesys wrote: Al Gore: Go green or everybody dies! (fifty years later) Us: Okay, we all drive electric cars and get all our energy from solar and wind and nuclear and geothermal and we created countless new jobs and new economies and we're not interfering in the Mideast anymore and we generally give back to the ecosystem as much as we take from it. But the ice is still melting! Re-animated head of Al Gore: Hmm. Maybe it wasn't our fault after all. Us: Grr! How dare you trick us into bettering ourselves! Your hypothesis seems to be that none of these things will take place without a Chicken Little running around saying the sky is falling. These advances, if they come true, are more based on the technology available than anything else. And the technology has advanced, and will continue to advance, in these areas regardless of the aforementioned Chicken Little's warnings.
Archimedes		#58	[-]
Posts: 1258 (11/18/09 5:01 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Doobie Screw wrote: I don't really understand Archimedes chart, beyond that there is a cyclical nature to Earth temperatures over large time periods, that seems to correspond to the proximity to the Sun. I assume this is true, but so what? Categorizing people concerned about CO2's influence on temperatures, as thinking it is the only effect on temperatures, is disingenuous and obviously not true. If your contention is that there are other factors that may contribute to perceived warming, you'll get no argument from me. However, if you are saying that warming isn't occurring, and that CO2 can't have an effect, that's what I have a problem with. It's pretty clear to me that there is a positive trend in that graph you posted, so I'm not really sure what your point is. That's what I'm saying... the are many, many variables that alter our climate. When people say that it is only man made CO2 that is to blame they show their stupidity. And man is not solely responsible for changes in the CO2 levels. The chart shows that those CO2 levels were going up and down hundreds of thousands of years before the industrial revolution. Remember the big deal that was made about CFCs decades ago? It was later found out that a single volcanic eruption put many times more CFCs into the atmosphere than mankind ever did since aerosol can were invented. Last Edited By: Archimedes 11/18/09 5:04 PM. Edited 1 times.
Charming Nemesis		#59	[-]
Posts: 9201 (11/18/09 5:12 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A rise in CO2 actually lags temperatures, so CO2 rates may rise because of an increase in temperature.
WiscBadger95		#60	[-]
Posts: 15797 (11/18/09 5:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	rugslug wrote: UrbanSprawl wrote: Just because one doesn't understand that we're radically altering the composition of our atmosphere over a short period of time, and just because one doesn't understand how a more carbon-rich atmosphere will impact local and global climates, doesn't mean those present and future results are "lies." isn't the electricity that you are using to post on the internet contributing to your carbon footprint and therefore radically altering the composition of the atmosphere? Maybe you should save the planet and stop posting. Dear Urban Sprawl, Signed, Everyone Else at Survivor Sucks

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