If the parents have that strong of an objection to him standing during the pledge, then the student should be made to step out of the room during it.
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IFY0USEEKATE |
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There is a time and a place for protests. The classroom isn't one of them.
If the parents have that strong of an objection to him standing during the pledge, then the student should be made to step out of the room during it. |
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RoMa |
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B DeBrun |
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Ramona Balboa wrote: X |
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RoMa |
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Tell me exactly how doing those things to the flag makes you REALLY feel.
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token lunatic |
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Holy smoke and brimstone. I agree with Yuck on the issue.
My mother would be raising Ramona Balboa on her shoulders right about now if she were alive. |
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dottstar |
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Shagnanigans wrote:Hm, I can't recall the pledge being mandatory when I was in school (also in Mass) nor for the kids. Those who had issues due to the God part or whatever could sit quietly when it was recited at assemblies or such. I can't recall having it done in home room either after 5th grade even in Virginia when we lived a stones throw from DC. In VA there were a lot of children from other countries living in the area so I just guessed they had issues with several things in regards to the pledge. In MA @ the public school I attended for some reason the majority of us were herded over to the Catholic church for morning masses so I guess TPTB figured we got enough brain washing from doing that little excursion. Seems weird that in 2009 anyone would get called out for refusing to pledge to the flag. I know a lot of people got super patriotic after 9/11 with flag flying, chest pounding while spouting patriotic rhetoric and so forth but even so why dredge up old Vietnam era issues like this? If I'm Hindu, Atheist, or Wiccan I'm not praying to the God of Islam, Judaism or Christianity. How do they address that part of the pledge or are those folks the ones made to stand and just omit the God reference when they do the pledge? Sounds like the pledge and flag issues will continue to be dragged out similar to Roe vs. Wade. As a country it seems we just can't let things go and move on. I'm on the side of no to forced participation of pledging the flag. It hardly makes a person a terrorist if they acknowledge that the reality for many of the people in our great country that there isn't true justice. I also see the argument in relation to the "under one God" part. Those that don't share any of those faiths should have no need to feel guilt over not wanting to acknowledge another cultures God. I don't see how sitting during the time the rest of the class is standing up doing the pledge is disrespectful. I'm not going to bow to the queen or participate in any other countries patriotic displays either but I would certainly remind quiet in my own little area (and hope I don't get tossed in the local clink). |
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ag |
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Do people recite the pledge on Saturdays and Sundays or is it day off?
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squashthebeef |
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Wonder if the little fucker would stand for this pledge:
btw, anyone got an updated count on how many slave Demi Moore has freed so far? |
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Powers |
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Zero, but I hear Angelina's trying to adopt another.
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Axle the Bulldog |
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I am so glad we Canadians don't have to do this crap up here. On the other hand.... about 50% of our schools are Catholic schools and they have to say a
prayer every morning. I remember doing that and it didn't bother me at the time since I was religious back then. Now, if I have kids, they will go to a
public school so they won't be subjected to one theology as they grow up.
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Zzunk |
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"I pledge allegiance
(facist dogma -- a democratic state of free will should neither demand a pledge or allegiance) to the Flag of the United States of America, (instead of an inanimate object, why not constitution?) and to the Republic for which it stands, (more facist dogma -- how about the people that protect the ideals of the constitution?) one Nation under God, (atheists and agnostics cannot be true Americans) indivisible, (except for those that try to divide us, like politicians, school boards, private clubs, churches, etc.) with liberty (like mandating healthcare for everyone and requiring internet search engines to turn over info about what people are googling?) and justice for all.", (more accurately, it should say 'justice for those than can afford it') |
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BentMeat |
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If someone pays for your education, the least you can do is thank them.
Stupid little fag. |
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JugheadSpock |
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over the top. Of course it was, it's for gay rights. Surprised there wasn't a spotlight and a musical number. |
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jessica has spoken |
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If the parents have that strong of an objection to him standing during the pledge, then the student should be made to step out of the room during it. Yeah, cuz that would cause way less of a scene. |
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SurvivorArctic |
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Axle the Bulldog wrote:Um, what? 50% are Catholic? Not all provinces are modeled after the Albertan school system. That stat doesn't hold up across the country. And when I was in school, we had to stand and sing O Canada before first period and then stand for God Save the Queen at the end of the day (I have no idea if they still do both anthems). We finally stopped reciting the Lord's Prayer when I was in elementary school or junior high, I can't remember which :Alzheimer's |
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Powers |
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Zzunk wrote:I got a kick out of this post. There's so much stupidity, misplaced anarchy, and lack of understanding of what the Flag represents that it made me guffaw. Not a full on laugh because pity quickly took over, but a guffaw. What is beautiful about this country, and by proxy, the Flag, is that he can say these things and not fear government prosecution. |
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token lunatic |
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Or maybe he just thinks gays and others don't get fair treatment?
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