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Miles Edgeworth wrote:

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yea soz, ensuring ones safety above the group is first and foremost in any game. he may be on the wrong side of the vote now but as monica made glaringly obvious, he never was on the right side with his galus. So what would be the point in voting with him when he knows he would be dumped at their next possible convenience?

JT4ever wrote:

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Well, Kelly mentioned in her joannandstacy interview that when they got back to camp after the Erik boot, the Galu women found out (I'm guessing from Brett or possibly Dave) about John's part in the plot to line up Monica for a possible idol bounce at the merge.

This explains why Monica was perfectly happy to shop his name to Foa Foa (ironically in an attempt to do the the exact same thing Erik had done with her name in the merge episode).

So when John caught wind of the plan, his reaction wasn't all that different from Monica's when she found out Erik was playing with HER game life. Only, Laura paid the price instead of Monica.

It's also worth mentioning that the power odds were also against Laura's side of the tie once Mick won immunity. Had things gone to random draw, there were 3 people against Laura at risk (Jaison, Shambo, Russell) and 4 people for Laura at risk (John, Dave, Monica, Brett). So in addition to the 1 in 7 chance of going home, John was looking at longer odds for his group to emerge with the upper hand.

All this really to show some sympathy for John's decision. At the end of the day, though, I agree with your conclusion. As bad as his position was, John should have rolled the dice. At least then, he would have had a chance of getting a numbers advantage on Foa Foa. As it was though, he exchanged a bad position for an arguably worse position.

River50 wrote:

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I think we have to take into consideration that basically, at *every* post merge TC, the Foa Four have emphasized that they still have hope and that they are still waiting for someone from the other side to realize that this is now an *individual* game - so should any Gaulu member approach the Foa Four, they are all ears as well as 4 solid votes. Whether it's true or not, it's excellent game play at TC. John may have erroneously thought this past TC that once the Foa Four are in the majority, that sentiment still applies (especially given past conversations between himself and Russell where Russell was basically flattering him to bring him on board when the merge was new). Thing is, Foa Four has manipulated tribal council emotions and voting, and I just love it. Actually, even Mick had his part in that effort during TC this last vote. Take another look at the conversation that took place during the last TC. His comments were aimed at John for sure.

I really think that people just don't realize how important the TC arguments really become in this game. It's the chance to persuade and to present a conflicting viewpoint that challenges pre-existing assumptions. The Foa Four have had a consistently very subtle influence on how people play based on how they have presented themselves during TC, in my humble opinion.

By the way Stephen, I loved your latest interview with Laura (forget the site). I love self-deprecating humor - adorable.

Edit: I found it. The Dalton Ross recap. But Laura doesn't fool me - it matters not what anyone says during the final speech, she will vote for who she thinks is "a good person" first and foremost. If Russel is in the final 2 or 3 or whatever it turns out to be, and she votes for him to win (and I think at this point, he is the obvious choice), I will eat my words.

I thought this about Tocantins jury members too - which is exactly why I am wary that you could have won against any potential finalist (to my chagrin).

SuperJude wrote:

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Why does every blogger feel the need to hand out stupid awards? Fishfuck is awarding Fishies? Forealz?



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