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RazorrzzEdge

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(11/22/09 9:16 AM)

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Trixie Delight wrote:

The monetary policy is controlled by the US Federal Reserve. You can find a zillion links yourself. It also isn't hard to figure out that our exruciatingly high debt and the fact we keep printing money devalues the dollar. What happens when our monetary standard gets devalued? Inflation.

Something none of our leaders - Dims and Repubes alike - have figured out.

Yet people keep having this back-and-forth in this thread over which side is less fucktarded.

BlueJammies

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(11/22/09 9:34 AM)

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From the Dave Broder column:

Perhaps the biggest of those maneuvers was Reid's decision to postpone the start of subsidies to help the uninsured buy policies from mid-2013 to January 2014 -- long after taxes and fees levied by the bill would have begun.

So in other words, we will immediately have all kinds of new taxes and we will be paying them for four years before before a single benefit begins.

springfeverish

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(11/22/09 9:37 AM)

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Trixie Delight wrote:

Of course he's tanking. Even Hillary could man up more than him.

So what the pictures are saying is that Reagan took a chainsaw to the middle class, Bush burned our surplus like so much underbrush and Obama is trying to fix what is wrong?

I mean even you wouldn't fall for tired stereotypes of 'real men' doing the yardwork while the little woman takes care of the house. Or would you?

B DeBrun

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(11/22/09 10:00 AM)

This would be called a "reach"

bannedchef

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(11/22/09 10:09 AM)

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I mean even you wouldn't fall for tired stereotypes of 'real men' doing the yardwork while the little woman takes care of the house. Or would you?

We all know that Obama would never use a chainsaw or clear brush. It would RUIN his manicure.

bendnkrack

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(11/22/09 10:17 AM)

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It could be worse, he could be hanging a pink ruffled or floral.

Beefcake

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(11/22/09 11:42 AM)

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RazorrzzEdge wrote:

Trixie Delight wrote:

The monetary policy is controlled by the US Federal Reserve. You can find a zillion links yourself. It also isn't hard to figure out that our
exruciatingly high debt and the fact we keep printing money devalues the dollar. What happens when our monetary standard gets devalued? Inflation.

Something none of our leaders - Dims and Repubes alike - have figured out.

Yet people keep having this back-and-forth in this thread over which side is less fucktarded.

They know; they just don't care. They probably figure it will give them a good campaign issue in a few years: "Re-elect ME to fight inflation!!!"

Charming Nemesis

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(11/22/09 1:01 PM)

BlueJammies wrote:
From the Dave Broder column:

Perhaps the biggest of those maneuvers was Reid's decision to postpone the start of subsidies to help the uninsured buy policies from mid-2013 to January 2014 -- long after taxes and fees levied by the bill would have begun.

So in other words, we will immediately have all kinds of new taxes and we will be paying them for four years before before a single benefit begins.

Well how else could you claim it won't increase the deficit in 10 years (the maximum amount of time that the CBO can calculate) if you don't start collecting high taxes and fees 4 years before it begins and only run it for 6 years? It's natural!

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at Trixie's pic and spring's libtarded explanation.

vanillaslave

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(11/22/09 1:18 PM)

spring is married to a closeted gay?

squashthebeef

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(11/22/09 1:24 PM)

super badass

springfeverish wrote:

Trixie Delight wrote:

Of course he's tanking. Even Hillary could man up more than him.

So what the pictures are saying is that Reagan took a chainsaw to the middle class, Bush burned our surplus like so much underbrush and Obama is trying to fix what is wrong?

I mean even you wouldn't fall for tired stereotypes of 'real men' doing the yardwork while the little woman takes care of the house. Or would you?

Jesus Christ you're a tight ass.

springfeverish

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(11/22/09 1:35 PM)

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squashthebeef wrote

Jesus Christ you've a tight ass.

Pilates, dearest. You can bounce a quarter off them.

PoChop

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(11/22/09 1:38 PM)

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Who's got a quarter now? Does it work the same way with a Peso?

Beefcake

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(11/22/09 2:39 PM)

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springfeverish wrote:

squashthebeef wrote

Jesus Christ you've a tight ass.

Pilates, dearest. You can bounce a quarter off them.

Pix or it isn't true.

bob2559

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(11/22/09 2:45 PM)

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squashthebeef wrote:

springfeverish wrote:

Trixie Delight wrote:

Of course he's tanking. Even Hillary could man up more than him.

So what the pictures are saying is that Reagan took a chainsaw to the middle class, Bush burned our surplus like so much underbrush and Obama is trying to fix what is wrong?

I mean even you wouldn't fall for tired stereotypes of 'real men' doing the yardwork while the little woman takes care of the house. Or would you?

Jesus Christ you're a tight ass.

She's full of inaccurate talking points too, only the true & die hard lefties still try to say that Reagan was bad for America. And only someone totally unassociated with reality can say Bush burned through the surplus, especially since the federal government's own records show the national debt never decreased during Clinton's terms. I think most people are able to understand that if your total indebtedness goes up, then you must have spent more than you earned (ergo, no surplus). Yet sping continues to cling to the illusion that there was some huge surplus that Bush "burned through".

DelosWorld

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(11/22/09 3:38 PM)

The surplus was only on paper and it's true that government debt increased under Clinton. How did they do it? They refinanced a lot of the existing debt at lower interest rates and borrowed new money at the lower interest rates. So the result was that for a few years net expenditures were less than income (from taxes). So yeah, the budget was balanced but debt was increasing. What will be most humorous to watch is what will happen in the future with the new quadrupled or pentupled debts should interest rates rise. The only way out is to allow inflation to monetize the debt or to take 99% of everyone's income in the form of a tax for many, many years.

Trixie Delight

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(11/22/09 4:03 PM)

put Angel in the corner

The only way out is to allow inflation to monetize the debt or to take 99% of everyone's income in the form of a tax for many, many years.

Exactamundo.

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(11/22/09 4:12 PM)

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I think most people are able to understand that if your total indebtedness goes up, then you must have spent more than you earned (ergo, no surplus).

merkyl doesn't.

DelosWorld

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(11/22/09 4:34 PM)

glazerboy wrote:
I think most people are able to understand that if your total indebtedness goes up, then you must have spent more than you earned (ergo, no surplus).

merkyl doesn't.

That's not correct. You can have more debt and spend less than you earned (or taxed) if you refinance your debt and get the new debt at lower interest rates. It all depends on how much debt you had and how much you saved by refinancing. In other words you spend less on old debt by paying off old debts with new cheaper money (money borrowed at lower rates).

This isn't rocket science. Spending and national debt increased every year under the Clinton administration, yet they still claimed to have a balanced budget after 8 years. Any surplus was calculated on a yearly basis, or when expenditures were less than income despite having larger budgets and national debt.

springfeverish

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(11/22/09 4:36 PM)

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bob2559 wrote:
She's full of inaccurate talking points too, only the true & die hard lefties still try to say that Reagan was bad for America. And only someone totally unassociated with reality can say Bush burned through the surplus, especially since the federal government's own records show the national debt never decreased during Clinton's terms. I think most people are able to understand that if your total indebtedness goes up, then you must have spent more than you earned (ergo, no surplus). Yet sping continues to cling to the illusion that there was some huge surplus that Bush "burned through".

Bush inherited a 236 billion dollar surplus and burned through it faster than a brushfire in the Santa Ana wind. And he did it by reversing the Clinton tax increases on the wealthiest Americans to the tune of 630 billion in his first year alone. We won't even mention the trillion dollar war in Iraq. Where were conservatives who are pearl-clutching about the cost of healthcare then?

US Budget surpluses and deficits

springfeverish

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(11/22/09 4:49 PM)

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And can you geenanuses please show me how Clinton increased the National Debt each year?

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