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Posts: 805 (11/26/09 07:31 PM) Registered user |
Lets see what we have so far
Jaison: Person insight on complaining Mick: Bad Leadership and Russells secret Natalie: Nothing so far except for the credit for Erik in the quick recap Russell: Justification for his actions |
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Posts: 2450 (11/26/09 07:35 PM) Registered user |
SFC wrote:Why didn't they show Russell saying he was just trying to make Mick trust him and then end it at that? Why give Mick that confessional at the end? Why give Mick confessionals regarding why he's being an under-the-radar passive leader? Why not just give him buttloads of Negative SPV on his leadership? The edit on the show seems to suggest that Russell is underestimating Natalie to a degree. Now we're seeing that Russell is underestimating Mick. This probably suggests that Russell isn't as smart as he thinks and that his allies aren't as stupid as he thinks. |
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Posts: 2451 (11/26/09 07:42 PM) Registered user |
No Natalie recognition for the Erik boot besides the start? Eeek! Aint looking good, Natalites!
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Posts: 806 (11/26/09 07:42 PM) Registered user |
BlakeB717 wrote: She got it at the start of the show. |
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Posts: 638 (11/26/09 07:44 PM) |
I guess when the editors were cutting Mick's scenes for scenes of Natalie killing rats for the real show, they had enough left for the recap. ;)
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Posts: 2452 (11/26/09 07:44 PM) Registered user |
SFC wrote: Reread what I said. Before quoting, please read--thank you! |
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Posts: 807 (11/26/09 07:45 PM) Registered user |
BlakeB717 wrote: I'm sorry. |
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Posts: 2453 (11/26/09 07:52 PM) Registered user |
I rest my case on Natalie.
I won't say another word about her chances anymore :) |
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Posts: 808 (11/26/09 07:53 PM) Registered user |
Yeah, this episode for her is as bad as Mick's merge episode
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Posts: 639 (11/26/09 07:55 PM) |
LMAO. That Natalie/Russell scene was another huge endgame preview. Russell's comments about Natalie being easy to beat -- hmmm.
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Posts: 649 (11/26/09 07:55 PM) |
I don't know what it means but the ending minutes focused mostly on Russell & Monica (with Natalie/Mick getting some camera time) and right before it
went to commercial it showed Mick & Jaison's intro shots. Just what I noticed.
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Posts: 289 (11/26/09 07:57 PM) Registered user |
I know the editors love the element of surprise, but given JT's win last season and Bob's out-of-nowhere win two seasons ago, I think they're
losing their touch.
Edgic principles still apply. Each contestant breaks their own guidelines, so no one is perfect. I feel like I should stick with my gut and how I thought back in episode one (just like I should have done with JT last season): who else should win "The Russell Show" but... Russell? |
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Posts: 240 (11/26/09 08:03 PM) I don't take hints
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Why are they showing the Mick stuff on a RECAP??? and no Blake don't give me you're bullshit
reasoning that it's a Russell show, if he's winning (which unfortunately WILL happen) they would have shown it on a regular show. Give me a stronger
and better argument, that's all : - )
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Posts: 10929 (11/26/09 08:04 PM) |
I really think that Shambo is gonna be in the finals. She had endgame comments, just like Susie did, and she's got a few guaranteed votes at this point. |
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Posts: 810 (11/26/09 08:08 PM) Registered user |
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: And she does have a jury connection with Laura |
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Posts: 2827 (11/26/09 08:09 PM) Registered user |
Werwanderflugen wrote: No offense, but I've said this in 3 posts so far this season. "Who else to win Survivor: Russell but Russell himself?" I've had multiple other instances in this thread where things I have said, and things other people have said, have been pretty much exactly repeated by someone else and then they get the credit for it. This recap episode was all about Russell and Shambo, surprise surprise. Just like the whole season. The only voted out people to get any confessionals or scenes involving them were Erik and Laura. Sure, Mick had some good scenes, but this is a recap and it's not an episode we officially have any guidelines for or use for anything. I already knew Mick and Natalie weren't winning before this and this recap made it abundantly clear. Mick was a crappy leader, but he has one piece of ammo to use against Russell in the end to get votes. It might get him votes, but not enough to actually beat Russell. He's a coattail rider. Same with Natalie, sure she's built some personal relationships and made a big move, but other than that, she's way too submissive and even though she's aware of Russell's uses for her, she won't get respect for it. I'd expect Natalie and Mick both to rack up jury votes in the end, but Russell will be getting the most. |
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Posts: 290 (11/26/09 08:12 PM) Registered user |
No offense, but I've said this in 3 posts so far this season. "Who else to win Survivor: Russell but Russell himself?" I've had multiple other instances in this thread where things I have said, and things other people have said, have been pretty much exactly repeated by someone else and then they get the credit for it.Hey Astro, it's fine. :) I haven't been posting much this season, so I haven't articulated what's been in my head or commented on others' posts lately. I have noticed your Russell support, however, and it has encouraged me to keep him in my top two throughout the season. (I had him as my #1 for Eps 1 & 2, then #2 until he returned to my top spot in Ep 9) |
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Posts: 349 (11/26/09 08:17 PM) |
Mick's episodes was both good and bad, it questioned his leadership but he did explain why, and this very well could be just the editors creating doubt.
Him using Russ's money as a reason in the F3 seems very likely.
Well it could have very well been some kind of winner quote, Jaison saying how he needs to win and stuff, it seems more like a redemption arc then a winner arc. Natalie didn't really show much, and Russ was very OTTN in this. I think this could be a sign of him becoming a big bad villain again now FF has the lead, especially because he hasn't lived up to biggest villain ever. This recap took away most doubts I had about Mick winning. Russ mentioned him, Nat and Shambo voting out either Jaison or Mick at the F5, and I think this is our likely final 5, and that Mick will probably win immunity. He's shown to do well in the challenges and none of the people he'd be up against there are challenge threats. Either he wins Immunity at F4 as well, or Shambo does and he snakes his way into the F3. I think him going on an immunity run at the end is most likely. Russ and Natalie are bound for F3 either way ever since episode 4. And I just want to say I don't read spoilers, so I'm not someone trying to make spoilers sound like speculation, the only one I had read was the Yasmin/Ashley/Russ S boot. |
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Posts: 2454 (11/26/09 08:21 PM) Registered user |
astroline wrote: You once again prove to everybody that you have an issue with credit. Back after the merge episode, you complained because people switched to Russell and claimed that "it wasn't fair and everyone has to stick to their pick before the merge" as if it was some set-in-stone rule that everybody had to follow. If Russell wins (which he shouldn't, based on editing patterns), you will not get any individual credit. Nobody will be praising your name, constructing a concrete statue of you, or take you very seriously in future seasons. I, for one, haven't forgotten your blunders in seasons 14, 15, 17, and 18. My point? This is Edgic. For many--especially me--it's a hobby. I love making inferences based on patterns, charts, numerical values and plots/storyline outside of the internet. Edgic encompasses many things that I love in my everyday life into one superinterest. It isn't about "fame, glory, or recognition" (I mean really, it's one thread in a forum on the internet). I value the workings of this thread (which can lead to much frustration on my part when people support out-of-boundary picks). I do not value superficial reasons for partaking in this thread (e.g. reading spoilers and then using that as a basis for contenters lists in order to get "praise"). I can't expect others to share the same passion for the thread as I do; but I will call out people who are only partaking to feel better about themselves. If you feel insecure in your abilities to predict who wins a reality show, then I highly suggest you see a therapist! xoxo |
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Posts: 5983 (11/26/09 08:28 PM) MESS member |
This season is f@#$ed up. I guess after the last two seasons of happy endings, they really wanted to make this one different. They really wanted to rehash
season 1, except for the fact that everyone in season 1 had ample editing. I guess the editors are so out of touch it's not funny.
I will have to say that it's hard to see anyone but Russell winning this season unless it is completely intentional to hide this season's winner throughout the entire show. If ANYONE but Russell (and Shambo) had a good deal of airtime then it would almost be too obvious that those two didn't win. And consequently, if the above were the case, they wouldn't have been able to portray Russell as being so "evil" if there was competition. Hard to explain, but yeah I guess it's kind of like Guatemala if he loses and like Borneo if he wins. However, in Guatemala, others got decent edits. Stephanie was the camera hog but Judd was the evil one. Meanwhile, Rafe was moderately edited, but Danni ended up winning. We are being made to think that the winner will either be Shambo or Russell and I do believe it will be either. Problem is, Shambo is not the hero-she's the sympathetic emotional one but not truly a hero due to her being so chaotic. Therefore, I truly think that Russell will unfortunately win and CBS will be ecstatic about this. Why? It will make people want to watch Survivor again and again to see if someone like Russell can be stopped in the future the way Rich-types were (for a while). What's sadder than the prospect of Russell winning is the misery of knowing that the jury will be watching this at home PISSED that they actually voted for him and there being nothing they can do about it. |
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