What's the point of 20 people casts? in Lions, Tigers, Survivors

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What's the point of 20 people casts?

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survivorisdestiny		#21	[-]
Posts: 1427 (12/01/09 12:27 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	When I was born I was so surprised I didn�t talk for a year and a half. Remove this ad I do like that they tried the F12 merge because it makes sense to merge later when there are more contestants. Plus, there won't be any more jury members (Lisi) who have to vote for people they never were on a tribe with! I don't see the point of casting ticking time bombs like Mike and Gary. Can you seriously expect an unfit 300 pound man to overcome their aversion to physical activity and survive? Just don't cast them and go with 18 people instead. That way, EPMB can still get the double TC and have someone step on a rusty nail and not be out an episode.
JLK Name		#22	[-]
Posts: 2424 (12/01/09 02:50 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	survivorisdestiny wrote: I do like that they tried the F12 merge because it makes sense to merge later when there are more contestants. Plus, there won't be any more jury members (Lisi) who have to vote for people they never were on a tribe with! I don't see the point of casting ticking time bombs like Mike and Gary. Can you seriously expect an unfit 300 pound man to overcome their aversion to physical activity and survive? Just don't cast them and go with 18 people instead. That way, EPMB can still get the double TC and have someone step on a rusty nail and not be out an episode. They merged at 12 just to save Russell H Didn't you notice that reward challenges in Ep9 and Ep8 are team challenges because those were supposed to be a tribal challenge but the producers wants to save Russell H so they merge early.
chaddie		#23	[-]
Posts: 153 (12/01/09 04:11 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JLK Name wrote: survivorisdestiny wrote: I do like that they tried the F12 merge because it makes sense to merge later when there are more contestants. Plus, there won't be any more jury members (Lisi) who have to vote for people they never were on a tribe with! I don't see the point of casting ticking time bombs like Mike and Gary. Can you seriously expect an unfit 300 pound man to overcome their aversion to physical activity and survive? Just don't cast them and go with 18 people instead. That way, EPMB can still get the double TC and have someone step on a rusty nail and not be out an episode. They merged at 12 just to save Russell H Didn't you notice that reward challenges in Ep9 and Ep8 are team challenges because those were supposed to be a tribal challenge but the producers wants to save Russell H so they merge early. and it's F/cking working
JPOz		#24	[-]
Posts: 105 (12/01/09 10:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JLK Name wrote: survivorisdestiny wrote: I do like that they tried the F12 merge because it makes sense to merge later when there are more contestants. Plus, there won't be any more jury members (Lisi) who have to vote for people they never were on a tribe with! I don't see the point of casting ticking time bombs like Mike and Gary. Can you seriously expect an unfit 300 pound man to overcome their aversion to physical activity and survive? Just don't cast them and go with 18 people instead. That way, EPMB can still get the double TC and have someone step on a rusty nail and not be out an episode. They merged at 12 just to save Russell H Didn't you notice that reward challenges in Ep9 and Ep8 are team challenges because those were supposed to be a tribal challenge but the producers wants to save Russell H so they merge early. Did you notice the immunity challenges of Ep 8 and Ep 9 were not team challenges but individual immunities because they probably had planned on a merge at 12? Have you noticed that season one had no group reward challenges but as the series has evolved it has become common that very few reward challenges are actually individual challenges? That in some seasons the majority of reward challenges were actually group/team challenges? So it should not be surprising that they have group reward challenges when they still have a lot of people in the game. Why would the producers merge at 12 to save Russell? Russell was in no danger. He had an HII AND there was nothing to indicate the seeds would turn on him if they lost and had to go to TC. IF you mean they saved him so he wouldn't be outnumbered 8-2 if they merged at 10 or 8-1 if they "merged" at 9 I think he would have done just fine...he had an HII and both the 90210 Boys Club and 90210 Girls Club would have wanted to have him in their club to help get rid of the other club. He also had the ShamboSeedling on his side - hard to picture her as a seedling. The McSeed is correct, Russell is a savvy guy and chances are pretty good he could have created post-merge chaos regardless of the number he went into the merge with. Frankly, the Russell Show would be even more amazing if he had gone into the merge down 8-2 and managed to survive so it's against their interest to merge earlier and "save" him when a bigger story could result if they didn't "save" him.
CSCin3D		#25	[-]
Posts: 13546 (12/01/09 10:52 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A smaller cast doesn't necessarily mean a better season as the shittacularly awful China, Tocanshit and Exile Island have demonstrated. I actually don't mind big casts that much, because it makes it less likely that one alliance will dominate from the beginning and the editing is going to be shitty either way. I think 18 is probably ideal. Last Edited By: CSCin3D 12/01/09 10:55 PM. Edited 1 times.
CSCin3D		#26	[-]
Posts: 13547 (12/01/09 10:56 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	And I am the only one who doesn't really mind double boot episodes (planned ones)? I think they're kind of exciting and a fun change of pace from the normal episodes ^_^
sddorme.idolnoise		#27	[-]
Posts: 739 (12/01/09 10:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	CSCin3D wrote: And I am the only one who doesn't really mind double boot episodes (planned ones)? I think they're kind of exciting and a fun change of pace from the normal episodes ^_^ I don't mind double-boots at all. They are wayy more exciting. The only time I'd get mad is if the cast starts at 16. But I would like to see more than one challenge, but more than 1 tribal is even better.
quicksilver82		#28	[-]
Posts: 210 (12/01/09 11:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Double boot episodes are always exciting!
Thailandsurvivor		#29	[-]
Posts: 8772 (12/02/09 12:05 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	When I was born I was so surprised I didn�t talk for a year and a half. Remove this ad CSCin3D wrote: And I am the only one who doesn't really mind double boot episodes (planned ones)? I think they're kind of exciting and a fun change of pace from the normal episodes ^_^ Yes. Not only does it give the editors one less episode to develop characters, more time in that individual episode is lost as more time is spent at tribal council.
AveryC		#30	[-]
Posts: 63 (12/02/09 12:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Thailandsurvivor wrote: CSCin3D wrote: And I am the only one who doesn't really mind double boot episodes (planned ones)? I think they're kind of exciting and a fun change of pace from the normal episodes ^_^ Yes. Not only does it give the editors one less episode to develop characters, more time in that individual episode is lost as more time is spent at tribal council. That time would've been spent on another challenge anyway, so at least it allows more speaking time. Plus it prevents the pre merge section from getting dragged out.
JLK Name		#31	[-]
Posts: 2452 (12/02/09 03:19 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JPOz wrote: JLK Name wrote: survivorisdestiny wrote: I do like that they tried the F12 merge because it makes sense to merge later when there are more contestants. Plus, there won't be any more jury members (Lisi) who have to vote for people they never were on a tribe with! I don't see the point of casting ticking time bombs like Mike and Gary. Can you seriously expect an unfit 300 pound man to overcome their aversion to physical activity and survive? Just don't cast them and go with 18 people instead. That way, EPMB can still get the double TC and have someone step on a rusty nail and not be out an episode. They merged at 12 just to save Russell H Didn't you notice that reward challenges in Ep9 and Ep8 are team challenges because those were supposed to be a tribal challenge but the producers wants to save Russell H so they merge early. Did you notice the immunity challenges of Ep 8 and Ep 9 were not team challenges but individual immunities because they probably had planned on a merge at 12? Have you noticed that season one had no group reward challenges but as the series has evolved it has become common that very few reward challenges are actually individual challenges? That in some seasons the majority of reward challenges were actually group/team challenges? So it should not be surprising that they have group reward challenges when they still have a lot of people in the game. Why would the producers merge at 12 to save Russell? Russell was in no danger. He had an HII AND there was nothing to indicate the seeds would turn on him if they lost and had to go to TC. IF you mean they saved him so he wouldn't be outnumbered 8-2 if they merged at 10 or 8-1 if they "merged" at 9 I think he would have done just fine...he had an HII and both the 90210 Boys Club and 90210 Girls Club would have wanted to have him in their club to help get rid of the other club. He also had the ShamboSeedling on his side - hard to picture her as a seedling. The McSeed is correct, Russell is a savvy guy and chances are pretty good he could have created post-merge chaos regardless of the number he went into the merge with. Frankly, the Russell Show would be even more amazing if he had gone into the merge down 8-2 and managed to survive so it's against their interest to merge earlier and "save" him when a bigger story could result if they didn't "save" him. Blah blah blah! You think I would read your long-ass reply CSCin3D wrote: And I am the only one who doesn't really mind double boot episodes (planned ones)? I think they're kind of exciting and a fun change of pace from the normal episodes ^_^ No
Art NL		#32	[-]
Posts: 402 (12/02/09 10:08 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	CSCin3D wrote: And I am the only one who doesn't really mind double boot episodes (planned ones)? I think they're kind of exciting and a fun change of pace from the normal episodes ^_^ I don't mind it either, it means they have to focus on both tribes. If there was no double boot episode in this season, we would have known almost nothing about the dynamics in the Galu tribe.
PrettyGoodYear1988		#33	[-]
Posts: 2994 (12/02/09 12:33 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Double boot episodes are fine. They usually only take place on a single day so it's not like we miss out on that much character development. What's worse is when a planned double-boot episode doesn't happen, and we're left with a single-day, single-boot episode (Colby's exit in All-Stars and Ami's exit in Micronesia, which were unbearably dull episodes).
Maniacboy888		#34	[-]
Posts: 3146 (12/02/09 12:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Those episodes were supposed to be double boots? I never knew that
BitchOfLiving		#35	[-]
Posts: 54 (12/02/09 12:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Maniacboy888 wrote: Those episodes were supposed to be double boots? I never knew that Yup, Jenna's departure/Sue's breakdown and Jonathan's injury/Kathy's missing fingers ruined the need for double boots.
JackSparrowBauer		#36	[-]
Posts: 3305 (12/02/09 02:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	CSCin3D wrote: And I am the only one who doesn't really mind double boot episodes (planned ones)? I think they're kind of exciting and a fun change of pace from the normal episodes ^_^ I would prefer just an extra episode, but I don't mind them, particularly in 20 person casts.
tomash		#37	[-]
Posts: 1862 (12/02/09 03:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I honestly don't care that much how big the casts are, HIIs and final 3s bother me a lot more.
JPOz		#38	[-]
Posts: 116 (12/02/09 07:14 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	When I was born I was so surprised I didn�t talk for a year and a half. Remove this ad I don't mind double boot episodes per se but would rather they handle the double boots differently. For example, make a 90 min epidose which basically is 2 45 minutes shown back to back. That is, I'd rather everybody has a chance to fight for immunity before getting voted out rather than the bad bottle twist in CI and the other times when a tribe won challenge but still had to go to TC.

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