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dashbrdparadise |
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bumlets1 |
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Blueberry wrote:Yeah- so not a troll. Just because I disagree with you and you make it so easy to laugh at you, doesn't make me a troll. |
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abrahammy |
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MikiBoi wrote: Do any Idol alum have longevity? Except possibly for Carrie, it's looking really grim. |
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frautardz |
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Adam's albums are really falling down iTunes quickly. I bet both versions are out of the top 100 albums by
S8 is turning into quite the disaster. At least Kris' single is in the top 40 while Adam's are nowhere to be found. I think 19 should stop putting any$ into anyone from S8 and save it for S9. Write this one off, guys. Plus Madam has potential for serious damage to the
Idol brand.
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Will |
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How the fuck does blueberry have 3000 posts!?
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dashbrdparadise |
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He watches virtually every tv show. He's in every thread at OSTS.
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Blueberry.celebprowresting |
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abrahammy wrote: Kelly, Jordin, Carrie, Daughtry, The Davids and Kris Allen say hi :) dashbrdparadise <3333 |
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James Barber |
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abrahammy wrote:I think there are plenty of people from Idol who will have long, successful careers in music, doing what they want, and making decent money. It's Idol's own fault for relentlessly overhyping some people to the point where any accomplishment they made did not live up to expectations. Jordin, David Cook, etc. Few new artists these days have real longevity. I think Kelly, Carrie, Daughtry, will probably outlast many of them. I can see them around longer than someone like Katy Perry. |
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suckshardcore |
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I agree with James, Idol overhypes so many people as like the biggest superstar on like the planet. Reality is a lot of them are doing quite well for
themselves and are very successful but people think they're nobodies b/c Simon and co made it sound like they'd be bigger than Elvis.
Jordin and David are perfectly examples. Jordin continues to put out successful singles and remain relatively popular and does her thing and David's tour just ended and did extremely well and he's starting work on his second album. Both of their debuts have gone platinum and they've carved out a comfortable place in their own niche markets. They're making a decent living doing what they love and have fulfilled their wildest dreams and more but they aren't the biggest superstars around and people who watched AI and perhaps don't keep up with their favourites after the show might still think they haven't done anything. Idol gives certain contestants huge crosses to bear and its slightly unfair. I mean just because you win doesn't mean you have to sell a bajillion albums to be a success. I mean for me Kris' album is great and he's probably happy with it and it will do modestly well and he'll get to continue having some kind of career in the music industry but people are scoffing at him selling only 80k. Like really, 80 000 fucking people want to listen to his music, that's a lot in my books. Certain contestants get really lucky and they're the anomalies. Carrie, Kelly and Daughtry are the exceptions not the rule. Its great for them but its also slightly unfair to hold every single winner or high placer to their standards. |
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KellysMomCalledMeFine |
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Glamor Lohan |
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Idol gives certain contestants huge crosses to bear and its slightly unfair. There's nothing unfair about this. They have to hype up the show. It's a way to generate buzz for the TV show, after all. Since Idol sells this fantasy that ugly boys and girls can become glamorous superstars, each Idol has to be hyped as better than the last, just like how every season is the best one ever. When it comes to TV shows, especially the biggest show in the USA at the moment, accepting any less than that is unacceptable as that is tantamount to admitting that there is a chink in the Idol armor. However, like it or not, decay has long set in on the series, so I'd be interested to see how S9 will attempt to rewrite the failure that is S8 into something beautiful. |
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frautardz |
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S9 = no Paula, no S8 star emerging, Madam's simulated blow job, no superstar since S5= potential end to #1 show on TV.
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suckshardcore |
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There's nothing unfair about this.You don't think its at all unfair to hype up someone like they're going to be the biggest superstar in the world and then ignore them when they don't live up to your impossible burden? |
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Glamor Lohan |
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Yeah, because from a strictly business point of view, it's show business. 90% hype, maybe 5% substance. While I agree with you in principle, American Idol
sets itself up the way it is - producing the best of the best, determined by America - so any compromise will tarnish its own reputation.
But that's my issue with American Idol: it's a TV show pretending very hard to be about the recording industry, when most of the frauen it attracts hadn't bought or listened to music since... oh, 1977 at the latest. |
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suckshardcore |
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From a business point of view yes they do a brilliant job at hyping themselves up and getting the viewers, tour goers etc and rolling in the dough. Too bad
they don't actually give a shit about the people who are on it but I suppose you get what you sign up for. By now I guess people should expect to be
treated a bit like garbage if they sign up for AI but its sad that this is what capitalism does to the world.
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Glamor Lohan |
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Even the winners aren't treated well, SHC.
But I'd wager that Kris, Adam, and the two Davids have recording contracts that were far more fair than the ones given to Kelly, Ruben, Clay, and Fantasia. The show really treated its contestants like complete and utter drones back then, and it is only recently that these drones are even allowed to contribute music they have written themselves to their debuts. Previously, everything - and every cent - goes back to Herr Overlord Simons Fuller and Cowell with only spare changes given out sparingly to the winners. |
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suckshardcore |
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Even the winners aren't treated well, SHC.Oh I know. |
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MikiBoi |
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Jordin's last c.d. has tanked miserably despite one hit single from it. Kris is talking soo bad, Allison is almost non-existent and Lambert will run out
of steam soon.
I'm willing to bet Cook doesn't reach platinum status on his second album and will go just above gold. The hype around him is dying off too and I think the album left many fans displeased cause some of his music on the album didn't have the same unique flavour that his Idol stuff did. The show is just dying off. Unless one of the Idol winners or rejects puts out a solid commerical album for their target audience and comes out with abang, they are likely to fail. The economy sucks, people are more sketchy on Idol labelled recordings after so many crap releases from many, and the market is very competitive with big names. The industry is relying on old time favs to sell records now. I think this is when they will bring X Factor US and try to revamp the buying hype again. That's all Cowshit thinks of. I think we will probably get the next big superstars from there ( a new Kelly, Carrie) etc.. |
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suckshardcore |
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Jordin's last c.d. has tanked miserably despite one hit single from it. Kris is talking soo bad, Allison is almost non-existent and Lambert will run out of steam soon.These are the kind of comments I was talking about. Kris' album has been out for a mere 3 weeks and sold 80 000 copies yet he's "tanking so badly." Standards are too high for the Idol contestants. No other new artist would be considered to be "tanking so bad" if they sold 80 k of an album. |
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8trackmind |
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David Cook's album just isn't good. Almost all the songs are interchangable power ballads, and it got boring very fast. I wasn't a big fan of him
on the show, but even so I was disappointed. He needs to have more variety on his second CD if he expects to ever do a third one.
Idol made a number of changes in season 8, almost all of them bad. They went back to the stupid old semis format, added a useless 4th judge, put in the moronic judge's save (and then used it on Matt instead of Alexis, the only person who deserved it), had people doing less singing, went wild over useless singers like Lil and Danny, picked the wrong people both for and from the Wildcard, etc. etc. Simon acted bored most of the time, Randy got even more useless as a judge, and even Ryan seemed burned out. Only Paula got better (she put away her stash) and she was fired anyway. And with so many winner's careers fizzling, they are even running out of contestants (supposedly there were only 300 people auditioning in Puerto Rico--probably untrue, but they NEVER showed a crowd waiting there, so it's possible). The show is running out of steam and desperately needs a better season this year. |
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