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JackSparrowBauer wrote:

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And Stephenie made numerous huge huge huge strategic blunders. Voting out Judd, the person she had the best chance of beating who was also 100% loyal to her and would be guaranteed to be extremely pissed off at her if she betrayed him. Voting out Cindy and Lydia before Danni, which was insanely moronic because Danni had a much better chance at beating Stephenie in the jury vote than them and because both were loyal to Stephenie and would be upset with her if she betrayed them before Danni, who was vulnerable at both of those TCs. Letting Rafe run her entire game, turning her from beloved Stephenie to ultra goat. And so on.

Quid, we've discussed this before so I don't have much to say but do you REALLY think Steph wanted Cindy gone when Steph told Cindy about Rafe's plan to get her out? Or after she was the only one cool with her car decision? Or after her voting confessional where she said that she didn't want Cindy gone at all but the other 3 were deadset on her going so there was nothing she could do? The Judd boot was a mistake, yes, and not forcing a tie with Lydia possibly could've bought her one more jury vote, but the Cindy boot was not Steph's fault at all. That was Rafe being an idiot, being paranoid, and being petty. There was nothing Steph could've done to save Cindy.

No, I don't think Stephenie wanted Cindy gone at F5. Which is why it was moronic for her to vote her out. If Stephenie had any strategic sense, she would have gone to Cindy and Lydia and told them that Rafe was on a power trip and was too obsessed about the car and that they should ignore his desires and vote out Danni 3-2. That was in all of their best interests. Cindy because she stays. Lydia because she doesn't set herself to be the next boot. And Stephenie because Cindy was a loyal ally to her and Danni was a huge threat to her. If Stephenie's as great a player as you Stephenie fans think she is, she would have pulled that off instead of being a Rafe follower.

also wtf @ SleepTight saying that Danni did a better FTC than Steph did. Steph completely blew Danni away at FTC and Danni argued for why Steph should win o_O

Stephenie completely blew Cindy's question, and with Lydia's question bashed her, making it even less likely she'd vote for her. Danni properly read that the jury was very upset and used that to her advantage. Did she do an amazing job? No. She did better than Stephenie though.

She didn't only have the potential, she performed well in almost every challenge. Watch the show, just cause her tribe lost it doesn't mean she caused them to.

She lost. Time for you to realize that.

JPOz wrote:

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I think Steph's social game was hampered by people's perception of her based on Palau; she was part Miss America, part Xena Warrior Princess, part Survivor !#%$%#@ and part All-American girl next door. They liked her, they looked up to her, they wanted her to like them and align with them. When she turned out to be something other than the fictional character they envisioned AND didn't play the way they expected and wanted her to they held it against her.

Yes, you could say that. But at the same time, Stephenie came into the game with a huge advantage because she was viewed as such a hero from Palau. No other player in Survivor history walks in the first day and before doing anything has at least half the cast adoring her and wanting to align with her. And at the end of the day, with the exception of Jamie, all those people on the jury who were her allies that she backstabbed should not have left at the tribal council that they did. If Stephenie had voted out Danni before Lydia and Cindy and anyone before Judd (he was her #1 ally and F2 goat after all), maybe those players wouldn't be adoring her as they were watching from the jury, but they would have at least been in a much better mood.