What strategies of others did you see through while playing and which ones were you surprised at when watching the show?

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CoconutPhone |
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Yeah great insight's Stephen, thanks. I love the pretend crush gambit.
What strategies of others did you see through while playing and which ones were you surprised at when watching the show? |
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JPOz |
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Thx Wizard, greatly appreciate the time, thought and thoroughness you put into responding to everyone's questions. It's great to have some gaps filled
in, so much of what happens is never shown...and I'm sure you're aware it isn't exactly safe to admit or show you don't understand something
around here! Apparently not safe to be Elmo either...but I guess that's off topic.
Yes, it's not popular around here but agree with you re Terry and Penner. Wondered re Shambo because Foa would still control #'s at this point and she is not right in a very seriously scary way but understand she is a primary dyad for Russell and he won't want to toss that away, much like you talked about in answer to SJ. Thx again. |
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TheWizard |
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SuperJude wrote:It worked out pretty well for what it's worth but it's not without its dangers; like the Gregg/ Jenn romance in Palau it makes people nervous. Coach was convinced that I was in love with Erinn and tried to tell JT that I was going to screw him over and take Erinn to the final 2. Heh. |
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TheWizard |
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CoconutPhone wrote: I thought Tyson played a very good pre-merge game. Pre-merge we all thought that Brendan was running things in Timbira with Coach set up as a frustrated opposition and Erinn on the outs. But Tyson really set himself up in the perfect position. He just got too cocky and paranoid at the merge and screwed it up by completely alienating Erinn and treating Brendan's elimination as his coronation. It's funny all the strategic guy-alpha guy-woman triads there were in my game. Tyson, Coach, Deb; me, JT, Taj; Spencer, Joe, Sydney. I know that was Todd's strategy in China. Is that something that sets itself up naturally? |
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MidnightPrince69 |
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Thoughts on Brett's strategy to get Erik to make love to him?
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CoconutPhone |
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TheWizard wrote: I don't know about naturally but it's one that works well as any of the 3 can either be the lynchpin or falsely think they're the lynchpin all without having to prove or verbalize it. |
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SkyDreamer |
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TheWizard wrote: Just when I think you can't say something new, you do. Did Erinn believe you or was is some sort of a joke between you two? |
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SuperJude |
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I'm now questioning how "pretend" the crush actually was. Maybe it's more like he had a crush on Erinn that wasn't reciprocated and now
he's dating Courtney there's now way in fuck he'd actually admit to it. Yep, it's clear to me now.
-SJ™ |
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ThrowMeGabon |
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SuperJude wrote: Looks like a struggling "freelance" pianist. |
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JPOz |
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TheWizard wrote:It's a great template, each piece provides balance for the other two but hard to say if it occurs naturally. Rare to find one group of 3 which can work well together and provide balance for each other, odds of 3 groups of 3 within a group of 18 seems very unlikely. No offense or judgements intended but don't recommend contacting John Fincher for actual odds, based on his demonstrated skills with probability. Tribal switches occurred in 13 of 19 seasons which prevented long-term triads like those seen in Tocantins. Some triads were not switched and persisted, some were split by switch but reunited; others form but not clear if it's out of dire necessity or something that would have naturally developed. Casual viewer cannot ID another season with 3 triads BUT viewer would not necessarily know Spencer/Joe/Sydney were a triad, that was not aired. Have long list looking over different seasons/different situations, didn't post for brevity sake, will if interested. |
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jgabler |
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Posts: 4554 (12/07/09 05:20 PM) Registered User |
jgabler wrote: So spill it, Stephen - was it a man or woman? |
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MonkeeSpanker |
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It was Taj, I would bet my left nut it was her - she looks like a pant shitter, maybe even the disgusting skank Sierra. She was on antibiotics and you know
they make you shit your brains out.
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Phuz1 |
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Gotta say, Wizard, whatever respect I may have lost for you as a result of your final TC performance, you've more than re-earned through your posts here at
Sucks. Not everybody would respond thoughtfully to people's posts about bodily functions.
BTW, whatever happened to you and JT being business partners? Any impending announcements? Or was he just speaking in the heat of the bro-ment? |
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Mondogecko |
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Stephen did you view Sierra as the weakest link of the Exile Alliance both physically, mentally and strategically? Also had you all gotten to the final four
who would you have targeted first out of the Exile Alliance?
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River50 |
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SuperJude wrote:Oh, I think it was pretend crush and certainly within his playbook. Remember back to the conversation after they all voted out Taj - Stephen and JT felt horrible, but Erinn was understandably elated. Erinn at that point, was the most annoying person alive, according to both Stephen and JT. If the crush were real, Stephen would not have thought of her as the most annoying person ever in that moment - in fact he would have been celebrating with her. Stephen played Erinn, but he wore his heart on his sleeve regarding both JT and Taj (IMO). |
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jgabler |
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Posts: 4557 (12/07/09 10:48 PM) Registered User |
Stephen, Courtney is definitely small enough to be considered a 'spinner'.
Have you ever tried it out with her? |
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caseydillas |
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I don't think its fair to say that Stephen 'played' Erinn. That relationship was as mutually beneficial as they come with both intending to take
the other to F2. Erinn would have lost in the end for a number of reasons -- mainly the most women-hatingest jury ever -- but Sierra aside there was no better
F2 partner for her than Stephen.
I still hate that the F3 challenge was basically a test of whose hands were bigger. Goddamn it |
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River50 |
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TheWizard wrote:I loved reading about your favorites... but common! No names for most hated except Denise? I'm guessing from reading your other posts that you are meh about Sandra (my favorite winner) because you think she won due to luck (and I disagree). Glad you love Rob C, Cirie, Todd, Yul, and to some extent at least, Penner and James (in spite of the fact that some were not very strategic). Terry might not win you fans here, but I'm way worse off because Rupert does entertain me (but in a way that on one hand, I adore his character, but on the other hand, it's really fun to make fun of him. He was just damn good tv to me). I'm sure lots of sucksters would want to string anyone up for liking Rupert, but oh well. I like him, and I refuse to be shamed for it. Speaking of jerks and bullies, I think Anthony was very seriously bullied during his season. I also think Coach was psychologically bullying to some degree, most especially toward the women. I guess I get why you and a lot of the other guys don't hate him though - if it works for you rather than against you, then I suppose it's better to cognitively justify his existence by saying he's really a nice guy in real life. Especially since he was such a moron game wise. Old boys club and all that. OMG I hate quitters too! Common, you can at least name Osten as one of the hated! |
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MonkeeSpanker |
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I find it funny how Stephen doesn't like bullies but he is going out with Courtney - possibly the biggest female bully ever, though she did bully the
biggest sack of shit who we love to hate - Manise.
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River50 |
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caseydillas wrote:I'm particularly interested in the argument that this was the most woman hating jury ever. I really think that an ideology scripted this jury's decisions - e.g. who fought in the "battles" the hardest (like a warrior or whatever). I'm not convinced that only a man could have won over the jury. In fact, I actually believe that had JT been ousted before final two, this particular jury may have tipped their hat to the woman who was left for two reasons: 1) the warrior they had in mind didn't make it to the end, and 2) the warrior they wanted to win was ousted due to the conniving evil of the dark wizard. There was just too much jury talk during final TC that suggested that they thought Stephen was the physically weak player and therefore, not a "warrior" in their minds. They would never have voted for him to win, no matter how much he deserved it. Physically strong = warrior with these people. It sucked, but it was the reality of Tocantins, thanks to the fucking douche-bag, Coach. |
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