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Yeaster |
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Wow. Brett really does seem to be playing amazingly, yet they've shown him for all of five minutes.
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shollia |
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What a delusional tool.
Well considering his answers about Russell and his gameplay... if Russ makes it to the end, then he's certainly not getting Dave's vote. And WTH is up with all of the Brett love?? Go stick a finger in the guys ass and get it over with already.. geeze |
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rbk32 |
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Posts: 575 (12/11/09 04:46 PM) Registered user |
Live Chat with the Latest Booted 'Survivor' Contestant
http://www.fancast.com/blogs/survivor/live-chat-with-the-latest-survivor-samoa-booted-castaway/ |
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robbiefan |
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Dave defending Laura<33333333
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Hippochinfat |
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Posts: 430 (12/11/09 05:01 PM) |
Mick said, "You're a tough competitor. I want to shake your hand." I knew I was going home.
Who the fuck says this? Every time I see Mick talk or read something he says to a person that isn't part of an interview it's awkward as shit. |
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burnettfollower |
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I think Dave gives himself too much credit. He's such a great player, but he got voted out. He thinks Russell doesn't have any social game, but
he's tight with the other FF, and knows how to think two steps ahead, while the others are trying to figure out what they left behind. He acts as if
Russell got lucky with finding the HII, but the others had an equal opportunity to find it, as well.
And wtf is up with Brett! Brett has a social game! Gee, when you're nice and friendly to everyone, yeah, you can call it social. But anyone can do that, especially if you go to the same church! I think Dave made two major mistakes: one is taking Erik out, and the other is taking John out. In the first case he thought Galus still had numbers. In the second, he thought it would win over Jaison. Both were wrong assumptions and now look where it got him! |
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Lexxan |
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Seems like Dave is a Natalie Vote.
BTW: Dave FOR ASS 3!!!!!!@ |
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Oowatanite |
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What do you think of Russell? Is he playing a strong game?
Depends on how you define the game. If you think it's a game of challenges, then no because he didn't win any. He went on one reward that he was on with me and Brett and Laura, but other than that I don't think he's won one. If you think it's a social game, he's alienating a lot of people. Jeff Probst has said before that it's a social game, and he's ticked off a lot of people. If it's a social game, he's not playing a very good game. So are there any definitions of the game where you would say he's playing a strong game? When it comes to finding the Hidden Immunity Idol and playing 'em, he's playing a pretty good game at that. Honestly, when it comes to playing 'em he's still only one for two. But he played one at the right time and shifted the balance of power, so... --------------------------------------
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Oowatanite |
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Yeaster wrote: Dumbass editors ! |
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Lexxan |
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Oowatanite wrote: One of many reasons why this season sucks. |
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River50 |
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Dave needs to make up his mind... all this retrospective BS during his interviews are nothing but self serving justifications on his part. I think it was his
exit interview (see blistering's clip thread) where he basically states that Russel is playing an awesome game and that he was made to play it. Now
he's back pedaling and downplaying Russel's influence (as well as anyone else's) in the game? Not that I give a shit - Russel blew it and will not
win, but still, a little bit of consistency would be nice.
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RunawayJuror |
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At least he saw it coming. After weeks of betrayals and blindsides on Survivor: Samoa, Dave Ball knew early on in last night's episode that his name was being thrown around the campfire (mostly thanks to the Shambo's vision of sending Dave home). However, "Dangerous Dave" had one more trick up his sleeve, in hopes of convincing Jaison to flip against Russell and the rest of Foa Foa. In the end, Jaison didn't flip, Shambo got her way and Dave went home, as he puts it, "like a man." Dave talked with TVGuide.com about trying to flip Jaison, who he regrets not voting off sooner and which of his competitors he think is "unstable, crazy and stupid." Don't forget to check back Monday to read our chat with last night's second eliminated player, Monica Padilla. Watch full episodes of Survivor: Samoa TVGuide.com: What were your thoughts going into tribal council?
TVGuide.com: Were you pretty worried your name was on the chopping block from the minute you didn't win immunity?
TVGuide.com: Did you have any hope Jaison would flip? John had also mentioned last week that he almost got Jaison to flip, so why was Jaison the
person who seemed most likely to switch?
Survivor's John talks about turning against Galu TVGuide.com Why do you think he decided not to flip?
TVGuide.com: Jaison has gotten a lot of flack this season for his laziness.
TVGuide.com: Did you have any hope Russell was actually going to vote Shambo out like he said he would?
TVGuide.com: Why do you think Shambo was gunning for you to leave over Brett or Monica?
TVGuide.com: Is there anything you would have done differently, looking back?
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River50 |
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Here's what Dave said about Russell during his "final words" exit interview (again, you can check the clip out yourself on the blistering CBS
clip thread).
_______________________________________ "I think we all underestimated Russell… I mean that Kelly move was brilliant… it was soooo freaking… I mean it was just… amazing!"
"Russell's got mad moves, dude. The guy is just… born to play this game. He's just absolutely… he's vicious - he's a pit-bull, man. The
guy does not let go, so... cheers, Russell, nicely done, sir... kudos."
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What he says during these interviews doesn't sound like the same guy. He's either trying to throw people off regarding who he voted for, or he was
influenced by the bitter people already on the jury as well as the information Monica brought back to them and feels the need to justify why he didn't vote
for Russell. Either way, this convinces me even further that Russell makes it to final TC.
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Matt C |
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Yeaster wrote: Allowing your tribe to cannibalize itself despite having a numbers advantage is playing great? |
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Shred |
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Matt C wrote:He did not allow it. He even tried to get Galu to not vote Erik out, that was shown in the recap. Brett is a great social player. Hello he did not even get mentioned as a target by Foa Foa till this week. Clearly they liked him. Social game in this game is the most important. |
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JaMalle |
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Brett <3 for being the best positioned Galu to win the game. He was Kelly's number one and Dave's number one and one of Laura's favorite. Brett
was basically a lock for the finale if Galu hadn't booted Erik.
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rbk32 |
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Posts: 577 (12/11/09 06:52 PM) Registered user |
Reality TV World: Since the vote to eliminate you was 7-1, I'm assuming you must have had some idea that the effort to target Shambo had proved
unsuccessful even before the votes were revealed, right?
Dave: That is correct. Reality TV World: Okay, so how did you find out? Dave: A couple different ways. [Mick Trimming] said, "Hey man, you're a strong competitor. You deserve better than a blindside. Good job, good game." He shook my hand. That was an indicator. And the fact that [Brett Clouser] had the idea, "We can vote for you and write down 'Danger Dave Ball' to drive traffic to your wesbite." I said, "Genius! Let's go down in flames!" Reality TV World: Well I guess that explains why Brett and Monica Padilla voted for you. Dave: Correct. Reality TV World: The show made it look like your decision to question how long Shambo boiled the chickens was what put you next on her hit list. Do you feel that's accurate and if so, how much further do you think you could have gone if you hadn't done that? Dave: I feel that is inaccurate. I was on her hit list way before that. Obviously, she wanted to vote me off last week. Reality TV World: Okay, but the incident with boiling the chickens happened last week. So why do you think you were on her hit list if it wasn't that? Dave: Oh we boiled the chickens two weeks ago? Alright. Fair enough. Because I represented confidence and social adeptness. That was difficult for her because she could only hate that rather than attain it. Reality TV World: Did you ever try to bury the hatchet with Shambo? Dave: Of course, you even saw me say, "Hey, Shambo, we're trying to take you to the end." Even times off-camera I'm like, "Shambo, Final 3. Seriously. I'm not kidding. It's not to late." She's like, "Yeah, it's too late." She was more interested in battling imaginary demons by knocking real people out than actually playing the game. Reality TV World: We saw [Jaison Robinson] tell Brett and Monica about Russell being a multi-millionaire at the beginning of last night's episode. Was that something they ever shared with you and, if so, did you ever consider blindsiding him? Dave: Uh... I don't recall. Reality TV World: You don't remember? Dave: Yeah, I don't recall whether that was shared with me or not. Reality TV World: Okay, did you ever consider blindsiding Russell? Was it simply that you thought him staying was your best chance of staying in the game? Dave: No. Russell is the most dangerous player in the game -- that's why I got voted out ultimately. Honestly, Russell doesn't care what Shambo wants. He's going to wherever he wants to go, especially when it's 4-to-4 -- four Foa Foa versus four Galu, and that includes Shambo. He knows Shambo's going to vote for me no matter what, so it doesn't matter what me, Brett and Monica vote for. Foa Foa's going to vote whoever they want off at any given time. I knew this and went and tried to get Jaison to flip because he bought at Survivor auction an advantage for the Immunity Challenge, which told me that he felt like he was low man on the pole. Now if he wasn't low man on the pole, than it was just a stupid move to waste all your money for an advantage on an Immunity that you don't need to win. So I figure he must be low man on the pole, so I went to him and I gave him a speech that would make virgin's lift their skirts. It was brilliant. I'm serious. But friggin' Jaison would not flip. We even threw [John Fincher] under the bus as a symbol of trust for Jaison to get him to flip, but he still wouldn't do it -- which I thought was cowardly and gutless. But who knows? Maybe he had other moves. Reality TV World: Last week's episode and this week's episode both showed Russell kind of giving you a hard time about how you didn't approach him about trying to save yourself from being voted off. Did you just feel resigned to your fate at that point or was there some other reason why you didn't really seem to do any scrambling? Dave: What was the question again? Reality TV World: Russell gave you a hard time about not approaching him to save yourself from being voted off. Did you just feel there was no way to save yourself or was there some other reason why you didn't really seem to do any scrambling? Dave: I wasn't seeking out Russell's help because he's the most dangerous player in the game and we need to get him out. I assumed that everyone else would see that and recognize that if they made it to the Final 3... I was still under the hope that Jaison would flip. Jaison didn't stand a chance against Russell at the final Tribal, and I told him that. I said, "Are you playing this game to win, or not? Because if you're playing this game to win, Russell's got to go dude. Apparently by your play at Survivor auction, he's not even taking you to Final 3. Brett and I on the other hand will take you to the Final 3 and you can believe it because we're not scared of you. We're pretty sure we can beat you. So we'll take you, we don't care. It sounds like he won't even take you. So use your brain dude. Do the smart thing, flip, we burn Russell and we waltz into the Final 3. Piece of cake." And then Jaison says, "Well, what if I want to bring Mick in?" Great! Bring him in! I know I can burn all of you guys to the ground in a fire-making challenge. Bring it on. You bet. Mick's in too. But nothing materialized because no one was playing the game. Reality TV World: A few of the other eliminated castaways we've talked to have said you made several spur-of-the-moment decisions out there, most notably with Erik Cardona's elimination. Would you agree with that assessment? Do you think you made decisions quickly without putting much thought into them? Dave: I had been considering voting for Erik for three days before we got rid of him -- since the fishing challenge. He had been in and out of our circle of trust repeatedly and his main problem is he was taking strategic cues from Fincher, who doesn't know how to play the game. Reality TV World: What about the spur-of-the-moment criticism? Do you think that's inaccurate? Dave: Well... I was thinking about burning Erik for three days. Does that sound spur of the moment? It kind of answers the question. Reality TV World: We also heard from Laura Morett that you let your emotions get the best of you sometimes. Was that something you think hurt you during the competition? Dave: Letting your emotions get the best of you to its extreme makes you Shambo. So it's never good. That's why Brett's the smartest player in the game because he never, ever let his emotions get out of control. I am more hot-headed -- so there were definitely moments that I could have responded better. I mean ignorant, ignorant things. We'd be sitting around the fire and we'd be talking about challenges or something. We were talking about the gross food eating challenge. And I was like, "That was a piece of cake." Shambo -- in an effort to sound smart -- was like, "Well you seemed to have a pretty hard time with it!" I was just like, "I was faking Shambo," kind of snide. That's one of the drawbacks of being smart is when whatever idiot decides they're going to prove that they're smarter than you are, it's just all to easy to quickly shut that down and not in a very helpful manner. So there were definitely moments when my temper got the best of me, although I will say as a whole I did a spectacular job considering who I am as a person. Seriously, you should have heard some of my radio interviews this morning. There are radio deejays from coast-to-coast who hate Danger Dave Ball now because they thought they were funny but man they came into contact with someone who really knows how to cut! Reality TV World: When we talked to John last week, he claimed that he would have been able to turn Shambo against Foa Foa and save all the remaining Galu if you guys had let him know that Russell had decided to vote him off instead of voting you off like Shambo wanted... Dave: (laughing loudly) Reality TV World: That was the reaction I was expecting. So obviously you don't believe that? Dave: Everything John says is suspect because it's based in his ego reality. Reality TV World: Before Russell played the Hidden Immunity Idol that led to [Kelly Sharbaugh's] ouster, Monica and John seemed to have been worried that he might have found it and tried to convince you to target [Natalie White] instead of him at that Tribal Council but you seemed to overrule them. Why were you so dismissive of their concerns? Dave: That's an excellent question. Like I said, there are times that are fuzzy and I'm like, "What happened? I can't really remember." So I'm sure there are a million other things that none of us saw on television, and I don't remember in detail what they are. I can see being dismissive, but the thing is he who hesitates is lost. I felt like Russell was the most dangerous player. I felt like we needed to get him out first. We won a Reward Challenge and won the clue to the Hidden Immunity Idol, but we never had a shot at the Hidden Immunity Idol because he found it before we even got back from Reward. I'm pretty sure that this is the first season where the person who won the clue actually didn't even have an opportunity to find it. On the other side of that, Laura looked for that idol in the same place in an extraordinarily similar timeframe. So go figure. Reality TV World: You've already mentioned Brett a little bit, but up until last night he's basically been non-existent this season for viewers. What's your take on Brett as a player? Dave: Best player in the game. Reality TV World: Interesting. Is it because he's keeping a low profile out there too? Dave: No, he's incredibly smart. If you remember the challenge that we did with Natalie flying around on a platform. Reality TV World: Yeah, I remember that. Dave: Yeah, it was a schoolyard pick. Laura was team captain and the very first person she picked was Brett. That's exactly who I would have picked too. Then I was like, "Ooh, Monica's going to pick me." Then I knew I wasn't going to win because Brett's on the other team. Brett and I are both great at puzzles -- he is better at the more spatial puzzle, like the fishing challenge puzzle. Honestly, I looked over at the Foa Foa board and got the answer -- I mean Foa Foa was way ahead of us on that puzzle -- and I just looked back and was like, "Oh my gosh, that's the answer." I showed the answer to Brett, and Brett was off like a shot -- bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. He owned the challenge. There were definitely several moments during that challenge that I was crucial, but on the other hand during that digital coconut challenge where we had those bars with the coconuts that were painted different colors and we had to create a number and figure it out and communicate it to Monica up on the platform, I was the one who owned that because I'm more of a digital, numbers kind of puzzle thing. So we were an extraordinary team and the guy's just so smart. And he's better at the social game then I am. He's the only one in the Final 2 or 3 who could have given me a run for my money. Everybody else I could have destroyed. Reality TV World: Last night's episode showed a lot of the other castaways talking about what they felt their jury votes would be based on. What criteria did you think was important deciding who deserved the $1 million? Dave: Who played the best game. Reality TV World: Simple as that? Dave: Simple as that. You've got to understand there are several different types of games going on and who plays the best game -- there's a social game, there's a challenge game, a camp game, a strategy game -- there's a whole bunch of different things. So you just kind of have to bring it all together and say ultimately in what order of importance am I going to put each one of these separate types of gamesmanship in, and then out of that complex formula who do I feel did the best job. Reality TV World: During your Final Words you claimed that you all "underestimated" Russell. What about Shambo? Do you think she's not getting enough credit for the way she's been playing the game? Dave: She's getting far too much credit. She's not playing the game, she's just lashing out. Reality TV World: So what about the comment that you "underestimated" Russell? Based on our conversation, it sounds like you had a pretty clear idea of the dangerous player he was. Dave: I think I was just trying to be gracious. Reality TV World: Was there anything you think you could have done during that Tribal Council to save yourself? Dave: No. Reality TV World: How were you cast for Survivor: Samoa? Was it your first time applying for the show? Dave: I was an alternate for Survivor: China. A friend of mine was working for casting and he got me an interview and I went through the interview process and they liked me and they made me an alternate for Survivor: China. Then that didn't happen and they kept me on the short list up until they found a season they felt suited Danger Dave Ball. |
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River50 |
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Reality TV World: So what about the comment that you "underestimated" Russell? Based on our conversation, it sounds like you had a pretty
clear idea of the dangerous player he was.
Dave: I think I was just trying to be gracious. What a load of crap - I trust his immediate response right after he was ousted way more than these retrospective interviews. But at least this was a good interview with somewhat better questions than the others. |
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RockLobsta |
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This is the second allegation from a Survivor that the idol was given to Russell. Are Laura and Dave the new Stacey and Dirk?
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Better Than Most |
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rbk32 wrote: Dave is all over the place with these interviews. He seems inconsistent, and way too laudatory of his own gameplaying abilities. |
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