So Who will sell more DEBUT records? Kris Allen or Adam Lambert? in American Idol Forum

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So Who will sell more DEBUT records? Kris Allen or Adam Lambert?

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suckshardcore		#1021	[-]
Posts: 22378 (12/11/09 10:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Save time... see it my way. - Said ad! Remove this ad Seaguy's and your avis are complete success!! ♥♥ It was spying your own avi a couple days ago that made me want to change mine up for the season. Before I reduce this thread to being a fantard of yours, I'll just say..... Glad you like them. I like yours with the lights. Have you heard Kris' whole CD? LLWD is one of the lesser songs on the album, Idol labels have a thing for picking shitty singles for their artists despite there actually being good tracks on the album that never get released. RCA is notorious for it, I guess Jive is following in their footsteps. A lot of the other tracks are really good, if something else was the debut single I think he could be doing a bit better.
Dictatorship		#1022	[-]
Posts: 14027 (12/11/09 10:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	yeah it seems like Idol debut singles are chosen more so the writers can get more material out there rather than for the quality of the song.
suckshardcore		#1023	[-]
Posts: 22381 (12/11/09 10:30 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	yeah it seems like Idol debut singles are chosen more so the writers can get more material out there rather than for the quality of the song. Exactly. I mean everything RCA released off David's CD was stuff other writers were involved in and David wasn't which was crap since the songs he had a hand in writing were much better. I'm 99.9% positive it was because RCA had a deal with certain writers to release their stuff. I mean the Chris Cornell song, "Light On," I'm sure he only gave that song on the condition that it was released a single and he could make some royalties off it.
8trackmind		#1024	[-]
Posts: 1402 (12/11/09 10:39 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Putting failure in perspective: 1) Adam, after 2 weeks, has sold 250,000 CDs. He is basically tied with Blake for 5th place among people who finished second on Idol. He will pass Blake. And if his CD doesn't completely stop selling, he has a decent shot at passing Kat and moving into 4th place. If his CD gets airplay and he stops pissing off non-gay audiences, he still has a chance to go gold. Yes, his sales are mediocre. But they are not horrible. 2) Kris, after 3 weeks, has sold 136,000 CDs, just over half of what Adam has sold. It is less than 20% of what Taylor Hicks' 'flop' CD sold. It is barely over 2% (!) of what Carrie Underwood's debut sold. It also also less than any 2nd place finisher sold. How many more bad numbers do you need?
suckshardcore		#1025	[-]
Posts: 22383 (12/11/09 10:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	and he stops pissing off non-gay audiences Just ask a bunch of different posters here, this tool pisses off gay audiences too. Also no one needed you to put the situation into perspective, we can do math, we're not retarded (well most of us aren't anyway).
Gawkamoley		#1026	[-]
Posts: 184 (12/12/09 12:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	suckshardcore wrote: Have you heard Kris' whole CD? LLWD is one of the lesser songs on the album, Idol labels have a thing for picking shitty singles for their artists despite there actually being good tracks on the album that never get released. RCA is notorious for it, I guess Jive is following in their footsteps. A lot of the other tracks are really good, if something else was the debut single I think he could be doing a bit better. I have the CD and agree with you. I really hoped Red Guitar would be released as a single. I think that would have gotten even more radio play and sold many more CD's.
KellysMomCalledMeFine		#1027	[-]
Posts: 4463 (12/12/09 12:28 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	suckshardcore wrote: and he stops pissing off non-gay audiences Just ask a bunch of different posters here, this tool pisses off gay audiences too. Also no one needed you to put the situation into perspective, we can do math, we're not retarded (well most of us aren't anyway). ADAM SEETHING HATE FROM THIS QUEER POSTER. And agreed, no one needed your perspective. It's already obvious news. And yes, even Adam's sales are HORRIBLE. Kris' are just more horrible.
maadx		#1028	[-]
Posts: 5889 (12/12/09 12:31 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Gawkamoley wrote: I really hoped Red Guitar would be released as a single. I think that would have gotten even more radio play and sold many more CD's. i don't get the hype of Red Guitar... maybe it's just me
KellysMomCalledMeFine		#1029	[-]
Posts: 4465 (12/12/09 12:32 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Red Guitar = 2nd best song on teh album.
maadx		#1030	[-]
Posts: 5891 (12/12/09 12:41 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Save time... see it my way. - Said ad! Remove this ad meh for me it's either Bring It Back or Alright With Me or Before We Come Undone or Can't Stay Away or Written All Over My Face
KellysMomCalledMeFine		#1031	[-]
Posts: 4469 (12/12/09 12:44 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Bring It Back is meh. Too Fray-ish for me. Before We Come Undone is the best of your list. But Let It Rain > Red Guitar > I Need To Know (should never be a single) > The Truth > Before We Come Undone > Lifetime > Alright With Me > the rest of them.
maadx		#1032	[-]
Posts: 5894 (12/12/09 12:49 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	<3 The Fray ^_^ but it reminds me of a OneRepublic song "Goodbye Apathy" which i love...
Glamor Lohan		#1033	[-]
Posts: 627 (12/12/09 12:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	He should just release a sexy photoshoot. Heck, even recreating Adam's photoshoot in Detail would be a plus.
KellysMomCalledMeFine		#1034	[-]
Posts: 4473 (12/12/09 12:53 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	GLAMOR! Need you to continue your Archie love story please :) Last Edited By: KellysMomCalledMeFine 12/12/09 01:01 AM. Edited 1 times.
KellysMomCalledMeFine		#1035	[-]
Posts: 4484 (12/12/09 01:39 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I can't help but find odd photos of this woman... they're hysterical.
frautardz		#1036	[-]
Posts: 393 (12/12/09 10:44 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	And yes, even Adam's sales are HORRIBLE. Kris' are just more horrible. True dat except Kris' single is in the 20s on iTunes while Madam's songs are in the 100s. So Kris is looking like a better bet evenually.
abrahammy		#1037	[-]
Posts: 3125 (12/13/09 12:02 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	So is it that America hates Kris and Adam, or that America has figured out that AI does not produce good original music?
bumlets1		#1038	[-]
Posts: 2262 (12/13/09 08:23 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	frautardz wrote: And yes, even Adam's sales are HORRIBLE. Kris' are just more horrible. True dat except Kris' single is in the 20s on iTunes while Madam's songs are in the 100s. So Kris is looking like a better bet evenually. Or it could be that people are hearing Adam's songs and deciding to buy the whole album instead.
glitterbabies		#1039	[-]
Posts: 26 (12/13/09 08:37 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	frautardz wrote: True dat except Kris' single is in the 20s on iTunes while Madam's songs are in the 100s. So Kris is looking like a better bet evenually. Kris' song has been on radio since September.... it should be in the top 20 by now shouldn't it? especially when you consider that he's inside the top 40 on both Pop and HAC. Adam's FYE isn't even being played on radio and it's at #93 on itunes. Adam's album is at #82 while Kris' is at #120 so like bumlets pointed out, perhaps it's that people are buying Adam's entire album v. his singles. Neither of these albums have been out a month and I just think it's a bit premature to proclaim EITHER of them a flop.
KellysMomCalledMeFine		#1040	[-]
Posts: 4520 (12/13/09 11:00 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Save time... see it my way. - Said ad! Remove this ad Compared to previous Idol standards and during the Christmas season, no doubt, it is fairly obvious that these are FLOPS.

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So Who will sell more DEBUT records? Kris Allen or Adam Lambert?