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Gj Jaison and Mick on being the most boring, most useless strategists ever

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JPOz		#41	[-]
Posts: 340 (12/11/09 11:27 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Anyone who says 'Easy as taking candy from a baby' has obviously never tried it. Remove this ad Yeaster wrote: Monica was no threat in any way. Not a jury threat and certainly not a physical threat. No disrespect but Kelly, Laura would definitely vote Monica. Brett, if he's on jury would vote Monica. Dave and possibly Erik would vote Monica. I think she had a real shot of getting a fair number of jury votes.
QualityBobby		#42	[-]
Posts: 7590 (12/11/09 11:27 AM) O.o Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeaster wrote: Monica was no threat in any way. Not a jury threat and certainly not a physical threat. Seriously? With a Galu-heavy jury she'd have at least 3 votes locked up counting Erik with a decent chance at getting the other two. I wouldn't let ANY of old Galu except Shambo near the end game. There's too many automatic votes for her. Now being no physical threat I will give you, but there is always the random-type immunity challenge that anyone can pull off.
SuperJude		#43	[-]
Posts: 15682 (12/11/09 11:28 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	QualityBobby wrote: Honestly. Anyone that advocates getting rid of Shambo doesn't understand the game. Is there anyone on the jury, or even potentially on the jury that would ever vote for her? She's the perfect f3 goat, it makes it basically a f2. Many people posting here fail to comprehend that it's all about the endgame and winning, not all about what the audience thinks watching an extremely edited version of events. I would go so far as to say Jaison and Mick are 2 sides of the same coin, pretty much and each is the other's greatest barrier in terms of winning. Shamu and Russell seem more and more like the exact people you want to be sitting next to. -SJ™
GrenadeJumper85		#44	[-]
Posts: 14811 (12/11/09 11:31 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Exactly! Jaison, Mick, and Natalie shouldn't be trying to vote out Shambo or Russell they actually should be trying to vote out each other since they are all threats to each other up against the jury.
SuperJude		#45	[-]
Posts: 15685 (12/11/09 11:34 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	That's pretty much how I see the F5 shaping up, a Mick/Jaison (and possibly Natalie) move to get rid of eachother. You never know, Shamu may be too crazy to change her vote at 4 but still...I wouldn't be worried about Russell, I'd be eying the guy next to me who everybody likes. Credit to Jaison and Mick, I didn't see them getting this far and certain didn't see discussing how one of them could possibly win. -SJ™
Yeaster		#46	[-]
Posts: 7637 (12/11/09 11:34 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	QualityBobby wrote: Yeaster wrote: Monica was no threat in any way. Not a jury threat and certainly not a physical threat. Seriously? With a Galu-heavy jury she'd have at least 3 votes locked up counting Erik with a decent chance at getting the other two. I wouldn't let ANY of old Galu except Shambo near the end game. There's too many automatic votes for her. Now being no physical threat I will give you, but there is always the random-type immunity challenge that anyone can pull off. True. I know she'd easily get L/K's votes, and prob Brett's (which is enough I guess), but I think the others will have a little more appreciation for gameplay than those three. Monica did jack shit the entire game and was a bitch to boot. I don't see the others rewarding that. I know this is an entirely different game, but just about BB11's Natalie's entire alliance was on the jury and they still gave the other girl the win. I'm expecting a bitter jury, but not anything on Gabon's level............. Credit to Jaison and Mick, I didn't see them getting this far and certain didn't see discussing how one of them could possibly win. I figured Mick would get this far, just because, I thought Jaison would have left a long time ago. I still want him [Jaison] to win over Mick, who hasn't really done a whole lot, imo. Last Edited By: Yeaster 12/11/09 11:37 AM. Edited 1 times.
QualityBobby		#47	[-]
Posts: 7592 (12/11/09 11:41 AM) O.o Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It's possible the jury could go for the gameplay appreciation (which they should, but don't always do). But I don't see any way she wouldn't get L/K's vote. I wouldn't let anyone that even had 2 votes locked up near the end. 2 in her pocket means you almost have to run the table with the rest of the jury.
JPOz		#48	[-]
Posts: 342 (12/11/09 11:50 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeaster wrote: QualityBobby wrote: Yeaster wrote: Monica was no threat in any way. Not a jury threat and certainly not a physical threat. Seriously? With a Galu-heavy jury she'd have at least 3 votes locked up counting Erik with a decent chance at getting the other two. I wouldn't let ANY of old Galu except Shambo near the end game. There's too many automatic votes for her. Now being no physical threat I will give you, but there is always the random-type immunity challenge that anyone can pull off. True. I know she'd easily get L/K's votes, and prob Brett's (which is enough I guess), but I think the others will have a little more appreciation for gameplay than those three. Monica did jack shit the entire game, and was a bitch to boot. I don't see the others rewarding that. I know this is an entirely different game, but just about BB11's Natalie's entire alliance was on the jury and they still gave the other girl the win. I'm expecting a bitter jury, but not anything on Gabon's level............. LOL, the BB11 Nat vote is a perfect parallel. BB Nat was counting on votes from friends for life Jessie and Lydia's vote, not realizing that the age lie would ultimately turn them against her. Russell has been worshipping and idolizing himself all season for being such a great liar but it's like a juggler who tosses one too many eggs in the air....some of those eggs are starting to crash on him Re Dave and Erik - Dave was very pro-Galu. If Monica or Monica/Sham are in F3 Mon gets his vote. Erik - Mon can point out he was gunning for her, she struck back. Re Bitter jury: Russell's lucky none of them lived in Florida 2004, New Orleans 2005 or Houston 2007, especially the Foans who may not remember the Katrina lies he told early in the game. If they do know the facts they may refuse to vote for him because he used the hurricanes to generate sympathy for himself when the truth is he is making a fortune off the misfortune others suffered...not sure I'd call that bitterness.
JPOz		#49	[-]
Posts: 343 (12/11/09 12:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SuperJude wrote: That's pretty much how I see the F5 shaping up, a Mick/Jaison (and possibly Natalie) move to get rid of eachother. You never know, Shamu may be too crazy to change her vote at 4 but still...I wouldn't be worried about Russell, I'd be eying the guy next to me who everybody likes. Credit to Jaison and Mick, I didn't see them getting this far and certain didn't see discussing how one of them could possibly win. -SJ™ GrenadeJumper85: Exactly! Jaison, Mick, and Natalie shouldn't be trying to vote out Shambo or Russell they actually should be trying to vote out each other since they are all threats to each other up against the jury. I see your point. But I'm saying if one of the McSeed takes action to get rid of Russell and Shambo they can set themselves apart from the other 2, demonstrate they played the great mastermind Russell - biding their time, letting his talents dig them out of hole - then struck at the right moment. E.G. if Mick uses Brett, Jaison, Nat to get rid of Shambo, then gets rid of Russell and Brett before final TC he's set himself in a strong positon before a jury willing to reward whoever takes Russell and/or Shambo out. Risk is one of those 3 is left at final 4 and wins that IC but at least the one who tries this route can argue they initiated the plan.
Maximus20		#50	[-]
Posts: 379 (12/11/09 12:04 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Anyone who says 'Easy as taking candy from a baby' has obviously never tried it. Remove this ad River50 wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: Voting out Russell would have been stupid. He's poisoned the jury now, everyone with any sense would beat him now. This. Everyone should want to be in the final with Russel at this point. Exactly! After tonighs council, I would for sure take him with me to the end. Its obvious the jury is gonna be hard on him.
The Purple Parrot		#51	[-]
Posts: 11910 (12/11/09 12:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JPOz wrote: Licorice wrote: OK, some people's privileges need to be suspended. Total agreeance. Well said. Thank you.
SuperJude		#52	[-]
Posts: 15699 (12/11/09 12:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Thank for gracing us with yet another one of your deeply thought out posts, PurpleParrot. -SJ™
Torchflame		#53	[-]
Posts: 848 (12/11/09 03:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I was hoping they would vote out Russell, but I guess Mick and Jaison just want to take him knowing that he won't be very well liked by the jury.
BortBort		#54	[-]
Posts: 1709 (12/12/09 09:18 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SuperJude wrote: QualityBobby wrote: Honestly. Anyone that advocates getting rid of Shambo doesn't understand the game. Is there anyone on the jury, or even potentially on the jury that would ever vote for her? She's the perfect f3 goat, it makes it basically a f2. Many people posting here fail to comprehend that it's all about the endgame and winning, not all about what the audience thinks watching an extremely edited version of events. -SJ™ See I think many people do comprehend that, they just get blinded by their love for their favourites and their absolute hate for Shambo. Which of course I can understand. Shambo is horrible.
JPOz		#55	[-]
Posts: 388 (12/12/09 09:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	BortBort wrote: SuperJude wrote: QualityBobby wrote: Honestly. Anyone that advocates getting rid of Shambo doesn't understand the game. Is there anyone on the jury, or even potentially on the jury that would ever vote for her? She's the perfect f3 goat, it makes it basically a f2. Many people posting here fail to comprehend that it's all about the endgame and winning, not all about what the audience thinks watching an extremely edited version of events. -SJ™ See I think many people do comprehend that, they just get blinded by their love for their favourites and their absolute hate for Shambo. Which of course I can understand. Shambo is horrible. TY, I do see the merit of dragging Shambo to F3 but I also see the Parvati Micronesia strategy...drag people who played the same as you BUT with the advantage that you made the biggest move(s), you were the leader. Removing Shambo, and Russell, means anyone who wants to vote for the person who played the best strategically is forced to choose among people who's strategic decisions were pretty tame unless you are the one who made the big move to get the two of them out.
rennyat		#56	[-]
Posts: 3271 (12/13/09 05:02 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sticking to the original topic, Mick is the most boring castaway in recent memory. I have no idea why they cast him unless he promised lots of good drugs to the producers. There can be no other reason.
Lexxan		#57	[-]
Posts: 708 (12/13/09 05:09 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Mick was drunk and rowing with his girlfriend when they cast him. nuff' said.
luckyday		#58	[-]
Posts: 21 (12/13/09 07:34 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I haven't read much of this thread but I think I know why Jaison and Mick didn't vote out Russell last episode. - If they had, and Russell had caught wind of it, he would have used his idol and voted one of THEM out. Maybe they didn't think it was worth it to take that risk.
SuperJude		#59	[-]
Posts: 15737 (12/13/09 09:09 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I said it many weeks ago but Mick is a more friendly looking version of Nick from Panama/Exile Island. Younger guy, good looking, in shape, smart but absolutely boring. At least Mick smiles a lot, that's how people at work originally remembered him, the boring guy who smiles (though that could now mean Brett too). Jaison has had huge visibility all season long. Unfortunately his whining got in the way of me really wanting to root for him. I understand his dad went through hardships that seem unfathomable to us these days, but Jaison grew up with money and went to an top notch University. Something tells me he wasn't suffering... Perhaps they haven't shown any of Mick's complaints in order to illustrate how he's kept his head in the game? Really though, threads like this crack me up, 2 guys with as good a chance at winning as anybody (and better than Shamu or Russell at this point) hardly makes them useless. Be funny to see who gets who first between the 2. -SJ™
JPOz		#60	[-]
Posts: 398 (12/13/09 12:50 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Anyone who says 'Easy as taking candy from a baby' has obviously never tried it. Remove this ad ^Agree. Also amazing how the two, and Natalie, all did absolutely nothing in this game! What's the point of making big, bold moves, like Fincher tried, if it only guarantees you won't get anywhere near the finals. As The Wizard said, sometimes it's best to do nothing; these 3 have been biding their time. No, it's not exciting but it's part of what the show is about, showing us how different people handle the same dilemmas.

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