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I know this has probably been stated, but what is the proof that Russell doesnt win? Now i personally believe that Russell lost, but are we going off solely
his comments in S20? Cause he very well could be lying, not wanting the stigma of winner on him, or maybe he truly believes he lost. I havent seen any post
game interviews, so idk what the jury has said, but is there anything concrete?
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novaya |
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JaimeCat22 wrote: HAVE YOU READ MY OTHER POSTS HERE RECENTLY?! This season is about Russell losing and his EPIC BUTTHURT so he can dovetail into S20 (which is all Samoa is being edited toward, tbh). But there has to be a REASON for Russell losing, and that was his epic GURL H8RD and that's why Natalie wins. EP1, Natalie is the "even dumber blonde" who will pull it out. FULL. CIRCLE. END. FIN. STORY CLOSED. Mick has gotten neg comments. Nat has NOT gotten them. Galu runs the jury. Both are INV/UTR coattailers; Mick just has more of an EDGIC BATTLE because of his early-season confeshes because the Producers FORCED TRIBE LEADERS UPON US. This +'d his confesh's but they still have the same damn edit otherwise. Also, if you know S20 spoilers, this should dovetail perfectly into his journey there re: women. Natalie HAS a semblance of a story to beat Russell, based on EDITING AND LOGIC (hi, edgic!). Mick. does. not. ~Fin |
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JaimeCat22 |
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novaya wrote: As far as I can tell, this supposed story consists of a one-sentence quote in the first episode, which wasn't even said by Natalie. Yeah, that's a hell of a story alright. |
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Jedijake |
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Natalie won't win-period, end of story.
If Natalie were to win, she would at least have had as much air time as Mick in order to even the playing field. She's as interesting, if not more, than Mick since she's playing more of a social game (or so we're told). If Natalie wins, it makes the entire Survivor production staff look like Grade A-Aholes for ignoring female winners who haven't played the game before (just like they did with Danni). |
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novaya |
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JaimeCat22 wrote:THIS SEASON IS ABOUT RUSSELL OMG HAVE YOU BEEN ~OBLIVIOUS~ TO EVERY PROMO FOR ANY EPPY EVER?! So either: 1. The producers just blew their fucking wad before the season even started and Russell just DOMINATES!!!!! or 2. Russell gets pwnt and InvisiNat ^_^ wins with her kawaii inoffensive edit, leading to a reunion of OMG SO SHOCKING! Mick? REALLY? Show me HOW he ties into THE RUSSELL AESOP'S FABLES and I might agree. Point is: he doesn't. Edgicians just cannot wrap their heads around this season (leading to ASS2) being about Russell promotion and are reading this like VIKING RUNES rather than in plain English or w/e. Based on the INV/UTR edit everyone in Samoa got aside from Russell/Shambo/Ben/Yasmin got, Natalie wins, and it causes RUSSELL'S STORY to come into epic butthurt circle. You CANNOT say the same thing about Mick, so don't. even. try. As far as BOB? Gabon became all about Sugar's ASCENSION and IMPLOSION. Bob and Susie basically got the SAME EDIT except Bob got some HII action and then it was "OMG SUSIE YOU ALMOST WON!" but it was still about Sugar/Randy. Gabon was about Sugar. Samoa is about Russell 100 fold and it will be the same thing: "HOW DID YOU LOSE TO NATALIE OMG?! AND MICK GOT MOAR VOTES THAN YOU, 2~!" Nat wins. |
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TAR Addict |
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novaya <33333 I agree with like, everything your saying
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Oowatanite |
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Well, then I guess you're gonna be wrong too.
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TAR Addict |
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And I will admit it. Season 19 seems to be about how Russell loses, to set up S20. I think it makes more sense for Natalie to win, but Mick winning wont be omg
so wtf is going on?
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novaya |
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Ootwat is an Erinntard. All you need to know.
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OutwitOutplay |
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I really don't think a winner can be definitively decided right now at all.
The one rule about editing that trumps all others is that the editing ALWAYS matches the winner, and his/her play. If Russell were the winner, he'd be edited just the way he has been. In fact, I think of everyone remaining, the winning edit actually best matches Russell. Never in the history of the show has the show been edited just to show one person's colossal fail simply to boost ratings. CBS doesn't just think about current ratings. While ratings are important, they also think about creating a good, finished product/story that later can be sold on iTunes and through other outlets -- down the road when no one even remembers that Samoa proceeded S20. And I HIGHLY doubt that they're building a season all around a colossal fail. If they show someone failing, they also show enough of the failure's adversary so we know whom to root for. Endless examples: Jerri and Colby (we're supposed to root for Colby); Coach and JT; Ami and Chris; Fairplay and Sandra; Katie and Tom. And right now I don't know who it is we're supposed to be rooting for? Mick? In fact, if I had to decide the winner entirely on logic, and no spoilers, I'd say the likeliest winner is Russell, followed by Mick, then Natalie. |
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MultiGeminii |
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novaya wrote:Best post on this topic in weeks. |
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jensamember36 |
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Natalie wins U_U
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ElisabethNelehHeidiRok |
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Posts: 1727 (12/16/09 11:22 PM) Registered User |
Jedijake wrote: Its obvious production doesnt like female winners at all. Tina, Vecepia and Danni have all gotten horrible edits. 2 of the other 3 female winners were from returning player seasons. Jenna is really the only female winner from a non returning season that got any real edit. I dont see why people think that Mick has a better chance at winning this thing than Natalie, the only thing that anybody really is saying that makes Mick more likely to win is that he got a confessional in the first episode in the first five minutes, but that was a duh because he was deemed team leader so they had to give him a confessional. Natalie has overall had a much better edit, they are making this to where Russell is going to loose to one of the "dumb blonde girls." Micks edit has been slightly negative with him not being a very good leader and not knowing what to do, to being completely useless in challenges and now just being cannon fodder and not making any bold moves. |
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novaya |
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omg changing the narrative ^_^
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viciousmaturity |
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I think novaya makes the most sound arguments. When Jeff Probst was asked what he thought was the key to Survivor's success, he said it was because of the
way they told the story arcs of each season. The narrative reasons why Natalie is the most likely winner were already mentioned by novaya. This is a reality
show that's trying to pass itself off as a scripted show, with all the plot devices in place.
On the other hand, Mick did have that "million dollar quote" during the last episode. But the way he ties with Russell- the most dominating character this season- hasn't really come up much till last episode. I'm still not completely writing him off, though. As beautiful as he is, his gameplay reminds me of those putrid and vapid wannabes that I encounter in the late stages of every ORG I've played, so I personally would not like to see him win. |
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DarrahColleenJerri |
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Who cares whether it's Natalie or Mick in about 4 days time the boards are gonna be swimming in "WORSt WinNEr EvA!!1111!!!1!!1" topics.
ps Please be Natalie. |
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mellamobradley |
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Shambo will be gone tonight...She will go back home to her husband, the guy named chicken who yelled "Dayumn!"...why else do you think she gazed so longingly at the poultry in the cage...Reminded her of
her man...Remember you got that here first before the reunion show shocker (and not from missyae)
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CJPeters |
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mellamobradley wrote: Dayumm, your post brought up memories of Chicken Man! |
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cindidindi76 |
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TAR Addict wrote: Well, of course there's no "proof". It's not like someone has the actual video of the final votes being cast. |
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Scuyler77 |
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ElisabethNelehHeidiRok wrote:
Its obvious production doesnt like female winners at all. Tina, Vecepia and Danni have all gotten horrible edits. 2 of the other 3 female winners were from returning player seasons. Jenna is really the only female winner from a non returning season that got any real edit. You're forgetting about Sandra. She got the best edit of any of the female winners, including Parvati and Amber. |
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