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Jakob was the top female. And if they wanted an unpolished winner, they got one who's unpolished outside of dance, as well.
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Hanson |
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You can't rock a snugly fitted glen plaid two piece anymore, no matter who you are. Because an suit like that always makes you look like Pee Wee
Herman.
I'm not saying tap dancing is boring (and if you've ever seen a clip of The Nicholas Brothers, you know it does not have to be), but the three tappers were a snoozefest. I was verrrry close to skipping over it, but I fell asleep before I could grab the remote. Putting all three on the same season was a big mistake and watered down the talent greatly. Channing still didn't look like she wanted to be there. Poor thing -- it seems like she didn't quite know what she had gotten herself into, and she was in way over her head. In many ways, that's what happened to Nathan as well. Russell is easily the worst winner on the show: 1) He was not in any of the top ten dances of the season. In fact, they had to pretend that the African Jazz piece and the Nappy Tabs hip hop with Kathryn were highlights of the season. The Nappy Tabs piece was just okay and lacked the synchronicity and precision to be considered great, and the Frog Dance was a big who cares unless, I suppose, you're a huge fan of anilingus.
In fact, they ignored a ton of much better dances to stick this into the show in order to justify Russell's victory. I mean, if they kept showing nothing but Jakob and Kathryn dances, it would look odd if Russell won out of nowhere, right? And BTW, the Legacy/Kathryn hip hop >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Russell/Kathryn hip hop. 2) He kept injuring his partners and then eventually himself. And by getting hurt in the middle of the performance show, he ended up screwing over all those dancers who were waiting to perform again. I'm not saying he did it mailiciously, but he definitely let everyone down. He seemed surprisingly spry after he won, didn't he? 3) His entire backstory is a lie. "Unpolished diamond" my ass -- he's been dancing professionally since 6 and was training at the Boston Arts Academy before going on the show. But because he's a black and specialized in a hip hop style, Nigel took the ball and ran with it, making every moment to trumpet how Russell was "untrained" and "grew on the show". Keeping these compliments exclusively to Russell ignores the fact that Kathryn pulled off Broadway and Latin styles like an expert despite not having trained in those styles and acquit herself better in hip hop than Russell did in any of his ballroom dances. But since she's a white girl, Nigel can't pretend she's from da hood. In fact, many of the dancers did better in styles outisde their specialty than Russell did, but Russell gets bonus points for being "untrained", right? Suuure. But Russell's big advantage was that he fit into Nigel's formula. The Nigel formula is a David vs Goliath storyline where the "favorite dancer" wins over the most talented dancer. In season 1, Blake was the odds on favorite to win going in, and his antics also layered a good vs evil storyline on top of the David vs Goliath story. But Blake was was so OTT bitchy he got the boot before the finals. Since then, Nigel has picked technically brilliant dancers with less than magnetic personalities to be the Goliath -- Travis, Danny, Will, Brendan, and this season it was Jakob (note that with the exception of Will, the rest are also fey, so the little girls don't develop crushes on them). The Davids always have the "growth"/"untrained" storyline -- Sabra was presented as having only been dancing a couple of years (ignoring she was a gymnast), Russell is supposedly untrained and both Twitch and Joshua were presented as "street" dancers (even though Joshua obviously had formal training and Twitch was a freaking dance teacher). In the case of Russell, Twitch, and Joshua, Nigel makes it seem like they auditioned right after a Bloods vs Crips gang fight. You know... 'cause they're black. Niiiice. Nice and racist. Sorry if I repeated points from previous posts here and there.
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*standing O* for Hanson.
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ITA with your whole post Hanson.
Nigel is a racist (and homophobic) ass, who tries way to hard to influence the show so that his "untrained" favourites win. |
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Wait...how is Nigel racist when he openly favours dancers who aren't white as well as the Jacobs and Molleeeeees of the group?
Homophobic, yes. Racist? Not so much. |
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Remington Steele |
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Hanson wrote:This is why. I also made a sarcastic reference to Pygmalion a couple of pages back. The black guy dancing the street style who needs to be taught by rich, white people is classist and racist. And if they can't find an UNTRAINED black guy dancing a street style, they'll just make one up. Notice they didn't choose whitish Legacy to play that role. |
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Hanson |
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Nigel isn't racist like he hates black people, it's that he has this attitude towards black people that is steeped in stereotypes. He always wants to
call black dancers who do hip hop "untrained" even if they obviously aren't. And treats black hip hop dancers like they're from South Central
LA. When I say Nigel is racist, I'm not claiming he's David Duke, but rather your Aunt who is well intentioned but looks at black people as stereotypes
(this is assuming your Aunt isn't black).
BTW, I like the Gorey avi SA. |
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Drew B |
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Somehow, he managed to refrain from implying that Brandon (or Will or Danny) was untrained...
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Hanson |
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Duh Drew, they're not hip hop dancers.
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Remington Steele |
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Drew, I'm assuming you're being sarcastic, since Brandon, Will, and Danny are all primarily contempo dancers and not one of those lowly, street-style
dancers.
eta: If Hanson's a white guy, I'm highly impressed.
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Hanson |
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That Mii is me.
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That sound right, what week dance was that? I am guessing group but how many people were left? I don't watch the results shows since more often than not they are overbloated fluff but try to catch the group dances on youtube the next day, this was one I missed clearly. Final 10? Final 12? etc.. |
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token lunatic |
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I get the feeling this season is the consolation for Brandon losing last year. I wanted to see Ellenore or Kat win but was really glad to see Ashleigh finish
ahead of Ryan. Russell vs Jakob isn't really fair since Jakob started out gifted and brilliant whereas Russell developed over time. Maybe they should
change the name to SYTYCGrow. I think Jakob didn't get any dances that really challenged his boundaries, but that's me...I became a fan of Ashleigh.
Legacy and Nathan kicked ass. Phillip the tapper is leaps and bounds ahead of Bianca and Peter. Ugh. And Kevin is the biggest poser ever. I miss Vitolio and
will miss the girls this season except for Mollee and Channing.
Congratz, Russell for winning and bringing "it" back to your "people." |
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Hanson |
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The Alice dance was from the top 12 results show, and, believe it or not, it was a Nappy Tabs routine that was Wade Robson pastiche and not their typical hip
hop. It was easily the best thing they did all season.
ETA: littletimmy beat me to it. Nappy Tabs twittered that they wished it was on the finale. But then again, Russell's injury would have fucked that up too.
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I thought it was top 12. Wasn't top 16 the Dave Scott African thing? There was also a Wade group routine (the museum one), which must have been top 14.
Top 10 was a Tyce Diorio mess, and top 8 was the Sonya one. |
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Drew B |
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Remington Steele wrote: Yeah, I'm being sarcastic, but more to show that Nigel's "thing" is less racially-based than a snobbery (or reverse snobbery) about classical dance vs. "street" dance. |
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So You Think You Can Dance Winner, Judges React to Season 6's Results
"It feels crazy. It feels like a dream come true," Ferguson says. "I was hoping I'd be standing here, but I never would've imagined this day." First up on the Bostonian's wish list: a new car. "[I want to] get myself around Boston to help these young kids. That's all it's about, it's getting around the community and seeing what project you can get into and how you can help somehow. If you just keep it to yourself, it means nothing." The 20-year-old dancer is the first krumper to break the Top 20 in Dance history. "I'm just honored to be in a position to tell other krumpers you can do this and they believe me," he says. "If you know how to dance very well, just do it. Don't focus on the style, just attack it the same way you attack that dance you love. That's what I did. I love krump so much that I wasn't afraid of the movement." Of course, the night wasn't perfect for Ferguson. During his number with Jonathan "Legacy" Perez and Kevin Hunte, he pulled a muscle in his leg while jumping back on stage. "It hurt, but I was fine enough to walk, so I felt like I could dance," he says. He wasn't able to complete the other two exhibition dances the judges had requested. "This is what happens in real life," says Deeley, who had to improv when her microphone cut out on live television during the incident. "It's like, OK, let's get you on, let's get a doctor, let's take care of you, let's carry on with the show and let's do it as smoothly as we can. And then the lucky little thing went on to win the whole affair." Jakob Karr, a contemporary dancer, was perhaps the fan favorite to win. "I wouldn't have minded Jakob or Russell," says executive producer Nigel Lythgoe. "America will look at the charismatic performer that Russell is and think, 'Well, if he's done that, I can do that.' Remember, he didn't win by krumping. He won on doing other styles and that opens up for street kids to go, 'Oh, I should do a little ballroom, or maybe I should do this or that.'" "We always say it's about America's favorite dancer," adds Deeley. "It's not necessarily about the best dancer. To be honest, I know Jakob will go on and do incredible things." Judge Adam Shankman, on the other hand, says he and former Dance choreographer Mia Michaels knew Russell would be crowned the winner back at the Vegas auditions. "He was so good in all the different styles back then. He surprised us. We recognized he had extraordinary charisma." Shankman, who is also producing the Oscars, says that both top girl Kathryn McCormick and top boy Russell, will be given a dance role on the awards show. "Because these kids blow me away so much, I would like to give them the opportunity to have the same chance that I did," he says. So what's next for So You Think You Can Dance? Lythgoe says he's not sure when the next season will air, but he's aching to try something new. "I personally would love to put a show in Vegas," he says. "I would love to take all of the American Idols that are terrific, that didn't win, but are still fantastic; take these people and the So You Think You Can Dance dancers and do a really great show there. I think it would be fabulous." TVGuide.com |
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Remington Steele |
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To reiterate, a non-black person has never been chosen to play the untrained, highly-pimped dancer (e.g. Ivan, Legacy, Gev, Hok, Dominic...). Never a female
either because black men are soooo much scarier (Sabra had enough training IMO). Always a black man, even when they HAVE had formal training in more
established styles.
Even though the newly-invented street styles are now taught in schools, there's still the feeling that they are of a lesser pedigree than older styles that were invented by richer, whiter people. And since class and race are often inextricably linked...Why aren't the contempo/ballroom/tap people required to be "taught" by hip hop dancers? Isn't that a prejudicial attitude towards some ways of doing things that is patronizing?
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Remington Steele wrote: In the seasons where Nigel opted for the "story" of an untrained street dancer triumphing, he simply picked the most talented one he had. Russell > Legacy and Joshua > Gev (>>>>> Twitch), race notwithstanding. In Ivan's and Hok & Dominic's season, he was telling a different "story". |
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NellB |
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This show sucks in the fall. And it sucks without Mia Michaels. I felt zero connection to any of the dances this season. And where was the dead daddy/cancer
dance of this season for us to rip on?
The mic malfunction and Russell's leg injury were live tv gold, Jerry. I was watching tape-delayed in the Pacific time zone and it was still GOLD. I don't watch AI so I will hibernate at ABC/NBC until Glee comes back, and then bring on SYTYCD Season 7! |
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