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Posts: 6219 (12/21/09 08:58 PM) |
KenC <333
Im not saying Eliza doesnt have a right to say Russell is the best player. Im curious as to why shes calling the jury bitter when she was bitter when it came down to Chris/Twila? |
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JackSparrowBauer |
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Posts: 3700 (12/21/09 09:04 PM) |
How can you guys be calling Eliza a hypocrite for something she did 6 years ago? She did say she liked Chris better, but she also could've thought he
played a better game, too. That's how Leann voted, and that is how I'm guessing Eliza voted, too. That does not make her a hypocrite. She definitely
DID put aside all personal differences in Micronesia, her 2nd time, so that makes her even less of a hypocrite.
She's been a Russell fan this whole season, so it's probably really disappointing for her. She's entitled to her own opinions. |
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EOrlins |
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Posts: 1961 (12/21/09 09:06 PM) Because it's just a stick!!! |
JackSparrowBauer wrote: Hahahaha. Thanks for that. Yeah! I'm entitled to my opinions. I'm a huge Russell fan. I think it says something that he's going to be on S20 and Ratalie won't be. :) |
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Posts: 1181 (12/21/09 09:07 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!!
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Posts: 10041 (12/21/09 09:08 PM) |
Then why wasn't this jury entitled to their own opinion at the time of the vote? Were they obliged to vote for Russell because they had to disregard
personal feelings?? Is that in the rules for Survivor, Eliza?!? Please clarify, thanks! =)
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EOrlins |
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Posts: 1962 (12/21/09 09:10 PM) Because it's just a stick!!! |
For the record, Jeff Probst agrees with me!! :) http://popwatch.ew.com/2009/12/21/jeff-probst-survivor-russell/
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pushingjate |
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Posts: 6220 (12/21/09 09:13 PM) |
Once again, you're ignoring the point we all keep mentioning.
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dissimilis |
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Posts: 7498 (12/21/09 09:16 PM) Registered User |
The great thing about Survivor is that there is no voting criteria for the jurors.
Voting bitterly against someone is just as valid a criteria as voting for the most aggressive person. If you aren't perceptive enough to figure out what kind of jury you are going to be facing, you don't deserve to win. Natalie made bonds with the jurors and realized they were going to be pissed at Russell and rode him to the end, good on her! |
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Jho |
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Posts: 476 (12/21/09 09:17 PM) Registered User |
EOrlins wrote: Well, why is Danielle there too? I think it's funny how people say Russell outplayed them. Uhm, as far as I know, Natalie and Mick outplayed them as well |
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novaya |
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Posts: 1373 (12/21/09 09:20 PM) |
EOrlins wrote: Jeff Probst also loved Coach and shit all over Susie at the Gabon Reunion. Good Lord, Eliza.
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Teighteen |
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Posts: 3600 (12/21/09 09:21 PM) Registered User |
EOrlins wrote: This is where the similarity between your opinion and Probst's opinion ends: "I am not taking anything away from Natalie, she clearly did a great job of reading the group dynamic of the jury and as a result she deserves the money." He's showing class. You're not. I always liked you up until last night Eliza when you turned into a raging superbitch trying to take all credit away from Natalie and saying she's the least deserving person to ever win the money. No disrespect, but she was able to get to the finals... something you were unable to do twice. She deserves some credit, even if Russell played a better strategic game than she did. She had the superior social game. |
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Bjorkrazy |
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Posts: 736 (12/21/09 09:21 PM) |
Probst actually said if Natalie won she'd be invited for a future All-Star season, just like previous hotties that won. Clearly she was still recovering
and needed more than 2 weeks to restore her health.
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Posts: 12933 (12/21/09 09:21 PM) Registered User |
Of course Jeff agrees, he had a hand in Russell being shoved down our throats all season long. Whether it was through the editing or his blog, he should just
go to Vermont & marry Russell if he loves that much. His opinion is hardly unbiased.
Eliza, you didn't go to the finale party this year? |
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Paris Hilton |
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Posts: 8709 (12/21/09 09:23 PM) |
Dear Eliza, you hypocritical bicth,
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Posts: 5645 (12/21/09 09:27 PM) |
kenc333 wrote: Answer this post please, Eliza. eta- and yes I realize what he's doing
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12/21/09 09:32 PM.
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novaya |
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Posts: 1375 (12/21/09 09:35 PM) |
JackSparrowBauer wrote:
She's entitled to her opinions, and we're entitled to say she's a flagrant hypocrite for expressing them in the way she is. "Russell is back for S20 but Ratalie isn't~!11 ^_^" Gimme a break. And "putting aside all personal differences" in Micro doesn't mean much when her statement to Amanda was "listening to you talk made me want to KILL myself!" Lawd. Plus she said if it were Cirie/Parv, Cirie would have gotten her vote no question. Eliza's irrational Laura hate (in this thread ps) pushed me on the edge of tolerance for Eliza's emotional "opinions" -- her crazed hatred for Natalie just seals it with a kiss. |
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Posts: 9733 (12/21/09 09:37 PM) |
Wow I'm surprised to see everyone coming down so hard on Eliza. Even though I like Natalie and I despise Russell and think he's very overrated, I
understand her position. She's disappointed the jury didn't award the person that she thought should be rewarded.
I disagree with the idea that Natalie didn't earn it because she did but as someone that appreciates ~PIZAZZ~ and ~STRATEGERY~ I also understand being underwhelmed at her victory. Russell is such an overblown spin-doctor tho. His self-hype is very transparent to me and I don't think there is evidence of great gameplay from him, regardless of how good he is at soundbites to that effect. I think I might feel similarly to Eliza if I actually felt like Russell was a better player. |
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Posts: 13017 (12/21/09 09:37 PM) |
EOrlins wrote:Yes, because all the Hero slots were already filled. And you DO know what happens in S20 right? Alol. I personally can't wait for your whining again. (You weren't invited back either. SO TELLING.) And for all you, Natalie was invited back but she didn't wanna do 2 seasons in a row, like Courtney Yates. And Courtney came back for S20, so maybe Natalie will be a future All Star? A thin girl needs more time to recover than a fat ass who still has weight to lose. The fact that Amanda pulled it off shocks me.
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Posts: 3702 (12/21/09 09:44 PM) |
novaya wrote: Like I said, she's just disappointed that her favorite lost when it was being built up that he would win. Parv treated her like crap, but Amanda was just stupid. Amanda looks like the lesser of two evils in that situation, but Eliza voted for Parv. Yeah, she said that she would've voted for Cirie, but that's because she, like millions of other people, thought that Cirie played the best game. So she's a hypocrite for thinking Cirie played the best game? o_O |
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Posts: 4499 (12/21/09 09:45 PM) Registered user |
Well considering the public (and us) eat up All-Star seasons I could see them doing S24 (yes 24) as another ASS. Maybe just a simple All Star season or have
another stupid gimmick....Natalie would def be asked back considering she is one of the few young female winners this show has...that would wanna compete...
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