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dashbrdparadise |
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Eliza's strong opinions <3, however incorrect they may be.
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CSCin3D |
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Katy, nobody would have an issue if it was just her opinion that Russell was a better player. It's her insisting that the jurors were just bitter and
jealous and that it wasn't fair that he lost that is ridiculous, especially since ken has pointed out her hypocrisy in voting for Chris simply because she
"likes him better."
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novaya |
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JackSparrowBauer wrote: I ~get that~ oh mah werd, but Eliza has been so disfiguringly OTTNN5 about the whole thing that it warrants multiple What makes it worse is that as a competitor -- for TWO SEASONS -- Eliza should understand an ~edit~ and the fact Samoa had the shittiest editing of all 19 seasons. Yet here goes little 'Liza O., screaming about here on Sucks that Laura is such a bitch or ubercunt or w/e as ~CLEARLY DEMONSTRATED~ by the edit (sidebar: Then she vomits this all up come endgame that Natalie was this u.s.e.l.e.s.s. player who never did anything and Russell was such a dominant lifeforce -- when again that came down to edit and the fact Samoa was just one big editing rimjob for this "Villain" to be a player on the successive season aptly named "Heroes vs. Villains." Eliza should know better about shit edits and recognize that her dogging Natalie is something that's understandable from a pedestrian Suckster, but not a two season veteran who knows shit isn't quite as it's presented. So yeah, she's held to a higher standard. She knows Laura's an uber-bitch based on this edit -- and that Natalie is a worthless UTR piece of fail -- but comes on and defends (ok, a mild slap on the wrist) Charlie rimjobbing the Kotas' clear Fang heinousness and hatred of Crystal and the other Fangs. I didn't see Eliza shaking her fists in the air that BOB won over the power-player of Gabon that was Sugar -- did you? Sugar was heinous, vile, alienated the jury, and her strategy to lock into the F3, like Russell, didn't give her the win because she burned bridges -- aka played a POOR SOCIAL GAME. I don't see all off these Russtards whining about that Gabonese "travesty", ps. People supported SUSIE instead, who basically had a Natalie edit herself, and cheered that Sugar not only lost the game, but also lost fan fave. To BOB. So for literal Eliza can take her hypocritical "Kool Kidz Klub" garbage and shove it. |
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CSCin3D wrote:THIS. (Holy shit, Im on the same page as you for once And Nick, your posts have been making me laugh nonstop. |
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JackSparrowBauer |
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Those are Eliza's opinions. We all know that the editing sucks and there's always more to it, but we're fans of the show and that's all we can
know, so that's what we make our opinions off of. Everybody does it, so stop calling Eliza a hypocrite.
Eliza had every reason to hate Liz, because Liz sucks in every aspect and criticized Eliza pre-show, but Eliza has since met Liz and doesn't have any feeling of hate towards her (correct me if I'm wrong). Until Eliza gets to know there people in real life, she has as much to go off of as we do, and as a fan, she's entitled to her own opinion. |
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CSCin3D |
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so stop calling Eliza a hypocrite.Why? She is. She is lambasting the Samoa jury for not voting for the best player, when WE HAVE IT ON VIDEO that she voted for Chris because she "likes him better." That's the definition of a hypocrite. |
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SwineForkbeard |
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Toward the end, it looked to me like Russell was concentrating more on hogging the camera than figuring out a way to convince people to vote for him. I was
scratching my head at that confessional where he seemed to seriously contemplate taking Brett to the final 3, which would have been one of the single most
retarded moves in Survivor history. Russell may often miss the forest for the trees, but he's not stupid. I could understand making that deal with Brett
just to make sure Brett wouldn't target him if he won immunity, but once Russell had immunity, there was no reason to continue that ruse and blindside
another person needlessly. I strongly suspect that it was just a con job to get more TV time. He never had any intention of keeping Brett, but kept stringing
him along and pretending as if he might actually do it because he knew the editors would use that footage to make the show more suspenseful.
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novaya |
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JackSparrowBauer wrote:rofl. Gabon. Charlie. Irrational Kota love. Justifying a Bob win over Sugar, whereas here she hates a Natalie win over Russell. She meets the contestants constantly and tailors her opinions toward who she hangs out with. No. She's not a pedestrian Suckster and shouldn't be treated as such if she's going to be this flagrantly hypocritical. |
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JerseyJerk |
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Posts: 4500 (12/21/09 10:10 PM) Registered user |
I think Eliza is just embarrassed as she is being revealed as a hypocrite....
Unless she wants to admit she was bitter in her jury speech...then she is not being hypocritical..... |
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Mikester |
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CSCin3D wrote:X |
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JackSparrowBauer |
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CSCin3D wrote: Like I said earlier, she liked him better, but she also thought he played a better game, as did many other people. Leann said the same thing. She voted for Chris partly because he played a great game, and partly against Twila. Personal taste was just part of the decision. |
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XtremeInnovator420 |
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Yeah.....this whole thing is just making me uncomfortable, and I disagree with Eliza and think Natalie deserves the money (hell, I'd have probably voted
for her over Russell). What's disturbing to me is how vicious this whole things turned. I mean, does it really NEED to be this vicious? Like we can
respectfully disagree...
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Mikester |
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If you think Chris played a better game than Twila then there is already an obvious flaw in your logic
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JerseyJerk |
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Posts: 4501 (12/21/09 10:14 PM) Registered user |
Like I said earlier, she liked him better, but she also thought he played a better game, as did many other people. Leann said the same thing. She voted for Chris partly because he played a great game, and partly against Twila. Personal taste was just part of the decision.And how do you know that isn't the case with the Samoa jury?? You don't. |
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novaya |
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JackSparrowBauer wrote:
Sorry, JSB. Eliza deserves what she gets here. |
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novaya wrote: She favors her friends and her favorites? Since when is that a crime? |
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XtremeInnovator420 |
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Well, okay she knew Charlie before the show AND got pissed at him for his jury treatment of Crystal and behaviour around the Kotas, so I think it's fair to
give her that. I didn't know she preferred the Onions to Clusterfang (who were freaking awesome) and defended Bob winning....when I'm pretty sure Susie
should've. But again, it's all opinion, even if I have difficulty understanding or relating to it.
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novaya |
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JackSparrowBauer wrote: Apparently as of now if contestants like Brett, Laura, Erik, Monica, Jaison, Dave, and Kelly favored a friend and favorite like Natalie over Russell Hantz. |
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NickF227 |
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pushingjate wrote:Natalie's win has ~inspired~ me to become a better poster. I always hated that picture of Natalie, it looks like they photoshopped a big chunk of it out. Stupid fucking wind. |
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JackSparrowBauer |
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Mikester wrote: Chris went from the next one gone to every single person left in the game eating out of the palm of his hand in 4 days. Twila gave him a crack and he took full advantage of it. Twila made no effort to keep Eliza on their side at F6. Just because Chris has a penis and beat all of the young and attractive women doesn't mean he was an inferior player. Cases can be made for both Chris and Twila for who's the better player in Vanuatu. Eliza obviously took the Chris side. |
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