Still, it's good to know that the Guatemala peeps haven't been totally snubbed.

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That's a pity. I would have liked to see Rafe play again.
Still, it's good to know that the Guatemala peeps haven't been totally snubbed. |
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Salarakas wrote:Amanda was the best player in China until she had breakdown in her jury speech. Amanda was mastermind in taking out James and she had the power to take out Todd but she decided to stay loyal because Todd was her biggest ally. Personally i think Amanda should have taken out Todd. James is a bad player period and i have no clue why he is on H vs V because he is clueless how to play the game. Cire and Parvat are both slightly overrated. I was amazed that Parvati was on F vs F as she played average game in Cook Islands and she was never consider as a favorite in her seasons. Parvati should have never been asked to be on F vs F because she didn't deserve it. I like to see Amanda and Cirie again but not James or Parvati. Also i really don't want to see Coach and Tyson again if they are both on. I would have prefer Brian H over Tyson as i consider Brian the best player in survivor history. |
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It was a bad move actually (executing it at top 7, the way Amanda did) but because James was dumb enough to not use the HII two times in a row, she lucked out.So they should have let James coast to the Final 4 where he'd be one challenge from winning the game? Seriously? She couldn't have the guts to betray Todd because the bond Todd created with her was strong enough.She thought he was a goat. Wrong though she was, Todd had nothing to do with that. But no, Todd wouldn't do that because he knew Amanda was easier to beat in the final TC than Denise. Denise wouldn't have gotten any votes. And Amanda was immune for gods sake. Taking out James was originally Todd's idea.And he stopped that purely because somebody dared to have the same idea as him. A lot of the James thing could've been easily avoided if Todd hadn't, you know, given both idols to him in the first place. Which was completely moronic. |
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Posts: 4790 (12/22/09 08:51 PM) Registered user |
DarrahColleenJerri wrote:Were'nt there 5 people that went out as alternates to Samoa as well or something? Big Tom, Tina, Jenna M (maybe), and 2 others... not sure but those people were all cut last minute... Jenna said no because of her wrestling thing I think. I also heard a rumor that Hutner was asked but declined (though... I really doubt they asked him... I mean you have a season full of people going far in the game... then a 3rd boot? doesn't make sense to me). |
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Cyberball2072 |
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I'd have liked to see Shane back, as well as lex. maybe they should have gone 4 tribes of 8, and eliminate 2 per episode to narrow things down initially.
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JerseyJerk |
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Posts: 4504 (12/22/09 09:46 PM) Registered user |
As a hardcore fan for all 19 seasons (and not one of these people that started at S12 or didn't see S3-9 or started at S16) here is what I think:
We need at least one person from each season.....plain and simple They have 20 people on S20 and 18 seasons to choose from. I say 18 seasons because S8 is not in contention and as much as people call for Natalie (S16) love she really was not a good/big character....it could be the editors fault or just hers. All other players were either repeats or not interesting and only people that made the merge really should be considered (thats pretty much consensus); Jason was not good enough to warrant a second chance and neither were Eric or Alexis. Natalie made it far but was simply not that big of a character. S16 is off the charts. Out of 18 seasons they should have had 18 different seasons represented...and then they could allow for 2 seasons with 2 Survivors represented. In lieu of making this a list completely of who I think should be on and change everything I'll just mention what seasons are not represented and who should be there and in whos place. Borneo We need to have a rep from Borneo....I really do not understand how they can promote this season as an All Star season and bring up "For 19 seasons yada yada....." and not include someone from the season that started it all. The first example of the "unforgettable personalities" they show us in the S20 preview features Sue giving her Rat/Snake speech to Kelly....why not have either of these two ladies? I'm sure either of them would have come back. I really don't get why Kelly W. is pretty much NEVER mentioned as even a hopeful for an ASS season. I think either of them should/could easily take Candice's place on Heroes (Kelly) or Danielle's place on Villains (Susan) but for the sake of realizing she wouldn't win (most likely) I would rather have Kelly there as I feel she offers a real possibility to win. Africa Lex. He is probably one of the most hated people ever to appear on this show. He is also a great game player and also a big character. I think he could easily take Randy's place on Villains. Randy is just one of those people you feel bad for and don't necessarily hate...I think that is the universal consensus...kind of a 'I don't hate him...but I don't like him" feeling. Thailand Brian. Like him or hate him (personally I hate him) he is always argued as the second best winner after Hatch. Lets see him prove it....plus he is a great example of a Villain. I say take away Tyson's spot. Tyson, to me, is the Amber of this season. I feel he has done the least out of anyone there to earn himself an All Star spot. I don't agree with Danielle or Candice but Danielle at least got 2nd place and Candice (though I cant remember much else) was instrumental in the mutiny. Tyson I just remember telling bad jokes and getting voted out early merge. Amazon Rob. He is the only castaway who hasnt won but is treated and thought of as just as much of a threat. It's another case of prove your worth. ASS1 was full of All-Stars and bitter people (Alicia, Rob M., Jenna etc). Now the tables are turned, in a sense, seeing as last time they met Rob M. was a 10th place finisher and Rob C. a 3rd place finisher and now Rob C is a 15th placer and Rob M. a runner up. This season should be all high profile threats so if Rob can win and change the "Best player to never win" title to "Best player to win" then this is the place to do it. I would want him there in lieu of Coach. To me Coach is someone who is just a creep. He was never a threat in Tocantins and doesn't seem like one in HvV. I don't think Coach has any fans of his game play....and I don't think he would be missed... Vanuatu Eliza. As much as I think Eliza is being hypocritical regarding the present debate about Russell I still love her and think she is more suited for this season than FvF. She was seen as such a little conniving cu..nt in S9 I find it hard to believe she is not on S20. I would love her there in Danielle's place on Villains. Fiji Dreams executed one of the most villainous betrayals in Survivor history.... but just because of that reason I feel like he would definitely not make it very far. He is seen as one of the biggest pieces of shit in Survivor history so thats why I don't want him or think it would be a good idea to have him. Yau-Man is the best example of a hero. A hero for older viewers, for Asian viewers, for nice viewers...just a hero in general....more so than James in my opinion. James is just seen as a nice guy but not necessarily a hero. I like the guy but maybe for another all-star season seeing as we all know there will be another sooner rather than later (did anyone REALLY think they would do another ASS season so soon after S16?) and Yau-Man may just be to old in a few years. So I would want Yau-Man in James' position for a variety of reasons. Breakdown by season S1 Borneo - Kelly S2 Australia - Colby, Jerri S3 Africa - Lex S4 Marquesas - Boston Rob S5 Thailand - Brian S6 Amazon - Rob C. S7 Pearl Islands - Rupert, Sandra S8 All-Stars - Colby, Jerri, Lex, Rob C., Boston Rob, Rupert S9 Vanuatu - Eliza S10 Palau - Stephenie, Tom S11 Guatemala - Stephenie S12 Panama - Cirie, S13 Cook Islands - Parvati S14 Fiji - Yau-Man S15 China - Amanda, Courtney S16 Micronesia - Eliza, Cirie, Yau-Man, Amanda, Parvati S17 Gabon - Sugar S18 Tocantins - JT S19 Samoa - Russell I think this would be generally excepted as a good cast. Granted the addition of Rich, Fairplay, Rudy (in his prime), Tina, Ethan (in his prime) and a few others would allow for an AMAZING season...certain things have happened that don't allow it to be. I have omitted Candice, Randy, Coach, Tyson and Danielle. I feel they are all people that are not 'make um or break um" in that it doesn't really make it less of an ASS season if they are there or not. the only seasons that have two castaways represented are Outback and China. Colby and Jerri are two of the most recognizable Survivors and no one can deny that Amanda deserves to be on another ASS season (although I don't like her) or that Courtney was one of the more interesting, yet bitchy, people on China. I would have been 100% content with this cast. I really think they are obvious choices as replacements and would feel a lot better with a rep from every season. Even if not these specific people I choose, you cannot say that it would not be better with a rep from every season... |
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They should have done -
Heroes - Rupert Gary Ian Terry Russell Lil Sandra Twila Sugar Sierra Villians - Boston Rob Jamie Todd Randy Coach Katie Candice Denise Natalie B Corrinne Thoughts? |
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Rudy? Are you fucking kidding me?
Rudy will be so old by the time this thing starts that I seriously doubt he will be able to walk without a walker. As a matter of fact, I would bet that if he isn't dead already, he will very likely be dead by the time the season starts. By the way, the same goes for a lot of the other people they are thinking of having in the cast. The first Survivor ran ten years ago. There is a huge difference between people in their 30s and those in their 40s. Having people back who appeared in the early seasons is a terrible idea. Actually, this whole idea sounds like a terrible idea to me. I think they should just call it a wrap and let the Survivor franchise die with S19. Let that be the last season and just kiss the show goodbye. |
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James is such a waste of a spot for all stars. So we are just going to watch him get outplayed for the third time in a row? Will we
watch him be hyped up as the best "physical competitor.:", and him winning 0 immunity challenges.
If they wanted a black man on survivor, they should have brought back Earl. I understand that Fiji isn't a great season, but he did dominate that game. I wouldn't mind seeing Yul again, to put the end to the debate about the HII. |
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I also think Colby, Jerri, Stephenie, and Cirie were boring on their 2nd appearances on the show and do not deserve to be brought back for season 20 because of
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I'm really happy with this cast. I hate Randy but I understand why he is there. The only person on the cast that I think is a waste is Danielle. I think
the 19 other choices are pretty damn good. Although, I am kind of upset that season 1 isn't repped at all. Oh well. And I'm happy Fiji isn't
being represented at all, that season should just be forgotten.
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Posts: 4507 (12/22/09 10:45 PM) Registered user |
Rudy? Are you fucking kidding me?Are you referring to me?? If you are....I am saying Rudy in his prime.....and Kelly is only 32 now.... Ages (more for myself than you) Breakdown by season S1 Borneo - Kelly (32) S2 Australia - Colby (35) , Jerri (39) S3 Africa - Lex (46) S4 Marquesas - Boston Rob (33) S5 Thailand - Brian (41) S6 Amazon - Rob C. (31) S7 Pearl Islands - Rupert (45), Sandra (35) S9 Vanuatu - Eliza (26) S10 Palau - Stephenie (30), Tom (45) S12 Panama - Cirie (39) S13 Cook Islands - Parvati (27) S14 Fiji - Yau-Man (57) S15 China - Amanda (25) , Courtney (28) S17 Gabon - Sugar (30) S18 Tocantins - JT (25) S19 Samoa - Russell (37) |
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It's gonna be funny for the next all-stars when everyone is complaining that Coach is back for a 3rd time.
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JerseyJerk wrote:I'm very surprised by Kelly and Brain, have they ever been asked back for any ASS editions, I cant believe that Shi Ann and Jenna L got on the first one before these two. |
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well, while I can understand the sentiment of having people from certain seasons, we are talking about a concept called "HEROS VS VILLAINS" and by
that, it limits certain people down in certain known categories.
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Its going to be annoying, because we have 5 camera hogs in their respective seasons (Rupert, James, Coach, Russell, and Stephanie).
The interesting thing is I wonder who will be the ultimate camera hog , in which they get 95% of the screen time? I think it would be awesome if anyone else but Russell, gets that role, because I know it would piss him off greatly. |
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Cyberball2072 wrote: Oh, I don't know. Plenty of the cast aren't really obviously one or the other. I mean, Danielle was neither a hero nor a villain in her season, and Stephenie has been both. I think they just cast the people they could get, and then shoe-horned the ones who didn't obviously fit either category into whichever slot would make the tribe divisions work out better. |
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Cyberball2072 |
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your probably right, but they needed some sort of gimmick for this season and they chose HEROS VS VILLAINS, which is a good gimmick when you think about it.
Yeah, there are plenty of VILLAINS that did not make it for some reason (Shane, Lex). Some I don't know why they were where they were: By all accounts, Jessica "Sugar" of season 17 was generally hated by those with her, and many have questioned the edit that she got. If she is REALLY that stuck up and that much a 'bitch' as they claim, she won't last long on the hero's tribe. |
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The lack of anybody from Borneo is probably the most infuriating thing about the S20 cast. How do you have a 10th anniversary season without anybody from the
season that started the damn show in the first place?
I know they tried to get Hatch and couldn't, but what's stopping them from getting any of the other 8-10 memorable Borneo contestants? Am I seriously supposed to believe that none of Kelly, Rudy, Sue, Sean, Colleen, Gervase, Jenna, Greg or even Gretchen were available and/or asked to go out again? |
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