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Sensei Mike1 |
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QuizGuy66 |
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I don't think Natalie was trying to say women had to be subservient to win - I think that she observed in this group a tendency for strong females to get
voted off.
-QG |
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jamesrankin |
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I know for a fact if Russle read this article he would cry! |
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AussieOriginal |
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That was a superb article. Russell had absolutely no clue about anything to do with social skills, which is ultimiately what is needed to win. He deserved to
lose.
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Mypoody2 |
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Beefcake wrote: MOTHER. FUCKING. THISSSSSS. |
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Mypoody2 |
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It's funny to me how all of a sudden Natalie is this strategic genius who planned since day 1 to let russell run around and make all these incredible moves
knowing in the back of her mind all along that she would be up against him in the jury and knowing that she would be more likeable because she didn't make
any moves thus she didnt piss anyone off.
I mean, are we to believe this bitch is as clairvoyant as Shambo claims to be? Give me a fucking break. I also love that "social game" has been reduced to simply being nice. Give me a fucking break. Clearly manipulation and reading people are involved in a social game. Strategy is not manipulation. Strategy is your plan of action, not the action itself. |
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xoDC3xo |
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Mypoody2 wrote:She gambled on Russell and won. It's kind of simple really. Oh yeah, and she was really nice. You summed it up pretty nicely, actually. Yeah, that was her strategy and it was better than Russel's. She was more strategic. |
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losemygrip |
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Hippochinfat wrote:What, are you in like, fourth grade special education? Illiterate retards need to step aside. |
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menelaus |
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It's pretty obvious that Natalie was with Russell with this very plan of action the whole time, or at least after the Marisa and Betsy boots. Russell is a
delusional idiot.
Also, Natalie did more than just "be nice to people." She actually built friendships with them. Pretty much everyone who voted for Natalie said that they voted for her over Mick because Natalie interacted with them more, so they all had better relationships with Natalie. Natalie did what many of the great winners in the past (like Parvati and Todd), forge friendships with people strong enough that they are okay with you having voted them out so that they will give you the million dollars. Russell may have dominated the strategic game, but that is irrelevant. As soon as he started trying to threaten people to follow him and flaunt his victories in their faces, he made people actively dislike him. Russell didn't lose because he blindsided everyone and owned them, he lost because he is the single biggest asshole the show has ever had (with the same level of delusions as Coach). Think about it: Who are you going to give the million dollars to, the person you like, or the person you hate, given that there is no other "criteria" off of which to base your votes and they both voted the same way every time and Galu was a bomb just waiting to go off. The 3 Foas all recognized that Russell would lose in the final vote against any of them, so they all tried to get him to take them to the end (after all, Russell was the single biggest goat since Steph in guatemala). Had Russell payed attention during his watching of Micronesia, or had he even watched China, he would have known that it IS possible to completely dominate the strategic game and still win. It just requires a social game. Todd's opening speech to the jury was largely about the social aspects of the game, how he built relationships and friendships with everyone, even though he did stab most of them in the back. He got people to respect both his gameplay and his integrity as a person. Parvati did the same thing. Russell only did one, and he did the one that was less important. General rule: The more well-liked player, regardless of their strategic play, will win the FTC vote. You can get a few votes for strategy, but it will almost always come down to personal connections. Russell, and everyone who thinks that Russell deserved to win, fails to understand how the game of survivor works. |
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AussieOriginal |
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But... but... but... Russell said he DID play a social game... he said he played a social game with Shambo, and with Jaison and...and... :lol
He just forgot about the social game with the other jurors. And even with him suppposedly playing a social game with Jaison, he still didn't get Jaison's vote (he only got Shambo and John). He was so busy telling everyone and himself how good he was he completely neglected the most important part of the game - the social part. |
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Hippochinfat |
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Posts: 546 (12/23/09 02:58 AM) |
losemygrip wrote:im prolly older den u, mayb im not book smart cuz i have a life, but i haev street smarts u dont no, i no like 10 diffrent words u can use for weed, i bet u dont even no wtf weed is. im not fuckin retarded, tho ppl say i am, but idc wen im typing 2 FAGS and ppl im DISRESPECTIN, i dont fix mistake and i dont use short form or shit cuz i hav a life unlike u i bet u live in ur mums basment and jerk of 2 supermodels ur fag ass wont ever have, honkey. |
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Axie.rsfd |
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Oh my werd, why can't people just admit that the Natatards that pissed the hell off everyone around here were right all along?
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Rain |
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The article has some good points, but a lot of them are flawed as well.
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EnricoV |
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Hows about we try a little test with Mz Twunt's insight? All of you who think that article was so brilliant toddle on over to TWOP and tell her how wrong
she was. And let us know how long before you're booted out for not goose-stepping to the opinions to a woman whose arrogance rivals Russells?
And kind of like Russell's good strategizing, she has good writing skills, but sucks so bad at all other aspects of life, I just can't support either of them. |
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AussieOriginal |
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I've already been banned by Ms Bulli - but I can still admit when she writes a good article.
Your point is a bit stupid, isn't it? She's not in the game, whether she has good writing skills or not makes no difference to how badly Russell played the social game. |
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Eugene Schwindlemyer |
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I like the part where the author points out that jeff root for the most manly man, should have just called him a faggot, I do.
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Eugene Schwindlemyer |
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Mypoody2 wrote: Um, you have to DO SOMETHING to be a fullbright scholar, of course this kind of talk comes from people who couldn't finish college. |
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Venatrix Avia |
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She's not even with TWOP anymore, so relax.
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 10082 (12/23/09 12:15 PM) Registered user |
Beefcake wrote:Aren't you supposed to be a Boston Rob hater? |
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GrenadeJumper85 |
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Reward people for what they are ("He's a Fulbright scholar!") instead of what they do. WTF? Do you realize to actually do WORK to get the title of a Fulbright scholar. It's not just handed to you. |
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