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khnum		#701	[-]
Posts: 25872 (12/27/09 01:17 PM) dimply pooh bear Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Ad freedom fighters united! Remove this ad ndralcasid wrote: Needs more: "Russel Hantz was a total asshole towards the people he was voting out"
Quiddity		#702	[-]
Posts: 6896 (12/27/09 03:00 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Drboboosh2 wrote: I don't think John voting out Laura was that stupid. Given that Mick was immune, there was only a 3/7 chance of a Foa Foa/Shambo going home. There's a 1/7 chance he goes home, and a 3/7 chance of another Galu going home. Obviously it turned out bad for him, but his logic wasn't totally off base. It was insanely stupid because it gave Foa Foa the majority and made his vote meaningless. Yeah, there was a 1/7 chance of him drawing the purple rock and going home. But him voting out Laura in the revote gave him essentially a 0.0000000001% chance of getting to the final three. Russell voting out Jaison & Shambo over Natalie deserves to be on this list.
Thailandsurvivor		#703	[-]
Posts: 9289 (12/27/09 03:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Quiddity wrote: Drboboosh2 wrote: I don't think John voting out Laura was that stupid. Given that Mick was immune, there was only a 3/7 chance of a Foa Foa/Shambo going home. There's a 1/7 chance he goes home, and a 3/7 chance of another Galu going home. Obviously it turned out bad for him, but his logic wasn't totally off base. It was insanely stupid because it gave Foa Foa the majority and made his vote meaningless. Yeah, there was a 1/7 chance of him drawing the purple rock and going home. But him voting out Laura in the revote gave him essentially a 0.0000000001% chance of getting to the final three. Russell voting out Jaison & Shambo over Natalie deserves to be on this list. Jaison would have beaten him, too. I will give you Shambo, but Jaison was at the very least, just as much, if not more of a jury threat than Natalie. The only person Russell could have beaten was Shambo, and #16... 16. Russell Hantz votes off Jaison instead of Natalie at Final 5. (This is the mistake that cost him the million dollars and the title of Greatest Player of All Time. Had he simply voted off Natalie instead of Jaison at Final 5 he could have taken Mick and Jaison to the Final 3 and he probably would have beaten them easily. The underlying problem here was that he somehow failed to perceive that Natalie was a potential jury vote threat.) Should not be on this list. John voting for Laura should be higher than #17. It not only killed his game, it killed his entire tribe's chance at making it to the end. I know I've said this many times before, but this should not be on the list. 21. Ken Hoang believes Corinne and Bob's story about them having an immunity idol (seemingly without even asking to see it) and responds by creating a risky and unnecessary split vote between Matty and Corinne. Crystal Cox somehow goes along with the plan despite suspecting that the idol was a fake. Ken did not believe they had a HII. He voted for Matty to get jury votes. We saw in the fucking episode that Sugar and Crystal did not care that he voted for Matty. They were fine with it. Bob was still leaving if he lost immunity at the final 6, and if he won, Sugar had enough influence to have him vote for Matty. Sugar did change her mind, but it had absolutely nothing to do with Ken voting for Matty. The stupidest move from Tocantins was by far Sierra, Coach, Debbie, and Erinn not teaming up at the final 7, especially after Jalapao three were the final three in the coconut chop challenge that very episode. I have no clue why... 22. After Brendan is voted off, Benjamin "Coach" Wade, Tyson Apostol and Debra Beebe once again pass on a opportunity to vote off JT and instead vote for Sierra, arguably the smallest threat of any player left in the game. (And to make things even more impressive, they don't even succeed in voting her out and Tyson winds up going instead.) is the worst move from Tocantins. Coach, Debbie, and Tyson believed they were going to go to the final 5 with Stephen and JT. That may have been stupid in itself, but JT actually wanted that to happen. Stephen and Erinn were the ones that changed shit up and sent Tyson home. 24. At Final 9, Benjamin "Coach" Wade, Tyson Apostol, Debra Beebe and Erinn Lobdell vote for Brendan and Sierra instead of JT. (Meanwhile, Brendan and Sierra make the equally stupid decision of voting for Coach instead of JT.) Once again, I don't get why this is stupid. They trusted JT, and JT actually did trust them. What was stupid was not teaming up with the other Timbira members at the final 7. I'm sure if JT didn't win, then the stupid move would be not voting out Stephen and that is ridiculous. They aren't watching the edited show that the audience is. They couldn't predict JT was going to win. 26. Alex Bell tells Rob than he plans on voting for him when they reach the Final 4. I would like to know why this is not number one.
CrystalOwnage		#704	[-]
Posts: 5684 (12/27/09 03:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	khnum wrote: ndralcasid wrote: Needs more: "Russel Hantz was a total asshole towards the people he was voting out"
Quiddity		#705	[-]
Posts: 6900 (12/27/09 03:34 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jaison would have beaten him, too. I will give you Shambo, but Jaison was at the very least, just as much, if not more of a jury threat than Natalie. The only person Russell could have beaten was Shambo, and #16... Oh, definately. But Russell would have had a better chance at beating Jaison. Natalie was his biggest threat after Brett because she had such a strong social game, he never realized it. The stupidest move from Tocantins was by far Sierra, Coach, Debbie, and Erinn not teaming up at the final 7, especially after Jalapao three were the final three in the coconut chop challenge that very episode. I have no clue why... Because Sierra was such a moron. Debbie and Coach tried to team back up with her, she refused and got voted out herself instead. 24. At Final 9, Benjamin "Coach" Wade, Tyson Apostol, Debra Beebe and Erinn Lobdell vote for Brendan and Sierra instead of JT. (Meanwhile, Brendan and Sierra make the equally stupid decision of voting for Coach instead of JT.) Not a mistake for Erinn. She'd be out sixth if her original tribe stuck together. She was at least fourth (and as we saw, eventually third) with Jalapao. A mistake for everyone else.
Lexxan		#706	[-]
Posts: 1004 (12/27/09 03:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Exactly. Erinn had nothing to gain by joining Coach, Debbie and Sierra. Why would she screw over the Jalapaos, the only people that could possible vote for her in a F2 (Stephen and Taj were the only two persons that like Erinn, and vice versa.) Also, she absolutely hated Debbie, Coach and Sierra. No chance in hell she'd join them.
AussieOriginal		#707	[-]
Posts: 2089 (12/27/09 06:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Jaison would have beaten him, too. I will give you Shambo, but Jaison was at the very least, just as much, if not more of a jury threat than Natalie. The only person Russell could have beaten was Shambo But didn't Jeff poll the jury at the Reunion with the scenario of F3 Russell, Jaison and Shambo? Shambo got 2 votes (one of which was surprisingly Laura). Jaison got (I think) just 1vote and Russell got the rest. So Jaison would not have beaten him. Just more proof that Russell played a piss poor game.
forsbergacct2000		#708	[-]
Posts: 160 (12/27/09 06:18 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	To be fair, when they were polled at the reunion, they had watched all the episodes. It's hard to know what really would have happened.
goohst		#709	[-]
Posts: 1483 (12/27/09 06:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	AnomyBC wrote: 43. Final 7, ~~the four remaining Timbiras,~~ ~~Benjamin "Coach" Wade~~, ~~Debra Beebe,~~ Sierra Reed ~~and Erinn Lobdell~~ fails to put aside her differences and get back together to vote off JT. (Granted, this would have been difficult to pull off since they all hated each other and loved JT, but clearly it would have been the smartest thing for all four of them to do strategically. Sometimes you have to wonder if some of these people are even trying to win. I mean, is having to work with people you don't like for one vote really so horrible that it's worth giving up a million dollars for?) Fix'd.
AussieOriginal		#710	[-]
Posts: 2091 (12/27/09 06:58 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Ad freedom fighters united! Remove this ad forsbergacct2000 wrote: To be fair, when they were polled at the reunion, they had watched all the episodes. It's hard to know what really would have happened. True, but even so they'd be more likely to not have voted for Russell after watching the show, don't you think? After all the disparaging remarks he made about them and all. So for them to say that they would have voted for Russell to win over Jaison is saying that they had little or no respect for Jaison's game either.
AnomyBC		#711	[-]
Posts: 4958 (12/28/09 12:45 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	If anyone cares, I corrected #17 (John changing his vote to Laura) to read the following: "Had he stuck to his original vote there would have been only a 1-in-7 chance that he would have been eliminated and a 3-in-7 chance that Galu could have gained back the numbers advantage. Plus there was 1-in-7 chance that Russell would have been eliminated." (Previously it had said "Had he stuck to his original vote there would have been only a 1-in-8 chance that he would have been eliminated and a 50% chance that Galu could have gained back the numbers advantage. Plus there was 1-in-8 chance that Russell would have been eliminated.")
AnomyBC		#712	[-]
Posts: 4959 (12/28/09 01:29 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Quiddity wrote: Jaison would have beaten him, too. I will give you Shambo, but Jaison was at the very least, just as much, if not more of a jury threat than Natalie. The only person Russell could have beaten was Shambo, and #16... Oh, definately. But Russell would have had a better chance at beating Jaison. Natalie was his biggest threat after Brett because she had such a strong social game, he never realized it. The stupidest move from Tocantins was by far Sierra, Coach, Debbie, and Erinn not teaming up at the final 7, especially after Jalapao three were the final three in the coconut chop challenge that very episode. I have no clue why... Because Sierra was such a moron. Debbie and Coach tried to team back up with her, she refused and got voted out herself instead. 24. At Final 9, Benjamin "Coach" Wade, Tyson Apostol, Debra Beebe and Erinn Lobdell vote for Brendan and Sierra instead of JT. (Meanwhile, Brendan and Sierra make the equally stupid decision of voting for Coach instead of JT.) Not a mistake for Erinn. She'd be out sixth if her original tribe stuck together. She was at least fourth (and as we saw, eventually third) with Jalapao. A mistake for everyone else. OK, I've got a lot of stuff to respond to, but I'll start with the 3 issues mentioned here...... First, I don't believe that Jaison would have beaten Russell. I believe that if Russell had gone to the Final 3 with Mick and Jaison he would have gotten votes from Shambo, John, Natalie, Dave, Kelly and Monica. And Jaison would have gotten votes from Erik, Laura and Brett. Mick, once again, wouldn't have gotten any votes. I have no hard evidence to back this up, but I'm going ask the players who have Facebook how they would have voted and that should clear things up somewhat. I don't believe that the failure of Coach, Debbie, Sierra and Erinn to team up at Final 7 was entirely Sierra's fault. I think her reluctance was probably the primary reason it didn't happen, but we also have no idea if Erinn would have joined them and I'm not 100% convinced that Coach was fully on board either. If the Timbira's stuck together and voted out JT, Erinn would not have finished 6th. Most likely there would have been the same showdown between Couch/Tyson and Brendan at the next vote. Most likely Brendan would have been voted out, followed by Sierra. This would have left a Final 6 of Coach, Tyson, Debbie, Erinn, Taj and Stephen. At this point my guess is that the latter 4 would have formed an alliance to vote off Tyson and Coach. Assuming neither of them goes on an immunity run, that leaves a Final 4 of Erinn, Debbie, Taj and Stephen. At that point Taj would have likely been the next target if she didn't win immunity. That would leave a Final 3 of Erinn, Debbie and Stephen. At this point, I think either Stephan would have won the final immunity and taken Erinn to Final 2 or Erinn herself would have won the final immunity and taken Stephen (I can't really see Debbie winning it.) Either way, the Final 3 would have been Erinn and Stephen and I think Erinn would have had a decent shot of winning the whole thing (particularly if Stephen's jury performance was as bad as the one he gave against JT.) Last Edited By: AnomyBC 12/28/09 01:42 AM. Edited 3 times.
AnomyBC		#713	[-]
Posts: 4960 (12/28/09 01:31 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Lexxan wrote: Exactly. Erinn had nothing to gain by joining Coach, Debbie and Sierra. Why would she screw over the Jalapaos, the only people that could possible vote for her in a F2 (Stephen and Taj were the only two persons that like Erinn, and vice versa.) Also, she absolutely hated Debbie, Coach and Sierra. No chance in hell she'd join them. To be clear, I don't think Erinn should have screwed over ALL the Jalapaos, just JT :)
Thailandsurvivor		#714	[-]
Posts: 9302 (12/28/09 01:48 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	AnomyBC wrote: First, I don't believe that Jaison would have beaten Russell. I believe that if Russell had gone to the Final 3 with Mick and Jaison he would have gotten votes from Shambo, John, Natalie, Dave, Kelly and Monica. And Jaison would have gotten votes from Erik, Laura and Brett. Mick, once again, wouldn't have gotten any votes. I have no hard evidence to back this up, but I'm going ask the players who have Facebook how they would have voted and that should clear things up somewhat. Monica told us (and Russell to his face) that she was never going to vote for him if she left when she did. Natalie was close with Laura, Brett, and Monica, so I don't have a clue why you think she would side with Russell when she didn't vote for him on the show. That's not even taking into account Russell's bullshit answer to her question (an answer that she called him out on during the jury questioning.) You have nothing to back your case, and it is ridiculous to make an entry for that. Russell was not going to beat Jaison.
AnomyBC		#715	[-]
Posts: 4961 (12/28/09 01:49 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	AussieOriginal wrote: Jaison would have beaten him, too. I will give you Shambo, but Jaison was at the very least, just as much, if not more of a jury threat than Natalie. The only person Russell could have beaten was Shambo But didn't Jeff poll the jury at the Reunion with the scenario of F3 Russell, Jaison and Shambo? Shambo got 2 votes (one of which was surprisingly Laura). Jaison got (I think) just 1vote and Russell got the rest. So Jaison would not have beaten him. Just more proof that Russell played a piss poor game. Yes, for the record, when Jeff asked the jury how they would have voted if the Final 3 was Russell, Jaison and Shambo, this is how they said they would vote..... Natalie - Jaison? Mick - Russell. Brett - Jaison Monica - Russell Dave - Didn't raise his hand. John - Russell Laura - Shambo Kelly - Russell Erik - Shambo That's 4 votes Russell, 2 votes Shambo and 1 vote Jaison, with 2 people not voting. So clearly Jaison was not a huge jury vote threat. Edit: Actually Natalie partly raises her hand for Jaison, so I'm going to give him credit for that. That's 4 votes Russell, 2 votes Shambo and 2 votes Jaison. Russell still wins no matter who Dave votes for, and I think Dave would have voted for Russell anyway. Last Edited By: AnomyBC 12/28/09 01:58 AM. Edited 1 times.
AnomyBC		#716	[-]
Posts: 4962 (12/28/09 01:52 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Thailandsurvivor wrote: AnomyBC wrote: First, I don't believe that Jaison would have beaten Russell. I believe that if Russell had gone to the Final 3 with Mick and Jaison he would have gotten votes from Shambo, John, Natalie, Dave, Kelly and Monica. And Jaison would have gotten votes from Erik, Laura and Brett. Mick, once again, wouldn't have gotten any votes. I have no hard evidence to back this up, but I'm going ask the players who have Facebook how they would have voted and that should clear things up somewhat. Monica told us (and Russell to his face) that she was never going to vote for him if she left when she did. Natalie was close with Laura, Brett, and Monica, so I don't have a clue why you think she would side with Russell when she didn't vote for him on the show. That's not even taking into account Russell's bullshit answer to her question (an answer that she called him out on during the jury questioning.) You have nothing to back your case, and it is ridiculous to make an entry for that. Russell was not going to beat Jaison. She said that because she didn't want to be voted off. People says things like that all the time and it is in no way predictive of how they actually vote. Monica also raised her hand for Russell at the reunion (see above), when asked who she would vote for between Russell, Jaison and Shambo.
Thailandsurvivor		#717	[-]
Posts: 9303 (12/28/09 01:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	AnomyBC wrote: Thailandsurvivor wrote: AnomyBC wrote: First, I don't believe that Jaison would have beaten Russell. I believe that if Russell had gone to the Final 3 with Mick and Jaison he would have gotten votes from Shambo, John, Natalie, Dave, Kelly and Monica. And Jaison would have gotten votes from Erik, Laura and Brett. Mick, once again, wouldn't have gotten any votes. I have no hard evidence to back this up, but I'm going ask the players who have Facebook how they would have voted and that should clear things up somewhat. Monica told us (and Russell to his face) that she was never going to vote for him if she left when she did. Natalie was close with Laura, Brett, and Monica, so I don't have a clue why you think she would side with Russell when she didn't vote for him on the show. That's not even taking into account Russell's bullshit answer to her question (an answer that she called him out on during the jury questioning.) You have nothing to back your case, and it is ridiculous to make an entry for that. Russell was not going to beat Jaison. She said that because she didn't want to be voted off. People says things like that all the time and it is in no way predictive of how they actually vote. Monica also raised her hand for Russell at the reunion (see above), when asked who she would vote for between Russell, Jaison and Shambo. According to reunions, Lill would have beaten Fairplay. We both know that's not true. You cannot judge what someone is going to do after they've seen the edited season.
Paparazzi		#718	[-]
Posts: 1 (12/28/09 01:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	AnomyBC wrote: 39. The Micronesia girls alliance doesn't team up against Erik in the Final 6 shooting immunity challenge. (If they wanted one of the girls to win, all they had to do was have all five girls shoot at one girl's target. It amazes me that nobody thought to do this.) This. I never understood why they didn't do that. It seemed so obvious! Also, I don't think Russell can beat Mick or Jaison in the finals, according to post-show interviews and stuff.
AnomyBC		#719	[-]
Posts: 4963 (12/28/09 02:03 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Paparazzi wrote: AnomyBC wrote: 39. The Micronesia girls alliance doesn't team up against Erik in the Final 6 shooting immunity challenge. (If they wanted one of the girls to win, all they had to do was have all five girls shoot at one girl's target. It amazes me that nobody thought to do this.) This. I never understood why they didn't do that. It seemed so obvious! Also, I don't think Russell can beat Mick or Jaison in the finals, according to post-show interviews and stuff. As I've been discussing above, I think Russell would have won with 5 or 6 votes and I think the remaining 3 or 4 votes would have went to Jaison. I'm going to attempt to confirm this by asking the players on Facebook. And yeah, I love the Micronesia girls alliance, but they were totally retarded for not doing that.
Thailandsurvivor		#720	[-]
Posts: 9305 (12/28/09 02:34 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Ad freedom fighters united! Remove this ad Now, explain why Alex Bell telling Rob that he is going to vote for him at the final 4 is not #1 on this list.

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