Chris Daughtery played the greatest social game in the shows history and strangely people always dump on him as one of the shows worst players to winner . If
an Alpha Male or Woman played the exact same game as him people here would be saying he is the best ever.
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Who are the most underrated Survivor players ever?
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 GnarlsInCharge |
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Posts: 4609 (01/13/10 08:28 PM) Registered user |
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 ilovekelly752 |
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Posts: 1035 (01/13/10 08:48 PM) |
GnarlsInCharge wrote: That might be a little bit of an exaggeration, but I think he is very underrated, and a great winner, also one of the most well rounded players ever. |
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menelaus |
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Posts: 519 (01/13/10 11:17 PM) |
Chris did make a few mistakes in his game (lying to Julie at F5 and Eliza at F4 were not necessary and hurt his chances at winning their jury votes), but he
was able to get Twila to fuck over her jury performance, which deserves a lot of respect for his gameplay.
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Lexxan |
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Posts: 1228 (01/14/10 03:30 AM) |
Aaron's game (in China) was nearly flawless, and he might've won the game if it weren't for that godawfull "swap your two strongest
players" twist that screwed him and Sherea over.
Jaime Dugan is also quite underrated. It was her idea to throw the Immunity Challenge to get rid of the biggest threat. (Aaron). Coby in Palau, Willard in Palau, Sandra and Lill in PI, Vee, Paschal and Neleh in Marquesas, all underrated. Jake in Thailand played had an extremely good social game, which helped him avoiding an early exit. Helen, who most likely would've won Thailand if she hadn't been so foolish to trust Brian Becky/Cassandra/Dreamz/Brett/Both Natalies are no brainers, and I'd like to add Kelly S. and Monica to that list as well. Deena in Amazon is so undeservingly forgotten, while she was one of the best players in the game. Ryan Aiken, officially the first boot who actually had good gameplay. Gabon also had a host of underrated players: Susie, Paloma, Corinne, Randy, Massive Crystal and I think I can add Gillian to that list as well. Spencer, Sydney, Stephen, Candace, Debbie and especially TYSON from Tocantins are extremely underrated, and so is JT's game here at Sucks. |
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Axie.rsfd |
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Posts: 1036 (01/14/10 07:35 AM) |
I don't think JT's game is underrated, as after all he won. It's just that most people hate him anyway. With good reason!
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XtremeInnovator420 |
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Posts: 2727 (01/14/10 10:09 AM) Registered user |
Corinne and Randy both had bad games and really were more characters than players. Kenny gets an INSANE amount of more flak than he deserves though. And I
don't know if Natalie B is underrated by any means. She ruined her chances of going to the end and winning just because she's a sexist bitch and is a
complete elitist against guys.
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SurferZ |
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Posts: 55 (01/14/10 03:38 PM) |
JT definitely had the best social game ever. Half the cast was playing for him to win.
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seltzer3 |
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Posts: 1637 (01/14/10 04:23 PM) Registered User |
Vecepia definitely (in terms of being viewed by the general public). Realitynewsonline to this day won't give her any credit what
so ever. They always write an article about rules that winners should follow, and always make a backhanded insult about Vee being lucky.
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ilovekelly752 |
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Posts: 1036 (01/14/10 04:25 PM) |
I think V is underrated by the public, but overrated by Sucks. She was a great player. That's proven by the fact that she won. I'd put her in the
middle to lower tier as far as the winners go.
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gretchensucks |
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Posts: 1069 (01/14/10 05:42 PM) |
I've watched and rewatched Marquesas. Vicepia is OVERRATED! Other than making a deal in the final IC she didn't do shit (other than prayers). She
was the greater of Kathy's two goats. Big fucking deal...
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ilovekelly752 |
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Posts: 1037 (01/14/10 05:59 PM) |
gretchensucks wrote:I think she, like Jenna, was smart to know when to flip at the right times, and whose side to go with. Lill and Susie were good at that too, but Vecepia did make her own deals in the final four and three, and Jenna approached Heidi, and I think V and Jenna played better social games than Lill and Susie. Flipping had proven to work very well when done at the right times. It can easily get you to the FTC, and Vecepia's social game got her to win. Rob even commented on it, by saying he knew he and Sean would be Rotu's first targets over V since she was great at sucking up to them. |
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thehalford |
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Posts: 67 (01/14/10 06:29 PM) |
seltzer3 wrote: Well let's face it, that article is pretty much always a copy-paste job with a couple of notes tacked on about the most recent season. So it's the same insult repeated each time. And the funny thing is, if you have a look at their article about why Vee won (http://www.realitynewsonline.com/cgi-bin/ae.pl?mode=1&article=article1871.art&page=1) they were quite complimentary about her gameplay. So it's more than a bit daft. If anything I think they're hard on her because of the whole God thing. |
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gretchensucks |
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Posts: 1072 (01/14/10 06:35 PM) |
ilovekelly752 wrote: She didn't flip anything. All she did was go with the majority. Players like Kathy flipped the game. Vicepia just followed. The only time she flipped anything was during the final immunity challenge. And that's Survivor 101. |
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Posts: 1093 (01/15/10 12:37 PM) |
Vecepia, as I said before, is like a prototype Sandra. Vee was willing to flip, and she flipped when the time was right. Of course, her strategy was not at all
perfect, as she got to F5 with Sean only, as Kathy was a swing vote Vee and Sean didn't get. Vee would be booted without the F4 immunity, easily. Not one
of the best winners, but a good player that managed to make a deal with Neleh as well.
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Posts: 825 (01/15/10 12:41 PM) MESS member |
I feel like Vecepia is a big deal more because she came up with a strategy to win that was NOT based on sticking to a core alliance and hanging on until the
end, which was the precedent set in the first three seasons. I am undecided if she's actually some kind of tactical genius or just someone who lucked into
an improbable combination of circumstances that would allow her to win and capitalized on it.
As for season 3, I absolutely concur that Teresa was the best player that season. She was the only Samburu playing the game and not making enemies. I find it hard to call anyone from Africa a "great" player because both tribes completely threw away the numbers advantage at some point out of sheer spite. I also believe that Lex could not have beaten Ethan or Tom in a final jury vote... although he is a decent player, both times, he let his paranoia get the best of him and allowed him to make some really stupid moves. Ethan won more on charm than strategic prowess, I feel, although he ended up in a phenomenal position in that, barring a Teresa immunity run, he was guaranteed the win at the F5. I will concede that Tom might possibly have been able to squeak out a 4-3 win over him, but Lex and Kim didn't have a chance, and all three were wanting to take Ethan to the final two. My controversial picks: Jenna and Heidi. I think that the fact that they came across as vapid mean girls camouflaged the fact that the two of them were making a lot of the decisions. They were overshadowed by Matt (who I would actually call one of the most overrated players ever) and Rob. I think the best move they made was that they paid attention to who they were putting on the jury. Getting rid of people like Jeanne and Rodger who would never vote for them, and keeping around the young guys that were their target demographic was, I think, good. I am not saying that I think either was a better player than Rob that season, but I absolutely feel they were the #2 and #3 that season (Alex and Deena both overplaying their hands.) |
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SirCrocodilep |
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Posts: 1021 (01/15/10 02:55 PM)
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Lexxan wrote:There is nothing brilliant about it. It is just a common sense with shortcut behind it. |
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SirCrocodilep |
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Posts: 1022 (01/15/10 02:57 PM)
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Greenkiwi wrote:I agree with that. Trish made a mistake to align with Sandra, Christa and Rupert before Burton, Shawn and Michelle. That is HER downfall. |
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LibrasAbandonedChild1 |
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Posts: 1137 (01/15/10 06:18 PM) |
SirCrocodilep wrote: I remember hearing that apparently she made F2 deals with everyone on Drake. <3333333333 |
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SirCrocodilep |
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Posts: 1036 (01/15/10 09:51 PM)
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LibrasAbandonedChild1 wrote: Trish is a good player. I wish we have more of Trish, but I'm just annoyed that she hook up with wrong people. |
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seltzer3 |
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Posts: 1643 (01/15/10 11:15 PM) Registered User |
Trish will always have a special place in my heart for attempting to get rid of that egotistical Rupert pre-merge.
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