During the show there is alot of contestants that would have been givven the final jury votes. But did stupid misstakes that gót them eliminated. I am sure that they could have gotten further by doing something diffrent.
I will start with Terry.
He should have givven away his HII to Shane at the final 5 in return for shane voting out aras and sticking to Terry. Terry would have won the next immuntiy challenge and Danielle would have been going in the next round. Leaving Cirie, shane and Terry in the final 3. Terry would propably defeated both of em. He gets to the fianl tc with shane and all the jury members vote for him.
There is another way. He could have threatend aras with the idol at the first tc after the merge ( Showing him the idol. Saying he would use it at the next Tc to eliminate Aras if Aras did not vote with them) This is what Yul did and it won him a million Dollars.
Another person who could have lasted longer in the game is Sandy from survivor tocantins. OK That she was to dumb to figure out the clue. But she should have scrambled when she was voted out in ep4. She didn't even DO any scrambling at ALL. Isnt that abit weird ? Etheir she wanted to go home or she was dumb. I believe alot of people could have saved themself by playing the game but they were all to stupid..
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Posts: 2042 (01/30/10 01:37 PM) Registered user |
Doubletime wrote:Or better yet, given it to Nick at the merge. They could've bounced the vote back onto Aras much sooner, and then flipped either Bruce, Shane, or Cirie to the La Minas, and he'd have been good to cruise to the end and the win. But he was too dumb to do that. |
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Posts: 748 (01/30/10 02:04 PM) |
Themselves* Yes, it's a funny word because it sounds like a plural.
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Posts: 401 (01/30/10 02:11 PM) Avocado Assassin |
Doubletime wrote:Sandy thought we were all voting for Sydney. |
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Posts: 2 (01/30/10 02:12 PM) |
WoW cool ... 3 replies off the bat =D Great forum |
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Posts: 19 (01/30/10 02:14 PM) |
Terry was right in not giving his idol away, they only would have stabbed him in the back anyway.
Pashcal was an idiot, not casting a vote for that kunt Nelah fost him dearly. |
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Posts: 9691 (01/30/10 02:15 PM) |
You people are taking this thread seriously? You've got to be shitting me.
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Posts: 64 (01/30/10 02:52 PM) |
Thailandsurvivor wrote: ^This |
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Posts: 8856 (01/30/10 03:08 PM) Registered user |
Noobs is so last decade.
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Posts: 2800 (01/30/10 03:08 PM) Registered user |
Doesn't matter, really since Terry could've benefitted from giving it to Courtney at 6. But yeah, people that made stupid mistakes and cost themselves a million dollars? Let me just say this. Hi Russell.
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Posts: 1144 (01/30/10 03:22 PM) |
many people- Make an alliance. |
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Posts: 831 (01/30/10 11:50 PM) I love ShiiAnn |
The ultimate.....(drum roll please)........
. . . . . . . (and guess what, it is not Shii Ann)........ Brandon Quinton of Survivor Africa. He was in a position that most people whom play SURVIVOR salivate over. He had survived the Merge vote. He was essentially teamed up with Kim Powers at that point. Frank and Theresa were paired up . And you had the original Boran tribe of Lex/Tom/EZ/KJ/Kelly that looked like they were going to take it in. Of course, the night preceding, when Clarence had been voted out, a mysterious second vote was cast against Lex. To many, no one would have cared. But not Lex. Remember that witch hunt he went on? By the time TC #8 rolled along, Brandon had played his role well, telling Lex that Kelly had offered herself up as a free agent to the original Samburu tribe in exchange for getting rid of Lex. Lex bought it, offered Brandon the #5 spot in their alliance with the Boran tribe and went into TC thinking he had it in the bag. Kim Powers by all intents and purposes pleaded with Brandon to make this vote, as it would give them all the chance to win the game of Survivor. It would have been the first time someone balked on their alliance because they saw they were on the outs with it. Would have been one hell of a TC, as we can all imagine how Lex's reaction would have been to going out on day 24. but instead....Brandon did the unthinkable..... He voted out Kelly instead. And then in the next episode, he made it clear to the camera- he claimed then (and in subsequent interviews) that he would rather lose the game of Survivor then work with Frank in any way. Told that to Kim Powers. Maybe he did not realize it, but he was also saying in that vote that he was taking away her ONLY shot at winning the $1 million dollars that would have changed all of their lives. Had Brandon voted out Lex, even if he had not gone on to win Survivor, he would have been viewed as one of the best players to never win. If he could get himself into the final 3 with either Frank or Kelly (or both) with him for that final IC, and gotten into the final two with either of them, he may well have won the game; VS Kelly, there would be an unquestionable anti-Kelly jury in Lex/EZ/Tom/KJ (we all know Lex would do everything in his power to bring down Kelly on his side). Vs Frank he could still pull off a win. And the effects this would have had on Survivor Africa would have been tremendous. And even more so with ALL STARS: with Lex/EZ/Tom all going on days 24/27/30, chances are, none of them would be on ALL STARS. Maybe Lex, if he was the most bitter, ultimate loser ever in his conduct both after the show and even in the time period between S3 and casting/filming for All Stars. He would certainly have been so furious and such, that he might have gotten in. Instead, Brandon made the absolute most worst choice in Survivor History- a vote that instead of giving him the best chance at winning the game, he took the course that not only doomed him from winning, but even got him voted out next, which was the ultimate loss in that he wanted to outlast Frank so badly that it must have crushed him like we will never know that in that case......he lost.
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Posts: 1157 (01/30/10 11:59 PM) |
Brandon's move was just choosing morals over money. I know that's not what you should do in the game, but I respect him for it. He knew it could've sent him home, but he was fine with it.
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Posts: 832 (01/31/10 12:04 AM) I love ShiiAnn |
ilovekelly752 wrote: Actually, no I can't respect that. Imagine if Rudy had told Richard "No, I'm not going to work with a queer!" and did everything he could to thwart Hatch in season 1? Unfortunately, this subject is called SURVIVOR and that is the prism that it needs to be seen thru. Was Brandon probably discriminated against by people like Frank in real life? Almost certainly. Did Frank probably represent just about everything Brandon hated? Probably. Guess what- that is a damn good reason to have someone like that around you if your tribe has a few socially liberal people in it (Kim P, Lex, EZ definitely.......KJ maybe a little). Add to your combo someone whom just back stabbed (justly or unjustly) 4 other people, one of them a power hungry sociopath (lex) and you have a very good change at winning the jury vote against either of them. Brandon could be the Survivor: Africa champ.....I am a really good RPGer and I have done scenarios in my head and they consistently put Brandon in the final 4 with himself, Kelly, Kim Powers, and Frank. Assuming they can get rid of Kim Powers, I think Brandon had an excellent chance of winning that last IC (the one won by KJ where they stood on those beams with a hand on a totem pole) and win or lose, there was an excellent chance that if he lost it, that whomever won it (Kelly or Frank) would still take to the final 2; and no matter which of those 2 he was up against, he had an excellent chance of winning the Jury Vote against either.
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Posts: 1158 (01/31/10 12:05 AM) |
Colby and Ian, obviously
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Posts: 1758 (01/31/10 12:43 AM) Registered User |
Cyberball2072 wrote:ilovekelly752 wrote: at the reunion, we found out that Brandon hated Frank more than vise versa |
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Posts: 748 (01/31/10 12:57 AM) |
Brandon was a complete fool. Africa would have been viewed as a classic season if he did what he should of done.
But lets face it the biggest mistake that episode was SHOWING Brandon vote off Kelly. Was CBS not trying to keep the suspense at all? And had Brandon landed in the finals with Kelly, would Ethan/Tom/Lex/KJ have any reason to be bitter toward Kelly considering they voted her off, and she simply saved herself? |
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Posts: 26031 (01/31/10 01:53 AM) Gadabout |
I guess the Sucks board is officially dead. There's no reason anyone should have responded seriously to this thread. Disgusting.
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Posts: 833 (01/31/10 02:10 AM) I love ShiiAnn |
roxbury123 wrote:I've done some templated scenarios about what would have happened if the show continued with Lex voted out on day 24. All these consider the facts that the challenges we saw episodes 10-finale would have remained the same, but the winners (and Lex won a lot of them) would now change. In a nutshell...... Episode 9- to say it would be turmoil in camp afterwords would be an understatement. EZ, Tom and KJ would have been betrayed and would probably let Kelly have it in tribal council. Kelly would be in a split here- either go back with my original tribemates in order to salvage that I am not a traitor; or do I stay with Samburu and forever be a traitor in these 4 peoples eyes. The RC was the paired obstacle course. In this alternate scenario, I think they would insist now that it is paired of 1 male/1 female. They were allowed to pair up however they wanted to, so I am assuming the pairs would be Frank/TBird; Brandon/Kelly (he would want Kelly in order to talk to her); Tom/Kim P (which was the pairing in the original episode anyway); EZ/KJ (also an original pairing. In the original episode, it was Brandon/Frank team that won this RC and would get the movie night. In this alternate scenario, I see Brandon/Kelly or Tom/KP winning it. The IC for this episode was won by Lex, so unless EZ or Tom won it, I see one of them going home. Unless Kelly jumps back to her tribe; Tom wins IC; and the Samburu don't hold together here. I think Kelly would 'get back' with her tribe in order to save face. But if the Samburu's vote Tom because of his votes he got in episode 6, Tom goes home. Otherwise, if Kelly sticks with Samburu, then EZ goes home. Episode 10- In the original episode, it was a Auction food challenge. No big shake ups here. The IC was won by Lex, with Frank literally seconds behind him so it is reasonable to assume that Frank would win this IC. Either Tom/EZ (whomever did not go home last episode) goes this week. Episode 11- Reward Challenge was video's from home where you had to match up your answers with your loved ones. Originally won by Lex, with Tom a close second. KJ, T-Bird, and Little Kim did not do that well in this challenge; unless Brandon or Frank or Kelly's loved ones match up the answers right (what was your most embarrasing moment; what do you like least about yourself; what is your biggest fear; what is your greatest achievement) it could be anyone. Winner got to take one person with them on an African Safari. IC was where you threw your throwing club at plates- person with the last plate remaining won. Originally won by Big Tom. I think Frank would probably have a good chance at winning this challenge. Kim Johnson in all likelihood goes. Episode 12- the penultimate- the RC was some sort of O-Course won by Lex whom got to go to Somali hospital. In this one, it could well be anyone. Lex also won the IC, which was a compilation of former challenges all put together. At this point, something has to give. I don't see Brandon/Kelly/Kim turning on each other, although I am sure they gave their words of honor that they would stick with Samburu. I believe Frank/Tbird vote Little Kim; I think Brandon/Kelly/Kim would have problems but if they were using their heads (and in this case, we are talking about Brandon using his head), they vote out either T-Bird or Little Kim on the grounds that either are well liked and would be hard to win against in the final two. Episode 13- IC was a "Fallen Comrades" test. This was controversial as KJ won it, but later was revealed that Tom and Lex had gotten answers right that were not counted on the show and both got extra $$$ as a result of it. I would have to think based on her thinking cap, that Kelly would probably win this challenge. In all likelihood, T-Bird/Lil Kim (whomever survived last week) would be voted out. the Final IC was where they had to stand on a stand with their two feet on two posts and holding a totem pole. Originally, EZ dropped first, and Lex second and KJ won it. In this challenge, between Kelly/Brandon/Frank, any of the three could win it, so I am going to roll a die right now 1'2 Kelly Wins; 3-4 Frank; 5-6 Brandon......winner is.....Brandon, whom votes out Frank. Final TC would consist of...... opening pitch from Kelly- her opening pitch would be very well thought out. Would empahsize that she did NOT cast the vote for Lex on day 21 (assuming it had not come out yet, under the above scenario I don't think it would). Would emphasize Boran solidarity. Would emphasize that she did not want to do what she did but was forced into it to survive. opening pitch by Brandon- would be thought out, but not as scientific as Kellys would. Would emphasize his attempt to play this game even though he had never camped in his life. would emphasize surviving and stuff. LEX- would be the bitterest, most hate filled juror ever. I believe he would loathe and hate both of the finalists, and would reserve the bulk of his fire for Kelly. Would accuse her of direct betrayal, would accuse her of lying to him directly, talk about how he had been with her from day 1 and she did this to him. Not only would he vote Brandon in a protest vote vs Kelly, but he would have spent the last 15 days doing everything in his power to ensure EZ/Tom/KJ what a traitor and backstabber Kelly was. EZ- based on the original season, Kelly accused EZ in the final two of doing next to nothing to get to know her. So I think EZ's juror question would address that. the direct betrayal by Kelly. Kelly would say pretty much what she had said all along. But I think that with Lex's lobbying (and EZ in his season was very listening of Lex and generally followed his and Tom's lead), I think he would also vote Brandon on the grounds that Kelly directly betrayed him personally and cost him the game; and that in this scenario, EZ went on day 27 and thus only had 7 days to really get to know Brandon and would not see enough to go against him. Tom- I think his juror question would be similar to the one he asked on the show- the one about the hyena going into camp and licking the corn gruel/mush substance and then licks his ass and what it was doing. Light hearted, to be sure. His vote, however, I think with Lex's lobbying, he would vote Brandon again in a direct vote against Kelly. Kim Johnson- I think Kim would be the least hostile of the votes on the jury. I think her juror question would be fair and reasonable. Her vote......I really don't know under the circumstances what they would have been, but I think with Kellys attempt for solidarity of Boran and for other facts, I am going to template that KJ votes Kelly Theresa- I think her jury question would be fair and impartial. And to be honest, would be a vote for the winner. I think she would respect the way Kelly played in making the jump/switch to them and would appreciate it. votes Kelly. Kim Powers- again, her jury vote would be fair, impartial. And since she has been friendly with both, I am forced to flip a coin here.....she votes (heads Brandon/Tails Kelly).....KELLY. Frank- I think Frank's question would be the exact same one. Under these conditions, where he expressed his willingness in the original season to work with Brandon if he had to, and if he made it to day 38, I think he would bear no ill will so I am forced to flip a coin now........same conditions as above...Heads Brandon/Tails Kelly.......Kelly Obviously, this is a 4/3 vote with several votes that were very close and could have gone Brandon, so I flip a coin now to see if this truely withstands scrutiny......tails again, so under this scenario.......Kelly wins Survivor Africa. Brandon would be seen as the first Rob Cesterino, in being the best player not to win. The impact this would have had on All stars would be tremendous. With Lex/Tom/EZ out early, I don't believe Tom/EZ makes All Stars. I think Lex would, under the 'bitter, hatefilled juror' that not only would let it be known his hate for Brandon/Kelly during the show, after he was voted out in his round of publicity AND in the year and half between then and the time they started pre-production for All Stars. Brandon could get the slot if he wanted it, again he said in his post-survivor interviews that he never wants to camp every again, but I think making it to the final two would bring him back one last time. If Brandon did not go on all stars, I imagine his slot would be filled by Jeff Varner, which would have had a huge impact on All Stars, as I believe he was responsible for most of the leaks that came out on that season. Kelly would be a shoe in for All Stars, dropping either Amber or Jenna Lewis.
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Posts: 210 (01/31/10 03:29 AM) |
Denise cost two other people an extremely good shot at a million dollars. Erik and Peih Gee. One of the most well liked players in Erik and the person who it was agreed amongst the at the time 5 members of the jury (unanimously) that they would vote for at the FTC had she made it in Peih Gee.
Denise flips on Amanda, Todd, Courtney and Erik, Denise and Peih Gee all vote for Courtney, instead of Todd knowing that a) If push comes to shove and rocks are drawn, they are keeping the weakest player possible in the game, as she will be immune in the rock drawing tiebreaker b) None will flip in the revote c) Peih Gee has immunity, TAC (Todd, Amanda, Courtney) are voting for Erik, leaving Denise as the only one of the three who could pull a rock (Denise ignores this) Theoretically, one of Todd or Amanda pull the rock. For the purposes of this, we'll just say Amanda did. In the immunity challenge, Erik would win the ninja star throw, the ball bouncer and probably the balut challenge to win immunity. Denise, winning reward, would take the new members of her alliance, Erik and Peih Gee on reward. Todd, singled out as a strategic threat to try and flip Denise, would be voted out. Peih Gee, to stop Denise flipping, at a revote if they led her on to vote for Courtney, votes for Courtney and revotes for Todd, sending him home. So it turns out like this Erik: TODD Denise: TODD Peih Gee: COURTNEY Todd: PEIH GEE Courtney: PEIH GEE F4 is Courtney, Erik, Peih Gee and Denise. Peih Gee would win immunity, guaranteeing her and Erik's place in the F3 as they would be voting Courtney, and even if Denise aligned with Courtney and forced a tiebreaker against Erik, she would still lose, because, well, she's Courtney and Courtney has no idea how to make fire. F3 is Peih Gee, Denise and Erik JAIME - Locked in vote for Erik JR - Could go either way between Peih Gee and Erik, depending on jury performance. Probably Erik FROSTI - Peih Gee JAMES - Would appreciate the competitor in both Peih Gee and Erik, would give it to Peih Gee if she gave a good performance, but if not, then Erik AMANDA - Erik TODD - Peih Gee COURTNEY - Would probably throw her vote away by voting for Denise. If it came to revote, then Erik 3-3-1, Ladies and gentlemen we have a tie 4-3-0, Winner of Survivor: China Erik Huffman. Lividmanda and James still would have been on FvF, though I think that they might've wanted Erik and Peih Gee (replacing Rupert and Horsielle, Candice being put on the Villans) on HvV.
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Posts: 171 (01/31/10 01:46 PM) |
Aras and Danielle need to die for their "cockblocking" of Terry, the best Survivor ever who didn't win. If I ever see Aras on the street I will kick Jim the balls and spit in his face:
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