1st person voted out -Parvati
If James didn't injure his finger
James will win the individual immunities
If Kathy didn't quit
Kathy might not make in the merge
If Penner didn't injure his leg
Jonathan and Eliza alliance in Airai

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If Jonny fairly didn't quit
1st person voted out -Parvati If James didn't injure his finger James will win the individual immunities If Kathy didn't quit Kathy might not make in the merge If Penner didn't injure his leg Jonathan and Eliza alliance in Airai |
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JLK Name wrote:No. He won none in China, none in FvF before his injury, and it's unlikely he would win any. |
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AveryC |
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Removing the idol is futile so I won't bother with that.
Fairplay If Fairplay stays then it's at Parvati's expense. This has been confirmed multiple times. Outside of that nothing else is concrete. Jonathan There's conflicting infomation here, but several things are definate. Jonathan/Eliza planned on targetting Parvati/James. They had Jason and Kathy loved Jonathan. But Parvati had secured Natalie and possibly Alexis by association. A double boot would force them to go to Tribal. The following are all possible: - Jonathan/Eliza/Kathy/Jason get Alexis's vote and vote out Parvati. - Parvati/James target Jason, which Kathy would be interested in going for. - Parvati turns on James to spare herself, and he goes. - Parvati turns on James to spare herself, but leaves anyway in a split vote. - A tie occurs and anybody could feasibly go. From here another double boot would occur at some point since Kathy probably stays. If the Bottle returns (which is likely IMO) then there's a possibility Cirie misses the merge. The merge itself is predictable. Kathy Kathy staying prevented another double boot that probably would occur at the Final 12 (or Final 11 in what actually happened). Kathy indicated that Jason would have gone home in this case. She takes his place in the merged tribe. James It's now a Final 3 instead of a Final 2. It's unclear how the game would progress from here. If it plays out the same Cirie or Amanda wins. |
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The Very Insane Shark |
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LSiani wrote:No. Parvati would've definitely been the first boot had JFP not quit. |
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And if Parvati is the first boot, the entire game changes. For the worse, because BWB > all.
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DarrahColleenJerri |
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Episode 1: Parvati (Ami, Cirie, Eliza, Jon, Jonathan, Yau Man) Eliza (Amanda, James, Ozzy, Parvati)
Parvati is targeted because Jonathan is in charge of the alliance and doesn't like Parvati. Episode 2: Chet (Alexis, Erik, Jason, Joel, Mary, Mikey, Natalie) Jason (Chet, Kathy, Tracy) Because there is no immunity idol Mikey wouldn't be acting all crazy and making Joel distrust him. Chet is clearly the weakest on the tribe and is voted out. Episode 3: Amanda (Ami, Cirie, Eliza, Jon, Jonathan, Yau Man) Eliza (Amanda, James, Ozzy) James and Ozzy are needed because the fans are stronger than the Favourites thought they'd be so Amanda is voted out. Episode 4: Mary (Alexis, Erik, Joel, Kathy, Natalie, Tracy) Kathy (Jason, Mary, Mikey) Mary and Mikey are very close now and Mikey is more vocal around camp. Tracy convinces Joel that Mikey is a threat to his leadership. Mary is sacrificed. Episode 5: NuAirai: Natalie, James, Tracy, Yau Man, Cirie, Mikey, Eliza, Joel. NuMalakal: Ozzy, Alexis, Jonathan, Kathy, Jon, Ami, Erik, Jason. Jason (Alexis, Ami, Erik, Jon, Jonathan, Kathy, Ozzy) Jon (Jason) NuAirai would be stronger in the puzzle portions of challenges and would probably beat NuMalakal in this challenge. Ami and Jonathan immediately get Kathy on their side while Alexis, Erik and Ozzy bond. Jason is an outsider and is not saved by either side. Episode 6: Kathy (Alexis, Ami, Erik, Jon, Jonathan, Ozzy) Alexis (Kathy)
The stepping pole challenge would be dominated by NuAirai because they have the small members in Eliza, Natalie and Yau Man and the strong members in James, Joel and Mikey who could carry them across. Ami, Jon and Jonathan could stick with Kathy and vote out Alexis, Erik or Ozzy but I think they would see that she is unstable and they need to win challenges so they would boot her instead. Episode 7: Double Boot episode.
Mikey (Cirie, Eliza, James, Joel, Natalie, Tracy, Yau Man) Cirie (Mikey)
Cirie, Eliza and Yau Man would definitely pull in Tracy and probably Natalie as well. Joel and Mikey distrust eachother already and James would be a non entitiy. Mikey would probably target the weakest member of the tribe in Cirie which is never going to happen and the rest would vote out him.
Ozzy (Alexis, Ami, Erik, Jon, Jonathan) Jon (Ozzy) Ami and Erik would keep NuMalakal in the challenges but they would fall apart in the puzzle bit again with only Jonathan maybe able to be competitive. Ami, Jon and Jonathan would have no desire to keep Ozzy and by this time I think they would realise that they were going to go into the merge down on numbers and that they would have to rely on their alliance members in the other tribe to stick with them. Alexis isn't going to force a tie for Ozzy and even Erik probably wouldn't do that for his idol Ozzy. Episode 8
Challenge: Erik sat out. James sat out. Bottle Twist. Erik (Alexis, Ami, Jon, Jonathan) Alexis (Erik)
Alexis, Ami, Jon and Jonathan would be no match in the bridge challenge for NuAirai. Alexis and Erik would be the only two options and we saw how Erik acted when he was on the chopping block he would probably sell Alexis out somehow, however, I don't think Ami, Jon or Jonathan would fall for that ala Ozzy and he'd go instead of Alexis. Alexis (Ami, Jon, Jonathan) Jon (Alexis)
Going through the motions. Episode 9: MERGE: Ami, Cirie, Eliza, James, Joel, Jon, Jonathan, Natalie, Tracy, Yau Man.
Joel immune. James (Ami, Cirie, Eliza, Jon, Jonathan, Natalie, Tracy, Yau Man) Cirie (James, Joel)
Ami, Jon and Jonathan join up with the Cirie-Eliza-Natalie-Tracy-Yau Man pre existing NuAirai alliance. Joel wins immunity so James is voted out. Episode 10: Joel immune. Jon (Cirie, Eliza, Joel, Natalie, Tracy, Yau Man) Natalie (Ami, Jon, Jonathan)
I can't see Joel giving up in the immunity challenge if he knows he is going to be the one to go and being a fireman he'd be strong and disciplined. At this point the alliance would have a leadership feud between Cirie and Jonathan, with Eliza, Natalie and Tracy solidly with Cirie and Ami and Jon solidly with Jonathan. Eliza is bound to Ami and Yau Man would be in between Cirie and Jonathan. The only option that Cirie could confidently pull off without worrying about others flipping would be targeting Jonathans ally Jon to keep Eliza happy and Yau Man happy that their friends aren't going. Episode 11: Joel immune. Jonathan (Cirie, Eliza, Joel, Natalie, Tracy) Cirie (Ami, Jonathan) Natalie (Yau Man) Joel is clearly the strongest in a physical challenge but could perhaps be challenged by Jonathan or Ami. The alliance has totally split up now, and even though Eliza is friends with Ami and Jonathan, she has the numbers in an alliance with Cirie, Natalie and Tracy who don't trust Jonathan. Yau Man would be left out of the loop now that they have the numbers. Episodee 12: Yau Man immune. Joel (Ami, Cirie, Eliza, Natalie, Tracy, Yau Man) Ami (Joel)
Challenge that the analytical Yau Man would probably win. Joel the huge immunity threat is finally taken out. Episode 13: Eliza immune. Ami (Cirie, Eliza, Natalie, Tracy, Yau Man) Cirie (Ami)
Agile and quick Eliza would probably win this challenge although anyone could win this. Ami is seen as an immunity threat and would be voted out unanimously. Episode 14:
Natalie immune. Yau Man (Cirie, Eliza, Natalie, Tracy) Tracy (Yau Man) Natalie or Eliza would probably win this challenge. Jury threat Yau Man would be cut loose. Cirie immune. Tracy (Cirie, Eliza, Natalie) Natalie (Tracy)
Cirie would probably win the challenge that was basically set up for her to win. Tracy would probably be cut free due to her being more of a game player and Natalie being more bitchier. Final 3: Cirie vs. Eliza vs. Natalie.
James: Natalie
Jon: Cirie Jonathan: Cirie Joel: Natalie Ami: Eliza Yau Man: Cirie Tracy: Cirie It could go anyway but I think Cirie would end up winning as she would probably be the one running the show if this scenario played out. |
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DarrahColleenJerri wrote:Had there been no idols or quits, I think you're absolutely right with these three. sigh...what could have been... |
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The switch seems very arbitrary to me, though. Why does Jason end up in NuMalakal again?
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Jonathan's injury was pivotal. His departure changed everything and the girls would not have won in the end.
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streetlightrox |
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just looking at these makes me think how much more epic FvF would've been if cirie had won... |
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XtremeInnovator420 |
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This is reminding me of when FvF started how a bunch of people had their ideal F3 as Jonathan/Eliza/Ami. And that would've been awesome, lol.
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It would be really amazing to see a completely random F3, though. Something like Jason/Kathy/Fairplay. Jason victory lulz!
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Lexxan |
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I love the speculating, but I agree with Cirie having the highest odds of winning.
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rosenheart |
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what a weird thread. there's way too much unknown ti have any diea. what could have happened.
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