CR ranks Survivor's 371 Survivor Characters - FINISHED!!! in Clubs that Suck. No, Really. Forum

0 Points

CR ranks Survivor's 371 Survivor Characters - FINISHED!!!

Started By	Comment
cardswin5		#2001	[-]
Posts: 2452 (02/05/10 03:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The spontaneous rally will begin at 1:45. Remove this ad I actually really liked that update, I've always felt that Tom was extremely overrated and only got to the end because of immunites and yet Sucks is in love with him for some reason. And yes his final tribal was good for manipulating the jury but I agree with CR he comes across very vile/arrogant. If Tom had been in the minority then Tom would have been Terry before we even had him.
chapera rocks		#2002	[-]
Posts: 12868 (02/05/10 03:52 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	cardswin5 wrote: I actually really liked that update, I've always felt that Tom was extremely overrated and only got to the end because of immunites and yet Sucks is in love with him for some reason. And yes his final tribal was good for manipulating the jury but I agree with CR he comes across very vile/arrogant. If Tom had been in the minority then Tom would have been Terry before we even had him. OMW THANK YOU! Lol, it's so rare for someone to agree with me on this. <3
Thailandsurvivor		#2003	[-]
Posts: 9774 (02/05/10 03:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sugar played a great game until the final 6. The only people she even had a chance of beating were Crystal and Susie. She votes Crystal out, fine. Who knows, it could be a final two? Then, she targets Susie at the final 4 because Bob and Matty are more deserving. I was pissed off she voted out Crystal and Ken, but we knew she was not trying to win at that point. She didn't even try to win at the final TC. If you aren't playing the game to win, you aren't playing for the right strategic reasons that we are judging everyone else on. If you aren't trying to win, then everyone who actually tried to win should be higher than you.
Axie.rsfd		#2004	[-]
Posts: 2069 (02/05/10 03:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	chapera rocks wrote: Axie wrote: Indeed. Sugar can't rank above so many good players just because she blindsided Ace (which wasn't even her idea), blindsided Randy (who was going out anyway), and blindsided Crystal (and I believe she would go home without Sugar's intervention anyway). Sugar really can't get it above B- on all three categories IMO and I can't imagine why on Earth she's top 10. I will try my best to explain when she comes up. I could be biased because I'm one of the few who likes Sugar, but I'm trying to be objective here. To be fair, I think many people (not naming names since I know some people actually thought she sucked strategically the whole way or at least claim to) drastically changed their opinion of her as soon as she took out Massive Crystal. And that is more of a fanboyism reaction than anything. After that, anything she did was the worst thing ever and there has been a lot of spin going on. I will say that while I think taking out Kenny would have been smarter, taking out Crystal wasn't such a bad move simply because if she had gone to the final 3 with Crystal and Kenny, there would be no way she could be considered the best player. I was actually rooting for Matty on Gabon, so I never changed my opinion on Sugar. I don't even hate her on Gabon (I DESPISE her post-game self, though). I just don't think she had a great game. Also, why does Tom come off as vile and arrogant for some people? He was manipulative but I've never seen him as arrogant (even though he's not modest either), he was pretty nice all around. Well, each to their own, I guess!
cardswin5		#2005	[-]
Posts: 2453 (02/05/10 03:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	chapera rocks wrote: cardswin5 wrote: I actually really liked that update, I've always felt that Tom was extremely overrated and only got to the end because of immunites and yet Sucks is in love with him for some reason. And yes his final tribal was good for manipulating the jury but I agree with CR he comes across very vile/arrogant. If Tom had been in the minority then Tom would have been Terry before we even had him. OMW THANK YOU! Lol, it's so rare for someone to agree with me on this. <3 I was glad you wrote that because I didn't feel like being attacked by giant walls of text. And I would have voted for Katie I think over Tom because she was more proactive strategically even if her plans didn't work, because Tom never had plans that weren't him/Ian/Katie to the end. Plus I kind of have the same attitude about people that Katie does so even if Tom really is "nice" it comes off looking really fake to me.
Axie.rsfd		#2006	[-]
Posts: 2070 (02/05/10 03:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	chapera rocks wrote: Axie wrote: JackSparrowBauer wrote: I get your reasoning for putting JT over Tom with your explanations, I just really disagree. X I understand all of your arguments, CR. I just don't believe Tom was that oblivious, Ian aside, that's not how I watched Palau on both times I watched it. Yes, Ian played him and Ian would have won Palau if he didn't feel so guilty about betraying him (btw, anyone that says Tom bullied Ian into quitting needs to DIAF). But Ian aside, I believe Tom's game was top 5 material, even if not perfect. Who ever played a perfect game anyway? Glad we can at least agree to disagree. <3 It's hard to argue that Jenn/Gregg/Katie would be better allies than Caryn/Steph, IMO. Tom made the wrong decision and stuck to his alliance even though it didn't benefit him. That's just how I see it; he could have made better decisions. Even if he did know what was going on, which I don't believe is entirely correct ... I think the truth is somewhere in between, he still made a poor decision when he decided to vote off Steph and was about to vote out Caryn. That's why he isn't top tier for me. Top tier for me in this ranking is probably the top 7 players. I don't disagree about Steph, but I guess Tom was, too, threatened by her presence (as he should be <3). Steph would be loyal to him, but it looks like Steph would be loyal to anyone willing to keep her when she was in the position she was. She didn't have an ally and I guess she would have agreed with anything to stay on the game. Maybe that's why Tom voted her out, but that's speculation of my part. It's always easy to look things in hindsight, after all. Just see all those people saying Candice's game sucked!
ilovekelly752		#2007	[-]
Posts: 1170 (02/05/10 04:25 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Tom's placement is accurate. The title clearly says strategically in capital letters, and Tom's strategic game only took him to fourth place, and that's not even counting the fact that Koror dominated in the challenges. Sugar was a better strategist. I disagree with CR a lot, but I completely agree here. Also, Chris's FTC was not the best ever. Ami and Scout totally saw through that. The other five probably still would've voted for Chris even without an FTC. Ami might've too. Last Edited By: ilovekelly752 02/05/10 04:30 PM. Edited 2 times.
Axie.rsfd		#2008	[-]
Posts: 2075 (02/05/10 04:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	ilovekelly752 wrote: Tom's placement is accurate, if not slightly too high. The title clearly says strategically in capital letters, and Tom's strategic game only took him to fourth place, and that's not even counting the fact that Koror dominated in the challenges. Sugar was a better strategist. Also, Chris's FTC was not the best ever. Ami and Scout totally saw through that. The other five probably still would've voted for Chris even without an FTC. Ami might've too. I usually like your posts, but there are so many things wrong with this one!
ilovekelly752		#2009	[-]
Posts: 1171 (02/05/10 04:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Axie wrote: ilovekelly752 wrote: Tom's placement is accurate, if not slightly too high. The title clearly says strategically in capital letters, and Tom's strategic game only took him to fourth place, and that's not even counting the fact that Koror dominated in the challenges. Sugar was a better strategist. Also, Chris's FTC was not the best ever. Ami and Scout totally saw through that. The other five probably still would've voted for Chris even without an FTC. Ami might've too. I usually like your posts, but there are so many things wrong with this one! LOL, sorry
JackSparrowBauer		#2010	[-]
Posts: 4846 (02/05/10 06:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The spontaneous rally will begin at 1:45. Remove this ad Thailandsurvivor wrote: Sugar played a great game until the final 6. The only people she even had a chance of beating were Crystal and Susie. She votes Crystal out, fine. Who knows, it could be a final two? Then, she targets Susie at the final 4 because Bob and Matty are more deserving. I was pissed off she voted out Crystal and Ken, but we knew she was not trying to win at that point. She didn't even try to win at the final TC. If you aren't playing the game to win, you aren't playing for the right strategic reasons that we are judging everyone else on. If you aren't trying to win, then everyone who actually tried to win should be higher than you. X. CR, no offense or anything, but you putting Sugar in the top 10 is definitely biased. Objectively, she wasn't even not trying to win, she was ACTIVELY trying to NOT win. You say Steph threw her game away, but Sugar did it worse. So the fact that Sugar wasn't trying to win puts her in the top 10, while since Steph IS trying to win, she's 3rd from last? That's backwards.When someone is actively trying to not win, that is not good gameplay, that is retarded and irrational gameplay.
chapera rocks		#2011	[-]
Posts: 12871 (02/05/10 06:54 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JackSparrowBauer wrote: Thailandsurvivor wrote: Sugar played a great game until the final 6. The only people she even had a chance of beating were Crystal and Susie. She votes Crystal out, fine. Who knows, it could be a final two? Then, she targets Susie at the final 4 because Bob and Matty are more deserving. I was pissed off she voted out Crystal and Ken, but we knew she was not trying to win at that point. She didn't even try to win at the final TC. If you aren't playing the game to win, you aren't playing for the right strategic reasons that we are judging everyone else on. If you aren't trying to win, then everyone who actually tried to win should be higher than you. X. CR, no offense or anything, but you putting Sugar in the top 10 is definitely biased. Objectively, she wasn't even not trying to win, she was ACTIVELY trying to NOT win. You say Steph threw her game away, but Sugar did it worse. So the fact that Sugar wasn't trying to win puts her in the top 10, while since Steph IS trying to win, she's 3rd from last? That's backwards.When someone is actively trying to not win, that is not good gameplay, that is retarded and irrational gameplay. Perhaps. I don't think I'm being biased, and there are huge differences between Steph and Sugar's game that are completely obvious to me. After you read Sugar's entry, if you still feel that way, then write it off. Not the end of the world.
CrystalOwnage		#2012	[-]
Posts: 6550 (02/05/10 06:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I'm still gonna give CR a chance to explain his Sugar placement before attacking it and calling him biased like others are.
JackSparrowBauer		#2013	[-]
Posts: 4849 (02/05/10 07:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I'm pretty positive I know CR's rationale for ranking Sugar this high. If I'm wrong, then I stand corrected. When is the next update?
FarnsworthFan		#2014	[-]
Posts: 274 (02/05/10 07:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	stops speaking with southern accent now that JSB is doing it
Axie.rsfd		#2015	[-]
Posts: 2079 (02/05/10 07:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	CrystalOwnage wrote: I'm still gonna give CR a chance to explain his Sugar placement before attacking it and calling him biased like others are. This. I don't think I will be convinced, though.
novaya		#2016	[-]
Posts: 1750 (02/05/10 07:15 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sugar was a GREAT player in that she was able to go from most pathetic and un-picked at a tribal switch into THE power-broker of Gabon. People did what she wanted, and all thought she was their friend and ally. People just got Sugarenvious as she voted them out: Old Kota, then Old Fang. She brought two clear old UTR borewhores with her to the finals -- not to mention borewhores who fucked people over, too (Susie fucked the Kotas and then Ken/Crystal and Bob screwed over Randy and was never a strategist). Fang wouldn't vote a Kota and Kota would vote a Kota. But taking Matty or Kenny to the finals would have been an auto-loss for Sugar, too. Keeping Crystal in would have given Ken/Crystal the power -- with Susie -- to potentially cut Bob AND her own damn self. She's not be total brills and had a shit FTC performance, but Sugar > Amanda (either season) all day long. Last Edited By: novaya 02/05/10 07:17 PM. Edited 1 times.
JackSparrowBauer		#2017	[-]
Posts: 4852 (02/05/10 07:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	No. Amanda's FTC performances > Susie's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob's > Sugar's
JackSparrowBauer		#2018	[-]
Posts: 4853 (02/05/10 07:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FarnsworthFan wrote: stops speaking with southern accent now that JSB is doing it lalz I'm not speaking in a Southern accent YET... =P
Mikester		#2019	[-]
Posts: 8564 (02/05/10 07:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	JackSparrowBauer wrote: No. Amanda's FTC performances > Susie's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob's > Sugar's So true. The Gabon f3 was one of the most pathetic things to watch, ever. I wasn't at all surprised that Susie got three votes because after watching their performances, that's how I would have voted, too.
novaya		#2020	[-]
Posts: 1751 (02/05/10 07:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The spontaneous rally will begin at 1:45. Remove this ad JackSparrowBauer wrote: No. Amanda's FTC performances > Susie's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bob's > Sugar's I'm not talking FTC. I'm talking strategic game. Sugar did way more than Amanda did in either season. End of story.

<< Previous Topic Next Topic >>

Yuku free message boards

CR ranks Survivor's 371 Survivor Characters - FINISHED!!!