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Jedijake |
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We better see a back story to Jacob, the statue, Black Smokey, and the Black Rock next season to put it all straight.
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Screerider |
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ABC.Com's official episode recap says it's Taweret. Who writes those things?
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GeckoIsGod |
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Screerider wrote:Yeah the lostpedia people were having a shit-fit that the article on the statue was renamed to Giant Statue of Taweret yesterday, but I see it's back to just Giant Statue today. I don't think Darlton have any input into the recaps, but if it's not official, I wonder why someone would have just assumed it was Taweret and put that in there. I know in the last ABC podcast they interviewed Michael Emerson and his theory was that it was Taweret so maybe someone at ABC just ran with that idea... |
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GeckoIsGod |
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Well it seems that in the Wired magazine May 2009 issue (edited by JJ Abrams and full of puzzles) there was one particular encrypted puzzle that when solved
read:
THEFOURTOEDSTATUEISTAWERET so I guess that pretty much ends any debate. |
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Screerider |
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^ Unless someone starts a thread about the statue. :)
Speaking of Egypt... Still going through my Games magazines. In the May/June 1978 issue, there's an article about the Egyption game of Senet. It could possibly be "the oldest board game in the world". It bares some resemblance to Backgammon, what with opposing players' pieces moving through the board. The squares on the board, like in Rebirth, however represent different aspects of the soul's journey. In Senet, it's fighting the enemies of Osiris after one's death, in an effort to join with Osiris. One player is the dead soul, called the "ba", the other is "the powers of darkness".
I should scan the image in the magazine, as every square of the board is illustrated. The pieces, called "dancers", are moved through the board like an "S". The light player, goes from 1 to 30. The dark, from 30 to 1.
_1 _2 _3 _4 _5 _6 _7 _8 _9 10
20 19 18 17 16 15 14 13 12 11 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 Like in Rebirth, each square, called a "house" has a meaning. I couldn't find a good site for all this, so I'm cutting an pasting from a blog post I found:
Four sticks, called "fingers", are thrown to determine the numbers of squares moved. They're light on one side, dark on the other. The number thrown is the number of light sides facing up. If all dark, you get a 5. You keep throwing until you get a 2 or a 3, at which point you use all your thrown numbers to move your pieces. (It's not throw, move, throw, move, but throw throw throw move move move. This way you can reorder your numbers to your advantage. Each piece can only enter the board on a 1. The light player's dancers have to stop at square 26, "Beauty House." It's when embalming occurs. Anyhow, rather than get into the finer points of the rules (because there are actually many different versions - no one knows the real rules for sure), the mythology behind the game is interesting. When someone dies, his ba begins it's journey into the realm of the dead, called "duat". His journey leads him to the judgment hall of Osiris, lord of the dead. There, he has to prove he's led a life free from sin. His heart is placed on a scale, to be weighed against a "feather of truth". If it did not balance, his heart was immediately thrown to a crocodile-headed monster, called the "devouress". If his heart balances, he is "justified" and is absorbed into the body of Osiris. As a gift, his soul is now allowed to "go forth by day", which means he can take the journey on Ra's "sun ship" as the sun rises, and go back to Earth. He can wander about in any form he wishes, but at nightfall, must get back on the sun ship, to go back to the netherworld. Senet appears in the The Book of the Dead, which also shows images of ba returning as human-headed birds, and also of the heart balancing the feather.
I'm guessing the "feathers of truth" come from Hurleybirds.
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PoChop |
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I ran across this tidbit. Perhaps everything that's happening is the result of the universe self-correcting. In other words, the universe is attempting
to rid itself of any time travel paradox by eventually causing the initial disupting event to never have happened. And that's what the show is about. So
the question would be what was the original disrupting event? It may not have happened on the island. It might have been someone at Ann Arbor or Oxford that
got everything out of kilter.
Hans Moravec glosses this version of Niven's Law as follows: There is a spookier possibility. Suppose it is easy to send messages to the past, but that forward causality also holds (i.e. past events determine the future). In one way of reasoning about it, a message sent to the past will "alter" the entire history following its receipt, including the event that sent it, and thus the message itself. Thus altered, the message will change the past in a different way, and so on, until some "equilibrium" is reached--the simplest being the situation where no message at all is sent. Time travel may thus act to erase itself (an idea Larry Niven fans will recognize as "Niven's Law") |
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Screerider |
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I remember that. Of course, the "no message sent" equilibrium would also have to have changed from the original timeline in order to prevent the message from being sent, which wasn't the case originally.
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Stranded |
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I should be writing a paper for class this weekend, so I really can't afford to read through the entire thread, but....
Has anyone put out the theory that Jacob's enemy IS the smoke monster? He can only appear as dead people (Eko's Brother, Alex, Locke), and this is why Jacob told Hurley that he knows that Hurley isn't crazy. Hurley has only seen dead people in his "delusions" - Eko, Charlie, Ana Lucia. |
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PoChop |
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An interesting tidbit courtesy of Mark Steyn of all people.
In 1785, the British philosopher Jeremy Bentham began working on his famous "Pan-opticon"-a radial prison in which a central "inspector" could see all the prisoners, but they could never see him. |
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Riliss |
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I believe he also destroyed the base of the autobots.
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Goosehead |
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The point of the panopticon was that it was the most efficient form of prison because you didn't even need anyone in the tower ... the inmates would simply
act as if they were being watched. This has been used by contemporary social theorists to describe a society of ubiquitous (non)surveillance, depending on how
you look at it.
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Goosehead |
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double post.
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Vachina |
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Can I just say how fucking awesome this show is that with just 18 hours left in a 100-some-hour run...and after years of thousands of fans trying, there is STILL not ONE "grand unifying theory" out there on the internets that makes everyone (or even really anyone) say "a-ha, yeah that's it, it's all figured out." That's quite an accomplishment. Fucking brilliant.
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nic2200 |
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Vachina wrote:Amen |
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Moving the Island Made it Go Underwater? | ||
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OK. Pardon if this was posted already, but when we saw Locke move the island before, the people in the helicopter saw the island sort of "bloop" and go underwater.
Is it possible that when you move the island another alternative timeline is born? And that when Juliet hit the bomb someone ELSE moved the island? And that is why Jack, from his window seat on the plane, the viewers saw the island underwater? I know. Weird and all. Just wanted your thoughts. |
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PoChop |
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The bomb could have jarred the donkey wheel into moving by itself, thus moving the island. OR the explosion didn't really happen on the island as it would have broken some laws of causality, time, or physics, causing the island to jump an instant before the bomb actually went off. Maybe another example of the self-correcting and adjusting universe. No matter what the Losties are trying to do maybe they can't really change the eventual outcome of what is supposed to be.
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Screerider |
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Kate Sera, Sera
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phantomkp |
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Does anyone else here have the feeling that when the temple went into alarm mode, and the started spreading around ash, and getting prepared for an attack...thats its Jacob they fear, not the MIB?
They didnt get concerned until they heard Jacob died...maybe they are concerned about what he will do after death than they were when he was alive? If it was truly the MIB and his smoke monster they were concerned about now, wouldnt they have always had ash around the temple? and wouldnt it be suspect that MIB/smokey have been travelling around the temple's underground for years now? Maybe what they fear now is what Jacob as smokey will do? I just dont see how Jacob being killed will allow the MIB to do anything to the temple he wasnt already able to do all these years... |
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ghostbusted |
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Could it be that Jacob had the temple under his protection and MIB couldn't do anything to it under the same rules that had him needing to find a loophole? Now, with Jacob dead, maybe MIB is no longer prevented from taking action.
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