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FeliciaM7		#921	[-]
Posts: 9662 (02/07/10 09:25 PM) Once you go Jack... Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The spontaneous rally will begin at 1:45. Remove this ad Oh I do have something to say about Ben. There weren't two Bens either - a corpse and an image of him inhabited by something. I think Ben and Sayid are different...
phantomkp		#922	[-]
Posts: 931 (02/08/10 12:03 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	No, i was quoting you about Locke...i was quoting you to discuss the idea that Sayid is "inhabited". Thats why i was trying to compare him to Ben..for the reasons i listed. Forget Locke's bodies! :P I was pointing out how Sayid's and Ben's situations are similar. Why dont you think they are?
FeliciaM7		#923	[-]
Posts: 9667 (02/08/10 12:50 AM) Once you go Jack... Reply Quote More Recent Posts	What I meant is Sayid & Ben are different from Locke. I also think there may be a difference between Sayid's healing and little Ben's healing. I think the healing changed Ben - actually we were told by Richard that Ben will never be the same (innocence taken from him) - but I don't think little Ben technically ever died or is/was inhabited by something/someone. That is what I think now. Subject to change. I do think something different happened to Sayid and he is inhabited by umm I have no fkn idea. I don't think we have to worry about him losing his innocence though. :Þ JMO Last Edited By: FeliciaM7 02/08/10 01:13 AM. Edited 1 times.
Mickey K2		#924	[-]
Posts: 1136 (02/08/10 07:15 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FeliciaM7 wrote: What I meant is Sayid & Ben are different from Locke. I also think there may be a difference between Sayid's healing and little Ben's healing. I think the healing changed Ben - actually we were told by Richard that Ben will never be the same (innocence taken from him) - but I don't think little Ben technically ever died or is/was inhabited by something/someone. That is what I think now. Subject to change. I do think something different happened to Sayid and he is inhabited by umm I have no fkn idea. I don't think we have to worry about him losing his innocence though. :Þ JMO X
pussycow		#925	[-]
Posts: 6323 (02/08/10 11:29 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah I agree. There is no comparison between Locke and Ben/Sayid. I also agree that there is most likely a difference between Ben and Sayid. What I find kind of funny as that the temple people clearly knew something was wrong with the "healing pool" yet they tossed Sayid in there anyway Last Edited By: pussycow 02/08/10 11:41 AM. Edited 1 times.
pleasepassthepork		#926	[-]
Posts: 822 (02/08/10 11:46 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	In the Kimmel interview they admitted that Sayid is inhabited, but didn't confirm who/what with.
chidelta		#927	[-]
Posts: 1294 (02/08/10 01:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	nic2200 wrote: Phantom.... it's not people's theories that are in question. It's the ones that say that their theory is OBVIOUSLY the answer and there is no other possibility. I don't believe I have ever seen you do that. However there have been several posters on this thread claiming they have it all figured out and their theory is the real answer because things are obvious and a foregone conclusion. Even the actors in the show are saying that they are confused and have no idea what the ending is going to be and they have exposure to about 13? more episodes than we do. I love reading people's theories. It gives you something to think about. However I personally find it amusing when people post theories and claim they are facts. Ah ok, thanks nic :) I assumed it was my posts that were being chided, im paranoid that way here ;) I state my opinions strongly without the old IMO every other line..so i tend to get a reaction! But yea, i never use OBVIOUSLY so im in the clear:P A writing professor once gave me an A minus on a paper, and wrote in the margin: "Stop using the word 'obviously'. If you find yourself wanting to use that word, then you should first question whether your point is truly obvious, and second ask why the hell you need to state the obvious. In most cases, the only remaining use will be a declaration of your intelligence, which no self-respecting reader wants to hear." The word has since been stricken from my vocabulary, along with most other hyberbolic adverbs, only to be replaced with maybe, possibly, perhaps, probably, IMHO when I'm texting (which is never) and similar forms of good old Irish passive-aggressive sarcasm. I now program my spell-check to automatically insert the words "you moron" whenever I type the o word. Only a few mild professional embarrasments have occurred. Thanks, nic, for explaining my previous comment so eloquently. And no worries on this end, Phantom, I know that you don't always mean obviously when you say obviously, just as you must know that the reactions you get from me and others, which often result in further entrenchment on a particular position, are stated mostly to keep our bullshit meters from getting rusty, not to ruin your fun. I'm pretty sure my comment was directed at someone else, anyway. But maybe it wasn't that obvious.
Fluffynurse		#928	[-]
Posts: 17583 (02/08/10 03:01 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I have nothing LOSTy to post. Just wanted to show off my avi. <<--------- Whodat!
FeliciaM7		#929	[-]
Posts: 9668 (02/08/10 04:05 PM) Once you go Jack... Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Nice, Fluffs ! What I find kind of funny as that the temple people clearly knew something was wrong with the "healing pool" yet they tossed Sayid in there anyway That was some murky nasty ass water that OBVIOUSLY had no healing power so it's not surprising that Sayid is "alive" only because something sinister took over his body. chidelta, I'd have to come up with a better spell check code for my O word... : Þ
nic2200		#930	[-]
Posts: 109 (02/08/10 05:56 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The spontaneous rally will begin at 1:45. Remove this ad chidelta wrote: "Stop using the word 'obviously'. If you find yourself wanting to use that word, then you should first question whether your point is truly obvious, and second ask why the hell you need to state the obvious. In most cases, the only remaining use will be a declaration of your intelligence, which no self-respecting reader wants to hear." <3 THIS.
Cheyenie		#931	[-]
Posts: 497 (02/08/10 06:41 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Congrats Fluffy. The Saints played a heck of a game last night. As a Browns fan I can relate to suffering through terrible teams. I hope to someday be in your shoes and celebrating a Super Bowl victory. If Sayid is inhabited by something sinister I wonder if the spring is a way into the temple without worrying about the ash ring.
phantomkp		#932	[-]
Posts: 932 (02/08/10 10:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FeliciaM7 wrote: What I meant is Sayid & Ben are different from Locke. I also think there may be a difference between Sayid's healing and little Ben's healing. I think the healing changed Ben - actually we were told by Richard that Ben will never be the same (innocence taken from him) - but I don't think little Ben technically ever died or is/was inhabited by something/someone. That is what I think now. Subject to change. I do think something different happened to Sayid and he is inhabited by umm I have no fkn idea. I don't think we have to worry about him losing his innocence though. :Þ JMO Yes...i never once thought Sayid was like Locke now, thats silly :P But dont you think little Ben could have been "drowned" under water like Sayid was? We know that little Ben was pretty much dead like Sayid was before going to the temple. The only difference i can see between the two is that the water didnt seem to be "normal"
phantomkp		#933	[-]
Posts: 933 (02/08/10 10:25 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	pleasepassthepork wrote: In the Kimmel interview they admitted that Sayid is inhabited, but didn't confirm who/what with. Well i take back what i said about Sayid being inhabited as "silly" :P I always trust what Darlton says in their interviews... ;)
phantomkp		#934	[-]
Posts: 934 (02/08/10 10:31 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	chidelta wrote: Ah ok, thanks nic :) I assumed it was my posts that were being chided, im paranoid that way here ;) I state my opinions strongly without the old IMO every other line..so i tend to get a reaction! But yea, i never use OBVIOUSLY so im in the clear:P A writing professor once gave me an A minus on a paper, and wrote in the margin: "Stop using the word 'obviously'. If you find yourself wanting to use that word, then you should first question whether your point is truly obvious, and second ask why the hell you need to state the obvious. In most cases, the only remaining use will be a declaration of your intelligence, which no self-respecting reader wants to hear." The word has since been stricken from my vocabulary, along with most other hyberbolic adverbs, only to be replaced with maybe, possibly, perhaps, probably, IMHO when I'm texting (which is never) and similar forms of good old Irish passive-aggressive sarcasm. I now program my spell-check to automatically insert the words "you moron" whenever I type the o word. Only a few mild professional embarrasments have occurred. Thanks, nic, for explaining my previous comment so eloquently. And no worries on this end, Phantom, I know that you don't always mean obviously when you say obviously, just as you must know that the reactions you get from me and others, which often result in further entrenchment on a particular position, are stated mostly to keep our bullshit meters from getting rusty, not to ruin your fun. I'm pretty sure my comment was directed at someone else, anyway. But maybe it wasn't that obvious. Ok but, in all of my posts in this thread about what i think concerning Lost...i never used the word "obvious" or "obviously". Or any other qualifying terms similar to that. So i have no idea what you are talking about concerning my posts. :) Nice story though!
FeliciaM7		#935	[-]
Posts: 9675 (02/08/10 11:10 PM) Once you go Jack... Reply Quote More Recent Posts	His stories are always nice. But dont you think little Ben could have been "drowned" under water like Sayid was? We know that little Ben was pretty much dead like Sayid was before going to the temple. The only difference i can see between the two is that the water didnt seem to be "normal" I don't think Ben was dead when he was taken to the temple and we never saw the water before so I don't know that LB was "healed" in nasssy water. This subject is annoying me. Sayid is inhabited. I believe the writers every now and then. Ben is not inhabited imo.
Mickey K2		#936	[-]
Posts: 1137 (02/09/10 12:56 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FeliciaM7 wrote: His stories are always nice. But dont you think little Ben could have been "drowned" under water like Sayid was? We know that little Ben was pretty much dead like Sayid was before going to the temple. The only difference i can see between the two is that the water didnt seem to be "normal" I don't think Ben was dead when he was taken to the temple and we never saw the water before so I don't know that LB was "healed" in nasssy water. This subject is annoying me. Sayid is inhabited. I believe the writers every now and then. Ben is not inhabited imo. Ditto... it's possible that Ben could have been saved if taken to a DR, perhaps is wound was not as bad as we thought. We won't really know unless they do a flashback and show us exactly what happend in there. To me, it feels like all the good in Ben was taken away, and some how was healed, how.. I don't know, perhaps he was just placed in the water, perhaps he was drowned as well, but until I see it with my own eyes, I don't believe that any one/thing is him it. That's Ben, just not the Ben he was before he was shot. Someone is in Sayid, the way he looked at Jack, with "new" eyes tells me that. And Jacob told Hurley that he died an hour ago and that he needed to get Sayid there quickly. He did this for good reason, I'm pretty sure he also knew all of this was coming and set into motion everything we saw in the episode. My gut says it's Jacob, but only time will tell. I'm sorry if alot of this was said earlier in the thread, but with me getting it out here a week later it makes it difficult to keep up.
FeliciaM7		#937	[-]
Posts: 9678 (02/09/10 04:11 AM) Once you go Jack... Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It's ok if you are behind with posting.. you don't get to see Lost the same night we do. You're keeping up well. :)
FeliciaM7		#938	[-]
Posts: 9679 (02/09/10 04:31 AM) Once you go Jack... Reply Quote More Recent Posts	And Jacob told Hurley that he died an hour ago and that he needed to get Sayid there quickly. He did this for good reason, I'm pretty sure he also knew all of this was coming and set into motion everything we saw in the episode. My gut says it's Jacob, but only time will tell. The reason I don't think Sayid is inhabited by Jacob is because Jacob seemed too resigned to his fate, even before Ben killed him. It just seems too convenient that MiB could kill Jacob then Jacob could live (so to speak) through someone else. What would be the point of MiB waiting all those years to find a loophole to kill Jacob is it was that simple for him to come back as someone else? That could go on and on forever. I think Jacob urged Hurley to get Sayid to the temple because he knew exactly what would happen.. that it wouldn't be possible to actually heal him (as Ben was) but the circumstances were right for Mystery Inhabitant to take over Sayid. I think Jacob is helpless now and the only way he can get back at MiB is by helping create the new Sayid who could possibly take his place as an anti-MiB of sorts. I could be wrong. If I'm right, I'm excited to find out who/what has power over Sayid now. That all made no fucking sense to anyone but me.
Mickey K2		#939	[-]
Posts: 1139 (02/09/10 04:39 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	FeliciaM7 wrote: And Jacob told Hurley that he died an hour ago and that he needed to get Sayid there quickly. He did this for good reason, I'm pretty sure he also knew all of this was coming and set into motion everything we saw in the episode. My gut says it's Jacob, but only time will tell. The reason I don't think Sayid is inhabited by Jacob is because Jacob seemed too resigned to his fate, even before Ben killed him. It just seems too convenient that MiB could kill Jacob then Jacob could live (so to speak) through someone else. What would be the point of MiB waiting all those years to find a loophole to kill Jacob is it was that simple for him to come back as someone else? That could go on and on forever. I think Jacob urged Hurley to get Sayid to the temple because he knew exactly what would happen.. that it wouldn't be possible to actually heal him (as Ben was) but the circumstances were right for Mystery Inhabitant to take over Sayid. I think Jacob is helpless now and the only way he can get back at MiB is by helping create the new Sayid who could possibly take his place as an anti-MiB of sorts. I could be wrong. If I'm right, I'm excited to find out who/what has power over Sayid now. That all made no fucking sense to anyone but me. My thought I guess went with MiB was able to find a loop hole then Jacob could find one as well. But now that you bring this up, perhaps he's always known a way to kill MiB, just never did it, as he seems to be the good between the two, and now that he's dead he's getting that into motion so the people left on the island don't die by his hand, or rather Ben's hand, as well. ETA: Had another thought... can MiB possibly see the future when he is in smoke form and near that person? When he met up with Locke did he see that Ben would kill him? Did he see that Locke's dead body would be on the plane and that he could become Locke and get Ben to kill Jacob? Things to ponder on..... Last Edited By: Mickey K2 02/09/10 07:17 AM. Edited 1 times.
Trixiego	More theories	#940	[-]
Posts: 19157 (02/09/10 08:22 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The spontaneous rally will begin at 1:45. Remove this ad Since ya'll are so much better at this than me it was probably already mentioned at some point but after the season ender and the premiere I got this "sentinel" vibe from the whole show. The movie/book Sentinel is about a young woman who moves into this brownstone (after her father dies) to start a new life but the brownstone is being controlled by these unseen forces and it seems to reside between two worlds (light and darkness) and it's being watched over by this old priest (the sentinel) The brownstone has a bunch of very strange people in it and there is a whole bunch of other stuff but ultimately the young woman ends up replacing the sentinel and becomes the sentinel herself. The whole Jacob/MIB deal seemed to be that they were chosen for whatever reason to be sentinels for the island (good and evil though of course and frankly at this point I am wondering if all the island stuff is merely a " human experiment" that is played out to see what happens; something about Jacob/MIB's conversation on the island about the people always coming and destruction and Jacob referencing how progress is made just seems to me that for whatever reason certain people are chosen to see what happens) and with the way that they had Locke and Jack have such parallels in their thoughts and stories it seems that they are going to be the two to take over those positions and end up being the sentinels for that island because Jacob and MIB will hand over the keys to two other people. Someone may have already mentioned this but I never thought about it until the scene of Jacob/MIB on the beach and what is going on with the two of them now and how in the 2004 line we are seeing an immediate connection form with Locke and Jack. How this all ends up connecting with the 2004 line and 2007 line is still out with the jury but it would just seem so fitting for Locke and Jack "replacing" Jacob and MIB. (Again, just move along if someone already thought of this.....)

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