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drowsy12	The Phillip Win	Lead	[-]
Posts: 392 (05/05/11 08:06 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Forum Love Remove this ad yesterday we got the first 'telling' confessional from Phillip that indicates he may be smart after all - I can't WAIT to see this oral argument he has. It's a great plan if you can do it right, but I feel he might have gone WAY too far with the race thing. Unless he can use that as part of his argument and say it was a trick, I can't see Zap ever voting for him. He seemed pretty passionate when talking about that incident at the time so I doubt it was a put-on. Either way should be an awesome final TC - if Phillip somehow pulls this off this could be the most epic win ever.
LoudyPants		#1	[-]
Posts: 1413 (05/05/11 08:13 AM) Sportin' a Woody Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I don't think Philip can win. I do however think he may have an excellent argument in final three of he can say he did not break alliances or lie to anyone. Playing the village idiot and making yourself a goat that everyone wants to sit at final three with has merit too, in an outlast sort of way. You have to get to final three to win. But this never works. Russell Hantz tried this. If the people hate you and think you are a jerk off they would never want to see with a million smackers, you can not win in this game. Unless you are Dick Hatch.
Shiro		#2	[-]
Posts: 118 (05/05/11 08:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah I want to hear Phillip's final speech as well, but from Julie and David's exit interviews it seems like they still think Phillip really is %$#*$, so that leads me to believe that ether Phillip is unable to convince anyone that this was all an act at the final tribal or he gets voted off before he gets a chance to put his strategy in to effect at the final tribal.
juju		#3	[-]
Posts: 89 (05/05/11 08:31 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	drowsy12 wrote: I can't WAIT to see this oral argument he has. Phillip's oral argument: "I'll give each one of you head who votes for me." Yah. Thass a WINNAH!
Licorice		#4	[-]
Posts: 7193 (05/05/11 08:43 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	If Philip makes it to the FTC and tells the jury what he told us in his confessional on last night's show, he'll win in a landslide.
SucksSucks		#5	[-]
Posts: 781 (05/05/11 08:46 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	If it's a final 3 between Phillip, Rob, and a girl, then the girl would win basically by default. Philip won't win because the jury thinks he's a nutcase no matter how much he tries to convince them otherwise. Rob won't win because he's already played the game 3 times and doesn't deserve to win against a bunch of first timers. Therefore, the girl would win. Simple as that.
jinkoe		#6	[-]
Posts: 28 (05/05/11 09:03 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Phillip wins with a speech similar in tone to this one: "Everyone, I'd like to start by telling you a secret: I'm playing Survivor. I'm playing it a completely different way than you all because I purposely set myself up as the outcast who everyone wanted in the finals. But make no mistake, I'm playing Survivor and I'm playing well. I'm not reall cuuhraaazy, nor am I insane, and I apologize if I've made you uncomfortable in any way. Steve, I want to personally apologize to you. I probably went to far, but I was in character at the time and just lost a bit of control. My sincerest apologies. As I said, I'm playing a game by playing a role. You think I actually own these pink underwear?! Do you think I accidentally stood with my ass to your face over and over again, like I was completely unaware of personal space, boundaries, and manners? Do you really think the feather meant something, or the special agent thing was real? At first you probably didn't, but I bet you bought into it. It was all an act. Everything. ALL OF IT. I'm actually a part-time manager at Kinko's and I deliver pizzas for extra money. The stuff about talking to my dead relatives? Complete nonsense. I just happened to watch Young Guns II before coming on the show and felt inspired by the peyote scene. Rob played you all, but I played Rob. The entire time I was tricking him into thinking I was the safe play, and he dutifully had the tribe vote out each and every one of you. He wasn't in charge. He did what I wanted. Rob is the smoke and the mirrors; I'm the little old man behind the curtain working the levers of the great and powerful Oz. I sincerely hope that each and every one of you considers what I have said, but I'll leave with one thought. You all KNEW of Rob's character, skill, and history before starting this game, yet you decided to let him dominate and you all played under the radar for the most part. It's a legit strategy and it got [insert UTR female's name] here, but it's weak. I actually engineered my presence in the finals. If not for my persona this entire time, you would have voted me out long ago."
SucksSucks		#7	[-]
Posts: 783 (05/05/11 09:26 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	jinkoe wrote: Phillip wins with a speech similar in tone to this one: "Everyone, I'd like to start by telling you a secret: I'm playing Survivor. I'm playing it a completely different way than you all because I purposely set myself up as the outcast who everyone wanted in the finals. But make no mistake, I'm playing Survivor and I'm playing well. I'm not reall cuuhraaazy, nor am I insane, and I apologize if I've made you uncomfortable in any way. Steve, I want to personally apologize to you. I probably went to far, but I was in character at the time and just lost a bit of control. My sincerest apologies. As I said, I'm playing a game by playing a role. You think I actually own these pink underwear?! Do you think I accidentally stood with my ass to your face over and over again, like I was completely unaware of personal space, boundaries, and manners? Do you really think the feather meant something, or the special agent thing was real? At first you probably didn't, but I bet you bought into it. It was all an act. Everything. ALL OF IT. I'm actually a part-time manager at Kinko's and I deliver pizzas for extra money. The stuff about talking to my dead relatives? Complete nonsense. I just happened to watch Young Guns II before coming on the show and felt inspired by the peyote scene. Rob played you all, but I played Rob. The entire time I was tricking him into thinking I was the safe play, and he dutifully had the tribe vote out each and every one of you. He wasn't in charge. He did what I wanted. Rob is the smoke and the mirrors; I'm the little old man behind the curtain working the levers of the great and powerful Oz. I sincerely hope that each and every one of you considers what I have said, but I'll leave with one thought. You all KNEW of Rob's character, skill, and history before starting this game, yet you decided to let him dominate and you all played under the radar for the most part. It's a legit strategy and it got [insert UTR female's name] here, but it's weak. I actually engineered my presence in the finals. If not for my persona this entire time, you would have voted me out long ago." They're not going to buy that. It's so easy for a villain, whom everyone hates, to come out and say "Surprise! it was all an act so you'd all want to take me to the finals. My brilliant plan worked so i deserve to win". I believe he can win only if he breaks character, but i get the feeling he won't be able to help himself and will come up with a grandiose Coach style speech about secret service and native americans and such and dig his own grave.
drowsy12		#8	[-]
Posts: 395 (05/05/11 09:29 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	As cool as that speech would be - I don't think the jury would buy it as a whole. Russell imo actually gave a good speech in Samoa and if someone had outlined in a thread on Sucks what his speech was - he pretty much hit alot of points of his game in needing to explain why he should win. one thing that has never changed is Survivor is a social game and the jury usually has to like who they are voting for - so I think this could potentially convince 2-3 people but maybe not as a whole. Also, the other problem is that I think most of the jury already decides who they want to win at ponderosa. hope im wrong.
El Hutch		#9	[-]
Posts: 3769 (05/05/11 09:32 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	If he gives the speech in a British accent, he's full of win.
jinkoe		#10	[-]
Posts: 31 (05/05/11 09:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Forum Love Remove this ad I think a speech like that would give him a chance. But what if he went off the deep end the other way and ended up sounding like NaOnka's relative? Slang, head swinging, arm moving, improper conjugation of verbs, racial overtones, references to blunts, swisher sweets, "Da Chronic," and a finishing line of... Now that would be entertaining.
burnettfollower		#11	[-]
Posts: 3239 (05/05/11 09:59 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	If that's his speech, maybe he'll win some points with steve by giving him a sincere and genuine apology. Maybe not a vote, but a genuine apology might make his speech easier to swallow for Steve. In Andrea's departing speech, she said that everyone lied, except Phil. And he has said that he has never lied and has stayed true to his alliance. If he sticks to those things, he may get a vote from Andrea if the other two in the F3 is Rob and another girl.
Eugene Schwindlemyer		#12	[-]
Posts: 3668 (05/05/11 10:03 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	His oral argument is just another one of his delusions. he is neither smart nor savvy.
bigfatpig		#13	[-]
Posts: 28 (05/05/11 10:07 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Based on the editing, I actually think he'll go to the Finals and try something like this; I don't think he'll manage to win though. Bear in mind that most past jurors have admitted they went into the FTC knowing who they planned to vote for. As much as him giving a speech like that would mix things up, I don't think he'd manage to spin enough votes to actually win. Plus, as has already been discussed left and right: If Matt, Mike, or Ralph go to the finals, they win. Therefore, I really only see one way for this to happen, and it's a long-shot: Phillip wins immunity at F4. He then explains to everyone what's really been happening, making sure to mention this at TC so the jury hears him and can discuss this amongst themselves at Ponderosa. He cannot do this without immunity though, because the risk of him immediately being labeled a huge threat and voted off is too great. Then, and only then, could he beat two other Ometepes.
Screerider		#14	[-]
Posts: 28307 (05/05/11 12:03 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	drowsy12 wrote: yesterday we got the first 'telling' confessional from Phillip that indicates he may be smart after all It's not the first. He's hinted at this a few times before. El Hutch wrote: If he gives the speech in a British accent, he's full of win. Ha! I pretended to be Phillip with a Brit accent at FTC last night! (Though I think the Jury still wouldn't buy it.)
Pumpkin37		#15	[-]
Posts: 4482 (05/05/11 12:05 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I would prefer a Phillip win to a Slob win, and though Phil impressed me with his act (I knew it was an act) I still think he pissed off tom many people. However-if it was a final 2 he could beat Slob, but to bad for him it's a final 3.
StatelyWayneManor		#16	[-]
Posts: 20069 (05/05/11 12:07 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	"Hey, Steve!" "Remember when I called you a racist? I was just funnin' you." Good luck with that strategery.
Pumpkin37		#17	[-]
Posts: 4484 (05/05/11 12:10 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	StatelyWayneManor wrote: "Hey, Steve!" "Remember when I called you a racist? I was just funnin' you." Good luck with that strategery.
StubbleAdonis		#18	[-]
Posts: 295 (05/05/11 12:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Here's how I would argue the case if I was Philip 1. I was a hard worker at camp 2. I was true to my alliance, I didn't make any promises to any of you 3. Rob fooled all of you and I fooled Rob into taking me to the end 4. My strategy worked because I was next to go for 35 days and here I am in FTC He should say all this completely matter-of-factly and non-Philip-like so that people are convinced that it was a brilliant act.
StatelyWayneManor		#19	[-]
Posts: 20073 (05/05/11 12:28 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	...and Rob would say to Phil. 1.You were useless at challenges when it mattered 2.You weren't true to your alliance with Franqueska 3.Rob figured out your act a while ago. 4.If you were REALLY next to go you would have been gone. Just ask Matt. Or Andrea. Or ______ Please win, Rob.
StubbleAdonis		#20	[-]
Posts: 296 (05/05/11 12:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Forum Love Remove this ad Philip was right to betray Francesqua. Even with Kristina's idol, they were 3 against 9, so they couldn't even win in 1 tribal council. He would've been a fool to align himself with her. It was a better play to betray her so that he would prove himself to the dominant group.

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