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saxmachine69		#21	[-]
Posts: 256 (05/17/11 10:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Viva la removeaducion! Remove this ad Rob is far from the greatest survivor ever. His performance this season was good, but again, not the greatest ever. Rob is infinitely overrated thanks to this train wreck of a season. He deserves some credit for what he did, but all this Rob nob gobbling is pretty sad.
omzig		#22	[-]
Posts: 6649 (05/17/11 10:44 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	kevin wrote: Sorry to burst your bubble but rob is doing around the world in 80 days. I doubt they will ever return for amazing race, and even if they do.....amazing race is different from survivor IT is? Do tell. Amber is probably getting the urge to compete again ~ I wouldn't rule it out.
Yeaster		#23	[-]
Posts: 10405 (05/17/11 10:54 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I'd have more respect for his game if people like Tom Westman, Hatch, Heidi, and JT didn't already do what he did on their first try years before. His performance this season was excellent, but so incredibly lopsided. I don't consider him among the best players ever (top 15-20, sure). There were other players who were able to "get" the game at a much faster pace than he was able to.
saxmachine69		#24	[-]
Posts: 259 (05/17/11 11:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeaster wrote: I'd have more respect for his game if people like Tom Westman, Hatch, Heidi, and JT didn't already do what he did on their first try years before. His performance this season was excellent, but so incredibly lopsided. I don't consider him among the best players ever (top 15-20, sure). There were other players who were able to "get" the game at a much faster pace than he was able to. don't forget Todd! But exactly. Rob's strategy was essentially a clone of Heidik's, except Heidik deserves more credit for his based on the fact he executed it to perfection on his first try, against competition with equal experience, and his was actually for the most part original. He took Hatch's controlling an alliance strategy and built sub alliances with every individual in the alliance, only to blindside them one by one, and he basically invented the goat strategy with Clay. to me, the best individual performances in a season debate starts and ends with Hatch and Heidik.
usethi23		#25	[-]
Posts: 47 (05/17/11 11:45 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sandra Diaz-Twine.....'Nuff Said.
dotsdfe		#26	[-]
Posts: 794 (05/17/11 12:16 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The thing is, credit CAN be taken away from his win because it's his 4th. He had time to back away, look at his previous games, and tweak them. So how does that make him better than players who played a very similar game to his, but without time to analyze/fix mistakes, such as Todd, Tom, Brian, and Hatch? Had he won in All-Stars, even, with less time to look at his mistakes, I'd call him one of the best winners ever. For example, if Russell ever manages to win by fixing his social game, I don't think that we'll call him the best winner ever. Why? Because he's had time to see what doesn't work and fix it. Other players that only get one shot to get it right and do so (barring lucky circumstances like Natalie, Bob, etc) are the better players.
Pumpkin37		#27	[-]
Posts: 4780 (05/17/11 12:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I wasn't impressed. Not that anyone cares, but they took so many elements out of the game to put RI in, it was just kind of whatever.
Pseudo Propaganda		#28	[-]
Posts: 10832 (05/17/11 12:52 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah I'd have to say that Rob is actually the worst player to ever win Survivor. It took him four tries and a season stacked with mindless drones to actually win.
kellogg9.niketalk		#29	[-]
Posts: 22 (05/17/11 01:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A s a girl i know when another girl is interested in going down on a guy. Jeff Probst would totally go down on Rob.
Gregoire		#30	[-]
Posts: 36602 (05/17/11 01:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Viva la removeaducion! Remove this ad What did Rob do that Richard Hatch did not do with smarter players and sans hidden immunity idol? In the end, Redemption Island really had no impact on the game anyway, so that was hardly a true hurdle.
ptparatroopa		#31	[-]
Posts: 422 (05/17/11 01:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeaster wrote: I'd have more respect for his game if people like Tom Westman, Hatch, Heidi, and JT didn't already do what he did on their first try years before. Took me a second to realize that you meant Brian and not, well, Heidi. Anyway, Jeff is a dumbass with selective memory. Earl won unanimously. JT won unanimously and never received a vote against him throughout the game. Rob did neither and didn't even win until his fourth try. "As close to a perfect game" my ass.
chrono		#32	[-]
Posts: 21 (05/17/11 01:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Sandra is the best
OutwitOutplay		#33	[-]
Posts: 221 (05/17/11 03:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Casual6 wrote: I love how people who refuse to give BRob credit conveniently ignore the fact that he has been a top player ever since he dominated All Stars where he wasn't up against "amateurs" and lost by one vote due to a bitter jury {and then managed to get his hands on the winners million anyway.} IMO, what put's Boston Rob at least in the conversation for greatest ever is that (unlike Russell) he has shown an ability to learn from mistakes that he made in past seasons an adapt his game to new situations and personal dynamics that he finds himself faced with each time he plays. If you want to argume that he hasn't always had the best strategic game or social game or physical game, I think that reasonable arguments can be made for all of those. But when you take a combination of all three and add to it his leadership skills, basic survival skills, and puzzle abilities; he really is about as complete a package as they have had on Survivor. In all fairness, the "all stars" Rob was up against were terrible at Survivor. The best players to play the game came after "all stars." The players on "all stars" were bigger sheep than those on R.I. That said, RI Boston Rob put together an amazing performance. Cumulatively, BR is mediocre at best. RI on its own was pretty brilliant. Maybe a top 5 victory.
OutwitOutplay		#34	[-]
Posts: 222 (05/17/11 04:06 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	irJong wrote: Your (lack of) logic fails. You can't factor his old performances into how good of a player he is now. Is Michael Jordan not the greatest because he couldn't reach the NBA finals for the first six years on the team? Is Usain Bolt's record-breaking run less impressive because he wasn't able to do it the first several thousand times he ran 100m? Previous performances have nothing to do with how impressive a feat is as it stands. Actually, the logic does hold. You can look at LeBron James and say he is an amazing athlete. And if he wins a title this year, you'd probably think even higher of him. But anyone who would compare him to Michael Jordan would be crazy. Michael Jordan has a much more impressive BODY OF WORK. Similarly, Eli Manning had an extraordinary performance in the Super Bowl, but people wouldn't dare compare him to his brother. Not many have played Survivor four times, so it's hard to assume how all the winners would fair if they played three more times, but I think most people feel that if some past winners played four times they'd fair better than Rob after four times. I tend to agree. It doesn't take away from the RI performance, which on its own is impressive, but as a complete body of work it's pretty mediocre.
AllStarsBRobFan		#35	[-]
Posts: 12 (05/17/11 04:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	He straight up dominated 2 seasons. 2 for 4 aint bad with 1 w to go with it. His problem with All Stars was I felt he didn't own the final tribal council. He was so un Boston Rob like. He basically apologized.
elo		#36	[-]
Posts: 9 (05/17/11 05:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	not a single one of you motherfuckers understand what hype and marketing are. what do you want him to say? "oh, this was a dismal season"?.. or how about "our winner this season was, eh"? all of you stfu and gtfo
jonnyfairplay		#37	[-]
Posts: 639 (05/17/11 05:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Everyone here is WAY too results oriented. In Survivor, like in everything else, luck matters sooo much. Even the best player in a season skills-wise probably has a 1 in 5 chance MAX to win the season. An evaluation of Rob's skill set shows that he is clearly a great player. He creates strong relationships, integrates himself and puts himself at the center of dominant alliances, has an intricate understanding of game mechanics, and has a superb individual and team challenge game. The truth is that even the elite players like Rob, Sandra, Parvati, Tina, Richard, Brian, Tom, etc are never favorites against the field to win a given season, so we should expect not to see them win any given season.
cantgetsome		#38	[-]
Posts: 435 (05/17/11 06:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	kevin wrote: I don't think that qualify you as the greatest player ever. ^ right here.
COYS10		#39	[-]
Posts: 56 (05/17/11 06:38 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	irJong wrote: Your (lack of) logic fails. You can't factor his old performances into how good of a player he is now. Is Michael Jordan not the greatest because he couldn't reach the NBA finals for the first six years on the team? Is Usain Bolt's record-breaking run less impressive because he wasn't able to do it the first several thousand times he ran 100m? Previous performances have nothing to do with how impressive a feat is as it stands. This is quite possibly the dumbest thing i have ever read in my life. Your logic is absurd. In the NBA or Sports EVERYBODY gets multiple chances. In survivor, there have only been a select few with multiple chances. Who is to say that other people with 4 chances would not have won or played just as good a game. Also, if Michael Jordan played against a high school team for th NBA championship, how would his accomplishment stand then? Before you start accusing people of lacking logic, you better check you own.
OutwitOutplay		#40	[-]
Posts: 223 (05/18/11 12:26 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Viva la removeaducion! Remove this ad jonnyfairplay wrote: Everyone here is WAY too results oriented. In Survivor, like in everything else, luck matters sooo much. Even the best player in a season skills-wise probably has a 1 in 5 chance MAX to win the season. An evaluation of Rob's skill set shows that he is clearly a great player. He creates strong relationships, integrates himself and puts himself at the center of dominant alliances, has an intricate understanding of game mechanics, and has a superb individual and team challenge game. The truth is that even the elite players like Rob, Sandra, Parvati, Tina, Richard, Brian, Tom, etc are never favorites against the field to win a given season, so we should expect not to see them win any given season. Fair. But hypothetically put Sandra, Brian, or Tom on the RI season in Rob's slot. Tell me you don't think each has more than an 80% chance of winning. . .

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