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natnyc911		#1541	[-]
Posts: 1186 (07/06/11 08:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is 'uncopyrightable'! Remove this ad meatball77 wrote: I loved the piece tonight. The road to the top ten. Who doesn't have any memorable numbers that people will want to see on the tour. . . I think Jess/Clarice remain the one couple without any real memorable numbers people would want to see on tour. Everyone else has one at the very least, while others have more obviously. This could be a reason to cut the two of them tomorrow. That and the fact that splitting up any other couple would be weird with only two weeks left before they officially split. I mean, imagine dumping Clarice to partner up Jess with Ashley if Chris was out. Or on the opposite end, dumping Jess to partner up Clarice with Chris.
radiognome3		#1542	[-]
Posts: 3361 (07/06/11 08:30 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Haven't been excited about this season at all - actually can't believe I'm still watching. I just record the show then watch only the dances - can get through it in about 40 minutes. Jess and Clarice were the best of the night. Melanie and Marko were good, but their costumes were horrid. Ryan and Ricky danced well, but I can't stand either of them. Ashley is a big doofus, and her partner is forgettable (can't remember his name) Sasha and Alexander are a horribly mix-matched pair Can't stand slutty Jordan, but Tadd is OK can't remember the other couple
littltimmy		#1543	[-]
Posts: 2576 (07/06/11 08:31 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think Ashley's a goner, but Chris might have a chance if Alex is in the bottom, and the judges overlook him screwing up the group number (which must have been because of the hoodie, since he pulled it packed over his head, and he was in sync again)... and he also has to do a good solo. I agree that Ashley was more enjoyable to watch this week (she worked her skirt nicely, and her face was dynamic, whereas Chris didn't have a skirt to work, so his arms looked weird, and he just smiled politely the whole time, but I will say his footwork was better), but while Chris has Alex as another strong candidate for elimination, who does Ashley have? The judges love all the other girls... maybe Clarice would go, but that's it (although I thought the judges loved Miranda, so what do I know?). Although all this discussing is pointless if neither Alexander nor Clarice are in the bottom. This is assuming that Ashley and Chris are in the bottom which they will be. Latin routines have been the kiss of death this season, and I don't recall a salsa ever being done well on this show aside from Benji/Heidi's at top 4, and even that one was crap compared to their mambo two weeks prior. And if I remember correctly, Travis didn't exactly nail his salsa with Martha either (so as if he has a right to judge them). Mark and Chelsie's salsa was okay, but after watching it again, it really was all Chelsie; Mark just stands there for half the routine and doesn't embarrass himself too much when they dance separately. It's just not a very visually pleasing style unless you've been practicing it for a long time and have rehearsed a bunch of cool lifts to go with it, since otherwise it just comes off as surprisingly slower than you were expecting. Last Edited By: littltimmy 07/06/11 08:54 PM. Edited 2 times.
littltimmy		#1544	[-]
Posts: 2577 (07/06/11 08:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	BTW, I know tonight was a disaster, but it had some strong points: All the new choreographers. It was great to see some fresh faces, but even though not all of them were winners, I hope a lot of them get called back, because I would like to see what some of them can do. The definite keeper is the guy who did the boys group routine and Clarice/Jess contemporary piece. He allowed all the guys to have their own moment, and it was nicely done when they were together, and I really wish we could see it danced again and have Chris do it right this time, since that really stopped from stopping the show (sorry Chris; you've killed your past two jazz routines but you blew it this time with the hoodie). His routine with Jess/Clarice was nicely done as well, with lots of interesting movement, and he choreographed to their strengths by giving them no complicated lifts (I love Stacey Tookey, but she did no favors when she gave Jess all those lifts to do, and that was not clever choreography on her part). Travis as a judge was great as well; lots of precise constructive criticism (nothing vague like "make it earthier next time, please"), and I would definitely like him back. I did cringe a bit when he was judging Ashley and Chris and he said that "all the other couples have been killing it tonight...", since while I don't expect the judges to get up and start ranting that the hat doesn't exist and production really screwed these two dancers over, but I also don't want the judges to add insult to injury by using that disadvantage against them in the critiques. The other plus tonight was Mary; normally she only gets really technical in the ballroom routines, and she did tonight with the waltz and salsa, but she also got very specific and constructive with the other routines. Yeah, she raved too much about a lot of meh routines, but at least she had specific compliments, and she didn't become unfairly mean to any of the couples (except maybe Sasha/Alexander, but they deserved it).
meatball77		#1545	[-]
Posts: 16761 (07/06/11 08:58 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	littltimmy wrote: BTW, I know tonight was a disaster, but it had some strong points: All the new choreographers. It was great to see some fresh faces, but even though not all of them were winners, I hope a lot of them get called back, because I would like to see what some of them can do. The definite keeper is the guy who did the boys group routine and Clarice/Jess contemporary piece. He allowed all the guys to have their own moment, and it was nicely done when they were together, and I really wish we could see it danced again and have Chris do it right this time, since that really stopped from stopping the show (sorry Chris; you've killed your past two jazz routines but you blew it this time with the hoodie). His routine with Jess/Clarice was nicely done as well, with lots of interesting movement, and he choreographed to their strengths by giving them no complicated lifts (I love Stacey Tookey, but she did no favors when she gave Jess all those lifts to do, and that was not clever choreography on her part). Travis as a judge was great as well; lots of precise constructive criticism (nothing vague like "make it earthier next time, please"), and I would definitely like him back. I did cringe a bit when he was judging Ashley and Chris and he said that "all the other couples have been killing it tonight...", since while I don't expect the judges to get up and start ranting that the hat doesn't exist and production really screwed these two dancers over, but I also don't want the judges to add insult to injury by using that disadvantage against them in the critiques. The other plus tonight was Mary; normally she only gets really technical in the ballroom routines, and she did tonight with the waltz and salsa, but she also got very specific and constructive with the other routines. Yeah, she raved too much about a lot of meh routines, but at least she had specific compliments, and she didn't become unfairly mean to any of the couples (except maybe Sasha/Alexander, but they deserved it). I agree. The main problem tonight was that we didn't see anything new from the couples and they had the exact same styles. I did like the new choreographers and the Judges were much better this week.
greenteeth		#1546	[-]
Posts: 734 (07/06/11 09:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It was nice just to have a week with no Tabitha and Napoleon. Anyone else sick of the choreographer having to explain the story behind the dance (that rambling "fashion cult" nonsense, for instance)? How about you just tell the dancers what it's about, and if the rest of us can't guess then one of you fucked up.
cindidindi76		#1547	[-]
Posts: 26887 (07/06/11 09:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah, i could do without the big stories.
littltimmy		#1548	[-]
Posts: 2578 (07/06/11 09:28 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	greenteeth wrote: It was nice just to have a week with no Tabitha and Napoleon. Anyone else sick of the choreographer having to explain the story behind the dance (that rambling "fashion cult" nonsense, for instance)? How about you just tell the dancers what it's about, and if the rest of us can't guess then one of you fucked up. I don't think dances need a story so much as a good concept. Just an idea that people will enjoy floating around in for the 2 minutes the dancers perform, and that's it. I feel like choreographers should at least be able to mention the concept, or the title of the piece, to at least point the audience in the right direction. I don't think it's fair to assume the choreographer/dancers messed up if you can't guess what the routine is about just from watching it; look at the Hummingbird/Flower routine. Part of what made that routine amazing was knowing that Hok was playing a Hummingbird, and anticipating how he would pull it off, and then being amazed with how accurate his movement quality was. I think that routine definitely needed a brief explanation (even if it is just a title). Or the Addiction piece; think of how much that routine would have suffered without a brief explanation/title; everyone would have assumed that Kupono was just another abusive boyfriend who was "bringing Kayla down" as the song said. So while I don't think choreographers need to spell out the entirety of their routine in the intro package, I do feel that it is necessary to at least say what the concept is. This choreographer definitely over explained his piece (saying "fashion zombies" would have been enough), but I feel that was more because of filling for time than anything, since we had 7 couples and a two hour show.
ElisabethNelehHeidiRok		#1549	[-]
Posts: 815 (07/06/11 09:39 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	1.Ricky and Ryan- undeniably the best of the night. Loved this routine. 2.Jess and Clarice-it was good but not great 3.Caitlynn and Mitchell- how ironic is it that Mandy Moore (I know its the other one) choreographed this dance and Caitlynn pulled a my dad is overseas emotion tug on American even though you could totally tell that she could care less that her dad wasnt home? American Dreamz anyone? 4.Melanie and Marko-blah 5.Chris and Ashley-goners 6.Jordin and Tadd-ehh 7.Sasha and Alexander-badddd
LeeLeeRaRa		#1550	[-]
Posts: 6372 (07/06/11 10:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is 'uncopyrightable'! Remove this ad Mitchell and Caitlynn were clearly the best in a sea of mediocrity tonight. I haven't watched every single season but someone tell me if there were ever a salsa more awful than Chris and Ashley's. I love Sasha but I hope she's in the bottom this week just so the judges will boot Alexander.
sam i am not		#1551	[-]
Posts: 789 (07/06/11 10:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	It was an interesting night. Internet was down for me for part of the night. I liked seeing how my established opinions would compare to the posts I missed. I mostly disagreed with you all tonight. 1. Jess and Clarice-By far, the best of the night. They lucked out with brilliant choreography. 2. Tadd and Jordan-A beautiful piece. I love how Tadd is adapting to what they throw at him. Jordan held her own too. 3. Caitlin and Mitchell-Visually stunning, but it did nothing for me. Much better in the second half. 4. Sasha and Alexander-A fun routine. Entertaining 5. Ryan and Ricky-I thought they did the best they could, but had weak choreography. I'm getting Sonia vibes from the choreographer, though. I think he'd be great if they brought him back 6. Melanie and Marko-I might as well have gone to the fridge. Melanie's dress distracted me. No clue how they did. 7. Ashley and Chris-I disagree with an earlier poster. I thought Ashley was pretty good. Chris was horrible IMO. Have we had more obvious boots? Brain: Ashley/Chris/Sasha/Alex/Melanie/Marko......Boot: Ashley/Chris Heart: Ryan/Ricky/Melanie/Marko/Ashley/Chris........Boot:Ryan/Chris Gut: Ryan/Ricky/Ashley/Chris/Jess/Clarice.....Boot: Ashley/Chris
cginspace		#1552	[-]
Posts: 16809 (07/06/11 11:23 PM) AI/X-Factor Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I actually found this night to be one of the best in SYTYCD history. There was more interesting choreography and true range of what dance has to offer than we usually see. Loved Clarice and Jess... and both of them bother me. But the choreography was brilliant and for once the two were actually on point emotionally. Loved Tadd and Jordan. And he still melts me. Really liked Caitlyn and Mitchell... though the choreo was a little too familiar to me... personally. It was very well danced though. Hate to say this, but also Loved Ryan tonight. Ricky amazes me in his physicality and ability to stop on a dime... and she actually nearly matched him tonight. Chris seems like such a sweet guy, and I think he is hot... but I am ready for him to go. Consolation sex, Chris? If Travis doesn'tget you first, that is? (Or a 3-way). Sasha was not as good tonight. Alexander is scuah a clean dancer... but he never has much oomph. Hot, too, though. Naked pics before you go, pls? Melanie is so effortless... amazing dancer... and yet she alsways makes it so easy-looking that I never connect to her. I never see the passion in her and it bugs me. Marko is beautiful and strong... and I thought I loved him tonight, but forgot the routine by the end of the night. ETA: Am done reading and posting for a while (been taking a break but love this show so I added), but I don't get the hate for this season. This is probably the strongest group of dancers I have seen in one season. Last Edited By: cginspace 07/06/11 11:30 PM. Edited 1 times.
Blatantly Oblivious		#1553	[-]
Posts: 2097 (07/07/11 04:22 AM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Well I don't think Marko or mel are going anywher even if their dance was kind of distracting - they are America's sweethearts Jess & Clarice are awesome but I just don't think they have a high fan following despite his regular brilliance and her regular almost brilliance I like all the guys - I can almost tell them apart - the grils, except for Mel and ryan I still get confused - but I am an addle brained old b*tch!
littltimmy		#1554	[-]
Posts: 2579 (07/07/11 04:48 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I think part of the reason it was so hard to enjoy the show was because of just how blatantly obvious it was which couple they wanted gone, but in all fairness, the new choreographers all looked like they had potential, and I want to agree that this is one of the strongest group of dancers we've seen in a season, but that's not certain yet because almost half the dancers have yet to dance a ballroom routine, or a real hip-hop number. Mel/Marko could be a power couple, or they could just be another Melissa/Ade, who were great unless they received something the slightest bit fast, where it became a disaster. I feel like the only dancers who are getting challenged are Jordan/Tadd and Chris/Ashley, and Caitlyn/Mitchell did a really good job with their samba. I can't seem to recall a season where so many couples were being catered to/protected, and I really hope they do nail the other styles, because then it will feel like the only reason they made it farther than say, Miranda, was the "luck of the draw". Also, the costume department really dropped the ball yesterday, especially with Melanie, and I think one of the main reasons the show was so hard to enjoy was that the show was two hours, and there were only 7 couples, so the rehearsal footage went on FOREVER (although it was nice to really delve into the dancers lives, since some of these people had not been featured very much). The two group routines did not add very "dance time", and we had to watch even more rehearsal footage to see it. Last Edited By: littltimmy 07/07/11 04:50 AM. Edited 2 times.
greenteeth		#1555	[-]
Posts: 735 (07/07/11 06:20 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	"I don't think dances need a story so much as a good concept. Just an idea that people will enjoy floating around in for the 2 minutes the dancers perform, and that's it. I feel like choreographers should at least be able to mention the concept, or the title of the piece, to at least point the audience in the right direction. I don't think it's fair to assume the choreographer/dancers messed up if you can't guess what the routine is about just from watching it; look at the Hummingbird/Flower routine. Part of what made that routine amazing was knowing that Hok was playing a Hummingbird, and anticipating how he would pull it off, and then being amazed with how accurate his movement quality was. I think that routine definitely needed a brief explanation (even if it is just a title)." I agree with you, I don't mind the occasional explanation, like the hummingbird for instance, because I wouldn't want the dance to be too literal, and sometimes if the choreographer points you in the right direction you say "Oh, I get that". The problem is it's becoming a crutch for poor choreography and a cheap ploy to tug on emotions and get better reviews than the dance itself merits. N/T's returning soldier routine, for instance, was mediocre and not particularly suggestive of its subject, but of course got raves because if you didn't like it you must hate soldiers or something. If you want to choreograph an interesting routine that's great, but if you felt it necessary to make the dance tell a story then people should be able to figure it out without an extended primer. And Jesus, if you are going to do a narrative routine, do they ALL have to be about couples breaking up? Last Edited By: greenteeth 07/07/11 09:17 AM. Edited 1 times.
zippityboomboom		#1556	[-]
Posts: 13312 (07/07/11 08:40 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Is Doriana Sanchez not choreographing anymore for this show?
greenteeth		#1557	[-]
Posts: 736 (07/07/11 09:21 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	"Is Doriana Sanchez not choreographing anymore for this show?" I hope she is, but I wouldn't blame her if she quit. I always get a kick out of her numbers, which are high energy and refreshingly unpretentious, but she seems to be one of the few choreographers the judges feel comfortable badmouthing.
tomash		#1558	[-]
Posts: 5531 (07/07/11 09:26 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I love Doriana! And I love Disco-routines. Yeah, they're cheesy, but they're more interesting and fun than all the cookie cutter jazz/contemporary/'lyrical hip hop' routines. And not to mention the Tyce "broadway" routines, dear god.
zippityboomboom		#1559	[-]
Posts: 13314 (07/07/11 09:33 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The very first disco routine that she ever did with Nick and Kamilah is one of my favorite dances ever on this show. Actually, most of my favorite routines come from the first 4 seasons.
greenteeth		#1560	[-]
Posts: 737 (07/07/11 01:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only 15 letter word that can be spelled without repeating a letter is 'uncopyrightable'! Remove this ad "Actually, most of my favorite routines come from the first 4 seasons." Yeah, same here. The choreography has been on a steady slide since then.

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