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twistedzman wrote: the NY media have been writing all week about Eli being an elite qb already. umm let me see him beat Brady in his backyard,
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you're killing me ddl. lolplease tell me you didnt compare Rivers to Leaf. he threw for 4700 yds and had a 101.8 qb rating throwing the ball to mostly practice squad players last year. is that the better supporting cast you're talking about? as for the Giants, they're missing their starting rb and best wr. I understand the Pats pass defense is horrendous but if its a high scoring game and the Giants pull out a victory with Eli throwing the ball to Victor Cruz, Ballard, and Ramses Barden, you have to give him a ton of credit.
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its so cool that Cruz was kind enough to do it twice for the Eagles fans.sry I couldnt resist.
El Bingo Gringo wrote: I'm down to thre teams for this weeks pick:Atlanta over IndyHouston over ClevelandDallas over SeattleI don't trust any of these teams to be reliable against anyone though.Who would you pick and why?tyia
Id go with the Cowboys b/c their season is on the line. Browns have played close gms all year and if the Colts ever win, you know it will happen at home.dont always agree w/ Phil Mushnick but he nailed it with this article imho.....
Lions’ shameful display gets passby Phil Mushnick, NY PostYou didn’t think there wasn’t going to be a price to pay for all of this, did you? Our sports, with our kids targeted to ride shotgun, have been headed this way for years. The cumulative effect of relentlessly marketing bad as good and dismissing good as unmarketable -- the pandering, the silence, the network promos that replaced football with chest-pounders and preeners, the media’s insistence that one play with “a swagger” -- has inevitably brought us to a place that years ago should not have been fed nor watered. This past Sunday in Denver, during a 45-10 loss to the suddenly smug Lions, Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow twice was openly mocked by two Detroit players acting like drive-time radio wise guys. Tebow’s sin? He’s deeply devoted to his Christian beliefs. It’s an old story attached to a young man, but he did nothing to either Lions tight end Tony Scheffler or linebacker Stephen Tulloch -- or the Lions -- that would cause either to do what he did, to kneel in exaggerated prayer as a public put-down of Tebow. And the fallout in response to this latest low in professional unsportsmanlike conduct has been mostly shrugs and silence, far short than what this sowing should have reaped. But imagine if Tebow had been mocked on the field for being black, or for being a Muslim, or for being Asian, or even mocked for being an ex-con! The fines, suspensions, apologies -- released in statements, of course -- and sensitivity sermons would have lasted all week, and beyond! That’s how painfully backwards things have become. If a player were suspended after an arrest for carrying a concealed weapon outside a nightclub at 3:30 a.m., players would show him their highest regard by inking his uniform number on their game shoes. You can even flash a gang sign for extra !*+$ cred. But Tebow, just trying to do his honest, faith-filled best, is lampooned as a jerk, a freak. Interesting that a few weeks ago the nation’s sports media were appalled that Niners’ coach Jim Harbaugh showed Lions’ coach Jim Schwartz his unsportsmanlike, rude side during the postgame handshake. But who was going to go after Scheffler and Tulloch? TV executives have rewarded the NFL’s biggest showoffs, trash-talkers, personal foul artists and attention-starved by hiring them to provide their expert opinions. Warren Sapp, Deion Sanders, Shannon Sharpe, Rodney Harrison -- an assortment of noted muscle-flexers, me-dancers, touchdown-posers, late-hit champs, fine- and suspension-masters -- are now employed to sit in network studios to give their takes on matters. Tulloch played at N.C. State, Scheffler at Western Michigan. We’re often told that even if a scholarship athlete doesn’t leave with a legit college education, he -- and we -- at least benefit from the socialization process that one undergoes just being at a college. And, yet, with NFL players -- all not long removed from college -- now regularly arrested for criminal antisocial behavior, some still cling to such a blindly wishful bromide. Now we’re in deeper than ever. The first wave of kids raised on bad-is-good, worse-is-better sports marketing are now adults, parents, coaches. Small wonder that so many Little League and Pee Wee games end with the police being summoned.We’re in deeper than ever. It’s not easy to go back to a place you’ve never been.
Lions’ shameful display gets passby Phil Mushnick, NY PostYou didn’t think there wasn’t going to be a price to pay for all of this, did you?
Our sports, with our kids targeted to ride shotgun, have been headed this way for years. The cumulative effect of relentlessly marketing bad as good and dismissing good as unmarketable -- the pandering, the silence, the network promos that replaced football with chest-pounders and preeners, the media’s insistence that one play with “a swagger” -- has inevitably brought us to a place that years ago should not have been fed nor watered.
This past Sunday in Denver, during a 45-10 loss to the suddenly smug Lions, Broncos quarterback Tim Tebow twice was openly mocked by two Detroit players acting like drive-time radio wise guys. Tebow’s sin? He’s deeply devoted to his Christian beliefs.
And the fallout in response to this latest low in professional unsportsmanlike conduct has been mostly shrugs and silence, far short than what this sowing should have reaped.
But imagine if Tebow had been mocked on the field for being black, or for being a Muslim, or for being Asian, or even mocked for being an ex-con! The fines, suspensions, apologies -- released in statements, of course -- and sensitivity sermons would have lasted all week, and beyond!
That’s how painfully backwards things have become. If a player were suspended after an arrest for carrying a concealed weapon outside a nightclub at 3:30 a.m., players would show him their highest regard by inking his uniform number on their game shoes. You can even flash a gang sign for extra !*+$ cred. But Tebow, just trying to do his honest, faith-filled best, is lampooned as a jerk, a freak.
Interesting that a few weeks ago the nation’s sports media were appalled that Niners’ coach Jim Harbaugh showed Lions’ coach Jim Schwartz his unsportsmanlike, rude side during the postgame handshake.
But who was going to go after Scheffler and Tulloch? TV executives have rewarded the NFL’s biggest showoffs, trash-talkers, personal foul artists and attention-starved by hiring them to provide their expert opinions.
Warren Sapp, Deion Sanders, Shannon Sharpe, Rodney Harrison -- an assortment of noted muscle-flexers, me-dancers, touchdown-posers, late-hit champs, fine- and suspension-masters -- are now employed to sit in network studios to give their takes on matters.
Tulloch played at N.C. State, Scheffler at Western Michigan. We’re often told that even if a scholarship athlete doesn’t leave with a legit college education, he -- and we -- at least benefit from the socialization process that one undergoes just being at a college. And, yet, with NFL players -- all not long removed from college -- now regularly arrested for criminal antisocial behavior, some still cling to such a blindly wishful bromide.
Now we’re in deeper than ever. The first wave of kids raised on bad-is-good, worse-is-better sports marketing are now adults, parents, coaches. Small wonder that so many Little League and Pee Wee games end with the police being summoned.
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twistedzman wrote:El Bingo Gringo wrote: I'm down to thre teams for this weeks pick:Atlanta over IndyHouston over ClevelandDallas over SeattleI don't trust any of these teams to be reliable against anyone though.Who would you pick and why?tyia Id go with the Cowboys b/c their season is on the line. Browns have played close gms all year and if the Colts ever win, you know it will happen at home.
Id go with the Cowboys b/c their season is on the line. Browns have played close gms all year and if the Colts ever win, you know it will happen at home.
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twistedzman wrote: you're killing me ddl. lolplease tell me you didnt compare Rivers to Leaf.
you're killing me ddl. lolplease tell me you didnt compare Rivers to Leaf.
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dennydoylelives wrote:twistedzman wrote: you're killing me ddl. lolplease tell me you didnt compare Rivers to Leaf. Yes I did. How many titles does each have? And Rivers has had a lot more talent around him then the other bitch. When it comes to potential vs. results, they're like twins. Both huge underachievers with even bigger mouths. Both whine about everything but themselves being the reason for losses. Twins I tell ya. Sort of like my slightly tongue in cheek reference to Favre as an interception prone Trent Dilfer.As for Eli. He's a very good QB. Somewhere behind Rothlesburger, a little better than Matty Ice and Vick, and substantially better than Rhomo. Not quite on the Brees, Brady, Peyton level. But solidly in the next tier.
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twistedzman wrote: dont always agree w/ Phil Mushnick but he nailed it with this article imho.....
dont always agree w/ Phil Mushnick but he nailed it with this article imho.....
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BobbyBrown11 wrote:Classic ratings...Eli is the third best QB this year. Yes, he is in the same class as Brady.
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HaroldBalzaccio wrote:I thought Tebowing became the new planking BEFORE the Lions defense took it to new heights. Who gives a shit about the religious aspect. Tebow looked like a fucking tool with that pose, and it's coming back to haunt him. Whole defenses should do that shit every time he's sacked.
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