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SenseiKreese		#11361	[-]
Posts: 6977 (12/20/11 02:43 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only real failure in life is the failure to try. Remove this ad He didn't give his own personal ranking of South Pacific, he was just curious what we thought. I do think it would be hard to rank your own season though. Hell I have a hard enough time ranking Guatemala and I wasn't even on it. I just knew somebody (Rafe) who was. I didn't ask him about religion but considering he is smart and logical and scientific, I imagine he thought it was as big a crock of shit as everyone else thought it was.
NotGregBuis		#11362	[-]
Posts: 675 (12/20/11 03:16 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Brian Corridan is the only other person I've known of who was concerned with how his season was ranked. I think I just put a couple things together in my head about Brandon though. I don't know much about the Russell's marriage thing, but I had heard rumors that he cheated on his wife with someone from Survivor, AKA Survivor ruined his marriage. I'll bet that that's been a major point of contention in the Hantz family and at least some people blame the show for their marriage being destroyed. That would suddenly make it all clear why the two things Brandon talks about are trying to redeem the family name, and not get suckered by a woman into losing his wife. Also, it would be kind of interesting if that is why Russell cries at every reunion he goes to, whether he's on the season or not. Or maybe I'm looking too far into it.
SenseiKreese		#11363	[-]
Posts: 6978 (12/20/11 03:28 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I don't think that is a bad theory at all.
SirCrocodilep		#11364	[-]
Posts: 18731 (12/20/11 09:03 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SenseiKreese wrote: Cochran is a very deep thinker. He clearly thinks about stuff that nobody else on the show thinks about, simply because he is obsessed with Survivor. During our conversation, at one point he sort of lowered his voice and asked me if South Pacific was considered a bottom five season. He was very concerned that he was going to be a part of a season that everyone hated. I have never heard another Survivor alumnus mention or even care about something like that. But he was very curious to hear what I thought about the season and what the internet was saying about it. Again, I don't see how Sucksters can so consistently come down on the guy. He is exactly like us! And Papa Bear was awesome. I arrived at the hotel at like 9:00 in the morning, and the first person I see walking around is Papa Bear. And of course he walks right over to me and introduces himself. Um yeah I know who you are. I came here to meet the Survivors. Usually you have to walk up to people and introduce yourself if you want to talk to them. But not Papa Bear. He comes over to you and just starts talking to you. He clearly -loved- all the fan interaction. He is a really nice guy. Keep in mind... for WHATEVER reasons... the most hated castaway (or houseguest) tend to post at Sucks (or laughing pygmy). He may be exactly like us, but we hate him simply because he remind us of ourselves.
SirCrocodilep		#11365	[-]
Posts: 18732 (12/20/11 09:08 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SenseiKreese wrote: He didn't give his own personal ranking of South Pacific, he was just curious what we thought. I do think it would be hard to rank your own season though. Hell I have a hard enough time ranking Guatemala and I wasn't even on it. I just knew somebody (Rafe) who was. I didn't ask him about religion but considering he is smart and logical and scientific, I imagine he thought it was as big a crock of shit as everyone else thought it was. I actually think it is because you applied to be on it.
dabu		#11366	[-]
Posts: 1358 (12/20/11 09:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	That could be true, NotGreg. He's also clearly insecure about harming his wife given their past. And in spite of how annoying he is, how he shouldn't have been cast and how I hated him on the show and would never want to be around him, I don't legitimately dislike him as a person because I think he is a good guy at heart.
NotGregBuis		#11367	[-]
Posts: 689 (12/20/11 09:46 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Yeah, I agree. I couldn't help but feel awful for the guy when he says his family hates him and aren't even there to support him, yet Probst still continues to torture him in front of millions.
Kirblar		#11368	[-]
Posts: 10150 (12/20/11 09:51 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The problem with Cochran is that as Jim said, he wasn't playing to win.
SenseiKreese		#11369	[-]
Posts: 6979 (12/20/11 10:10 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	But that isn't how he sees it. The way he sees it is he was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. And he wanted to take his chances with the people who were promising him F3 deals over the people who weren't offering him anything.
Kirblar		#11370	[-]
Posts: 10151 (12/20/11 10:34 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only real failure in life is the failure to try. Remove this ad SenseiKreese wrote: But that isn't how he sees it. The way he sees it is he was damned if he did, damned if he didn't. And he wanted to take his chances with the people who were promising him F3 deals over the people who weren't offering him anything. Because he's a bad player, despite his fanboy status. Due to the situation with Ozzy, burning his tribe ensured that he had lost 5 jury votes on the spot. When you flip in Survivor, you need to be advancing your position and gaining more leverage in the process. If you're flipping from the bottom of one alliance to another, it's a horrible move unless you're convinced you can't win the game and you're basically playing for 2/3 or playing emotionally. (Penner in Cook Islands the perfect example.)
SenseiKreese		#11371	[-]
Posts: 6980 (12/20/11 10:56 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	But he wasn't going to win a jury vote the other way either. No one even wanted him around. So what else is he going to do? Just sit there in the same position and ride his defeat all the way to the final five? If he does that he gets shit on by the internet fans because he "didn't make any moves." To keep up the Penner analogy, either way he was a complete bastard. Cochran's problem was the same problem that 99.99999% of other internet "Survivor experts" would face if they went on the show. Game theory and jury rhetoric and knowledge of Survivor history mean nothing if you can't fish, can't build a shelter, have no social skills, and aren't good in the challenges. Survivor on paper is nothing like actually dealing with people in real life. He has said it himself, he got out to the island and about 30 minutes in had already figured out this is way different than it looks on paper and that he was completely over his head. And then of course the edit and the editors made fun of him, which fit right in line with why they don't cast superfans or why they don't want 20 time applicant/charity casting cases in the first place. These aren't the people who will be good at Survivor. Cochran's problem is the same one that we would all face if we went on the show. He should have done less reading about Survivor and more going out and shmoozing with people to actually prepare for Survivor.
SwineForkbeard		#11372	[-]
Posts: 3456 (12/20/11 11:31 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SenseiKreese wrote: But he wasn't going to win a jury vote the other way either. No one even wanted him around. So what else is he going to do? Just sit there in the same position and ride his defeat all the way to the final five? If he does that he gets shit on by the internet fans because he "didn't make any moves." To keep up the Penner analogy, either way he was a complete bastard. Cochran's problem was the same problem that 99.99999% of other internet "Survivor experts" would face if they went on the show. Game theory and jury rhetoric and knowledge of Survivor history mean nothing if you can't fish, can't build a shelter, have no social skills, and aren't good in the challenges. Survivor on paper is nothing like actually dealing with people in real life. He has said it himself, he got out to the island and about 30 minutes in had already figured out this is way different than it looks on paper and that he was completely over his head. And then of course the edit and the editors made fun of him, which fit right in line with why they don't cast superfans or why they don't want 20 time applicant/charity casting cases in the first place. These aren't the people who will be good at Survivor. Cochran's problem is the same one that we would all face if we went on the show. He should have done less reading about Survivor and more going out and shmoozing with people to actually prepare for Survivor. I agree for the most part, although Cochran seems to have changed his tune a bit. Right after he was voted out, he seemed disappointed in himself and admitted flipping was a mistake. Now he stubbornly insists that he would have done the same thing and could have made it work somehow in spite of the apparent impregnability of the Upolu alliance. The uproar from the resident disciples of orthodox Survivor gameplay over what Cochran did was pretty absurd, IMO. Even if you think tying it up was worth the risk and flipping was self-defeating, how is that your problem, and why is it any reason to get hysterical? When you scratch the surface of it, you usually discover that it's just sour grapes from a heartbroken Ozzy/Jim fantard.
SenseiKreese		#11373	[-]
Posts: 6981 (12/20/11 11:42 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Pretty much. Although to me there is also an undercurrent of "A diehard fan went on the show and screwed up, and now I'll never get cast because he ruined it for all of us!!!!!" buried in there. Which is just ridiculous because Survivor doesn't want diehard fans on the show anyway. They probably just cast Cochran to make an example out of him and to shut everyone up about this.
rainmakerrtv		#11374	[-]
Posts: 86 (12/20/11 11:47 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	From what I picked up from his interview on Rob C's podcast, he made the flip trying to get further than he would with his own tribe, then tried to make new deals afterwards to improve his position, but couldn't get anyone to budge. He made a gamble, it didn't pay off, why drop the hammer on him for that? Folks should check out Penner's most recent interview on the podcast, he had a lot of good insights into Cochrane's move.
Constantinople		#11375	[-]
Posts: 1179 (12/20/11 04:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	SenseiKreese wrote: I was only half paying attention to SP this season. Ask me again in about five years. I have no idea what I will want to write about then. I imagine it takes some time to put it in perspective. Right now, I can't think of too many amusing moments / character entries from the season. There was Coach quoting Marcus Jherius Curlius (as you already noted in the Funny 115 v2, and Stacey had a few good "blams". Perhaps Rick's "Prince Albert getting turned into Princess Albert", and I think Rick had a few other bon mots. After the final episode / reunion, I don't particularly care for Sophie, but her reaction to Jack & Jill is still priceless. There could be another chapter in the Pizza Slayer Saga, although it will need to be fleshed out better than this: 1. Brandon wins the reward/immunity challenge where the pizza is the reward 2. Brandon is only allowed to pick one person with whom he can share the reward 3. Brandon picks Rick to share pizza 4. Brandon tells Coach he will give Albert the immunity necklace at tribal. 5. Coach prays hard and discovers that God wants Coach to vote out Brandon Speaking of Coach, he may have lost South Pacific, but he'll ways be No. 1 in the Funny 115 version 2. No one can ever take that away from him (unless you go all bitter juror on him).
Son of Mecha Mummy		#11376	[-]
Posts: 58 (12/20/11 04:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Papa Bear running for it was a good one, and while Cochran doesn't seem character entry worthy I did laugh at his "talking to you about shirts that aren't blue" line at Probst. I also liked Stacey in general. The sound effects, calling Edna "Ricochet Rabbit," and so on.
SenseiKreese		#11377	[-]
Posts: 6982 (12/20/11 04:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	I will never go all bitter juror on Coach. I just didn't want to live in a world where he had won Survivor. Now that everything is back to its natural order, I offer my full support again. :D
SenseiKreese		#11378	[-]
Posts: 6983 (12/20/11 04:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts	funnylookinkid wrote: I didn't know if I should post this here or start a new thread, but this seemed appropriate. I know Mario has covered Helen's cartoonish jury performance on his original Funny 115, but has anyone ever pointed out the hilarious parallels between Helen and Eliza (s9) in the final moments of their seasons? Their speeches / questions to the final two are essentially the same. In each case, she always knew one of the finalists (Clay, Twila) to be sneaky and deceptive, which she's fine with, and that finalist blows off her question after some confrontational banter. But she's incredibly bitter at the other finalist for voting her out at the final four without a heads up. Then, she essentially demands an apology of him (explicitly in Eliza's case), and her demeanor changes completely once she gets it (and she goes on to vote for that person). The really amusing part though is that their body language, expressions and posture (not to mention haircut..) are identical. I present my evidence: (you can watch Helen's and Eliza's jury speeches on youtube if you want a side-by-side comparison). Who knows, maybe this has been mentioned before. I just thought it was funny. Hey I want to add this into the Funny 115 afterword, but it looks like that second picture has been removed. Do you remember what it was, or still have a copy of it?
Bones979		#11379	[-]
Posts: 1399 (12/20/11 05:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Those pictures still make me laugh The resemblance is remarkable.
dabu		#11380	[-]
Posts: 1360 (12/20/11 05:57 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	The only real failure in life is the failure to try. Remove this ad i don't get the papa bear running thing, i have never seen why it was funny. but then again i didn't see any humor whatsoever in amanda running to james so. anyways rick saying 'sounds like two sqiurrels making love' for #1 on 3.0

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