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iluvreality wrote:I don't have the links, but take a look at the youtube videos of the jurors right before FTC discussing their voting strategies. Most of them basically said that Coach was responsible for keeping the final 5 together, etc. Ozzie most likely didn't want Coach to win and told the rest of the star struck jury to vote for Sophie. He claims that Coach didn't own up to his loyalty BS, but in fact he did when Cochran questioned him. I think Ozzie was a crybaby bitter juror.
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iluvreality wrote: I don't have the links, but take a look at the youtube videos of the jurors right before FTC discussing their voting strategies. Most of them basically said that Coach was responsible for keeping the final 5 together, etc. Ozzie most likely didn't want Coach to win and told the rest of the star struck jury to vote for Sophie. He claims that Coach didn't own up to his loyalty BS, but in fact he did when Cochran questioned him. I think Ozzie was a crybaby bitter juror.
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Moo55 wrote: Ironically, the one who made the least claims to be honest and truthful ... was probably the most.
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(12/21/11 05:48 PM)
cx wrote: Moo55 wrote: Ironically, the one who made the least claims to be honest and truthful ... was probably the most. Spoiler [+]
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(12/21/11 05:49 PM)
rower wrote:iluvreality wrote: I don't have the links, but take a look at the youtube videos of the jurors right before FTC discussing their voting strategies. Most of them basically said that Coach was responsible for keeping the final 5 together, etc. Ozzie most likely didn't want Coach to win and told the rest of the star struck jury to vote for Sophie. He claims that Coach didn't own up to his loyalty BS, but in fact he did when Cochran questioned him. I think Ozzie was a crybaby bitter juror.You're kidding right? You have no idea what Ozzy wanted do you? Ozzy only wanted Coach to cut the crap and for once in 39 days be honest. Coach failed. Sophie was 100% right in her interview when she said ALL Coach had to do to WIN the game was OWN up that he manipulated people with religion and that he was playing the game Survivor, which everyone knows entails lying, backstabbing and manipulation. Ozzy told Coach that upfront in the TC and gave Coach every opportunity to just be honest. INSTEAD Sophie took what she was seeing and gave the jury what they wanted.... honesty. That's why the Savaii voted for her, not because Ozzy told them to.
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(12/21/11 05:51 PM)
Utopian wrote:Since Ozzy was not going to win Survivor, he was determined to make sure Mr. Wade didn't either. As others have pointed out, the Savaii 5 didn't know Sophie well or how she had played the game (so they had no reason to vote for her based on merit), they thought Mr. Wade was more responsible than anyone for Cochran's sell-out, and they were crazy for Ozzy. Ozzy got his former tribe members together and it was an easy sell for him to get the others not to vote for Mr. Wade. And besides, Mr. Wade, up to a point, did own up to his lies and lack of "honor." The problem is, short of killing himself on the spot, nothing Mr. Wade could have said or done would have been sufficient to dissuade the Savaiii 5 from preventing Mr. Wade from winning the million. This is not saying the Savaii 5 were bitter. Only Ozzy was bitter, not the other 4. It's just that the other 4 were so smitten with Ozzy that they simply did what they had done all game: followed Ozzy's lead and voted for someone other than Mr. Wade.
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marlin wrote: Maybe Brandon was the one who convinced the savaiis to vote for Sophie. Pure speculation of course. If he told them all the details about Coach's promises and his use of christianity i can easily see the jury getting disgusted with him. Brandon said in his jury confessional that Sophie is the only straightforward player in the finals. The savaiis didn't know her that well and he could have easily convinced them that she is way more deserving then the laying bastards. Rick and Edna for sure didn't make her any favors, and the three of them knew her the best.
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(12/21/11 07:05 PM)
solesurvivor wrote:Whitney hated Coach. In a secret scene, Coach was ordering the tribe to ration coconuts, and for each member to get 2 coconuts each everyday. Whitney hated him for telling her what to do... I doubt Sophie ordered Whitney around camp.
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(12/21/11 08:19 PM)
solesurvivor wrote:You guys seem to have forgotten Ozzy came fresh off camp. Of course there's still a little bitterness in him. But he did not NOT vote for Coach because he was sore. He did not vote Coach because Coach wasn't honest even at the final tribal council. If Coach had owned up his game, maybe he would have gotten Ozzy's vote. Coach could have said that he knew he can't win Ozzy at the final 3 and that alone would have gotten Ozzy's vote. (it's not even bootlicking). I was half expecting Ozzy not to vote Sophie because he didn't like her but apparently he was able to put that aside and face it that Sophie had defeated him at the final challenge. See the answer above: "Coach in fact DID own up. Listen to his answer to Cochran's question. No doubt in my mind that Ozzie was the bitter juror this season."
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(12/21/11 08:25 PM)
iluvreality wrote:solesurvivor wrote:Whitney hated Coach. In a secret scene, Coach was ordering the tribe to ration coconuts, and for each member to get 2 coconuts each everyday. Whitney hated him for telling her what to do... I doubt Sophie ordered Whitney around camp. Watch Whitney's comment to Sophie at FTC.
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(12/21/11 08:33 PM)
iluvreality wrote: Coach DID own up to his game after Cochran's question!!!! Whitney hated Sophie, so where did that vote come from?
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(12/21/11 08:36 PM)
marshal99 wrote:iluvreality wrote: Coach DID own up to his game after Cochran's question!!!! Whitney hated Sophie, so where did that vote come from?If Coach do not own up before in his opening speech and he needed the jury to batter him before he own up , it's too little , too late. Coach was dodging left and right and tried to skip around the question when it was first brought up by Ozzy. Fact is , the guy was delusional and drank his own cool-aid , he really does believes that he played with honor and integrity when he stabbed his own people in the back.
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