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getting real		#4221	[-]
Posts: 2912 (12/23/11 05:51 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A tree never hits an automobile except in self-defence. Remove this ad Stephen, I wonder if you could answer something from an editing perspective. Do you recall if any of the comments made by Probst at the end of any TC were different when you watched the episode? I'm trying to establish whether there's any possibility that certain comments might be added later to help with the editorial line they're trying to take. Thanks in advance.
Hippochinfat		#4222	[-]
Posts: 6078 (12/27/11 04:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Great question
jonnyfairplay		#4223	[-]
Posts: 1538 (12/27/11 05:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Stephen, this will explain why you suck ass at survivor: http://survivorsucks.com/...pg-8?page=8#.TvpQpNVkg9s
drowsy12		#4224	[-]
Posts: 5203 (12/28/11 04:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Stephen what do you do for a living? Management/strategy consulting right? Do you work for one of the big 3?
TheWizard		#4225	[-]
Posts: 1323 (12/28/11 04:18 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	getting real wrote: Stephen, I wonder if you could answer something from an editing perspective. Do you recall if any of the comments made by Probst at the end of any TC were different when you watched the episode? I'm trying to establish whether there's any possibility that certain comments might be added later to help with the editorial line they're trying to take. Thanks in advance. I don't think so .... I've heard that after TC, he does go through and read every vote to the cameras, so they can assemble the narrative in any way they choose - so theoretically, the votes that are actually shown at TC are not necessarily the ones that are shown on television. (This would only be relevant if like they wanted to play with your expectations by showing someone in a voting confessional and then showing their vote first, or whatever).
TheWizard		#4226	[-]
Posts: 1324 (12/28/11 04:20 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	jonnyfairplay wrote: Stephen, this will explain why you suck ass at survivor: http://survivorsucks.com/...pg-8?page=8#.TvpQpNVkg9s finally! I just saw this earlier today ... I'm going to comment in a bit.
TheWizard		#4227	[-]
Posts: 1325 (12/28/11 04:21 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	drowsy12 wrote: Stephen what do you do for a living? Management/strategy consulting right? Do you work for one of the big 3? Brand & strategy consulting for tech/media companies ... mostly independent, though occasionally I will take a longer project working w/i a company.
jgabler		#4228	[-]
Posts: 4972 (12/28/11 05:55 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	TheWizard wrote: getting real wrote: Stephen, I wonder if you could answer something from an editing perspective. Do you recall if any of the comments made by Probst at the end of any TC were different when you watched the episode? I'm trying to establish whether there's any possibility that certain comments might be added later to help with the editorial line they're trying to take. Thanks in advance. I don't think so .... I've heard that after TC, he does go through and read every vote to the cameras, so they can assemble the narrative in any way they choose - so theoretically, the votes that are actually shown at TC are not necessarily the ones that are shown on television. (This would only be relevant if like they wanted to play with your expectations by showing someone in a voting confessional and then showing their vote first, or whatever). I read somewhere that it takes him 10 minutes or so to tally the votes? I thought this was so he could read them in the most dramatic order possible? Sometimes we don't know someone got a vote until the closing credits, and while this isn't that relevant anymore as a tiebreaker, are the people concerned informed? (I guess you can only answer that if it happened on your season.)
forsbergacct2000		#4229	[-]
Posts: 447 (12/28/11 07:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Which people are casting the votes against whom is usually pretty interesting at the end of an episode even if the stray votes are no longer used for breaking ties.
TheWizard		#4230	[-]
Posts: 1326 (12/28/11 08:21 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A tree never hits an automobile except in self-defence. Remove this ad jgabler wrote: TheWizard wrote: getting real wrote: Stephen, I wonder if you could answer something from an editing perspective. Do you recall if any of the comments made by Probst at the end of any TC were different when you watched the episode? I'm trying to establish whether there's any possibility that certain comments might be added later to help with the editorial line they're trying to take. Thanks in advance. I don't think so .... I've heard that after TC, he does go through and read every vote to the cameras, so they can assemble the narrative in any way they choose - so theoretically, the votes that are actually shown at TC are not necessarily the ones that are shown on television. (This would only be relevant if like they wanted to play with your expectations by showing someone in a voting confessional and then showing their vote first, or whatever). I read somewhere that it takes him 10 minutes or so to tally the votes? I thought this was so he could read them in the most dramatic order possible? Sometimes we don't know someone got a vote until the closing credits, and while this isn't that relevant anymore as a tiebreaker, are the people concerned informed? (I guess you can only answer that if it happened on your season.) Yes it does take him a while to tally the votes, and yes it's definitely to read them in the most dramatic order possible. IF it's true that after tribal he goes and reads every vote - which I don't know firsthand, only from hearsay - the point would be to give the editors flexibility. So if the narrative they set up was like Spencer vs. Sandy, and they showed Spencer and Sandy each giving their confessional in the voting booth, then the FIRST votes they'd want to show would be Spencer's and Sandy's, to increase the drama. If the first vote you saw was someone else's, you'd know where the rest of the tribe had voted. Does that make sense? I can't think of a time on my season when we didn't know where every vote fell.
Glebe220		#4231	[-]
Posts: 2580 (12/28/11 08:57 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts	You knew that Erinn was going to vote for you instead of Sierra? You knew Taj was going to vote for Joe instead of Sandy? Or do you mean after the votes were read everyone realized who had voted for whom?
TheWizard		#4232	[-]
Posts: 1327 (12/28/11 09:11 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Glebe220 wrote: You knew that Erinn was going to vote for you instead of Sierra? You knew Taj was going to vote for Joe instead of Sandy? Or do you mean after the votes were read everyone realized who had voted for whom? Actually it's funny/ impressive that you remember those. The Taj vote for Joe was the only vote all season that took me by surprise. Oh, and the Taj vote for Debbie at the same tribal council that Erinn voted for me. I did know Erinn was going to vote for me. I found out just as I was coming back from telling Sierra that we were voting her out. (This was a mistake. I thought she'd want to know but it just really upset her). The girls came up and told us that Erinn would vote for me and Taj would vote for JT bc they didn't want to have to vote for Sierra. Ugh - I was not about to let that weaselly behavior go down, but it was RIGHT before we went to tribal council so I didn't have time to convince them not to. But Taj did switch her vote, from JT to Debbie, giving JT a perfect game and freaking Debbie out.
trickmind		#4233	[-]
Posts: 11645 (12/28/11 09:25 PM) Dragonslayer Reply Quote More Recent Posts	TheWizard wrote: jgabler wrote: TheWizard wrote: I don't think so .... I've heard that after TC, he does go through and read every vote to the cameras, so they can assemble the narrative in any way they choose - so theoretically, the votes that are actually shown at TC are not necessarily the ones that are shown on television. (This would only be relevant if like they wanted to play with your expectations by showing someone in a voting confessional and then showing their vote first, or whatever). I read somewhere that it takes him 10 minutes or so to tally the votes? I thought this was so he could read them in the most dramatic order possible? Sometimes we don't know someone got a vote until the closing credits, and while this isn't that relevant anymore as a tiebreaker, are the people concerned informed? (I guess you can only answer that if it happened on your season.) Yes it does take him a while to tally the votes, and yes it's definitely to read them in the most dramatic order possible. IF it's true that after tribal he goes and reads every vote - which I don't know firsthand, only from hearsay - the point would be to give the editors flexibility. So if the narrative they set up was like Spencer vs. Sandy, and they showed Spencer and Sandy each giving their confessional in the voting booth, then the FIRST votes they'd want to show would be Spencer's and Sandy's, to increase the drama. If the first vote you saw was someone else's, you'd know where the rest of the tribe had voted. Does that make sense? I can't think of a time on my season when we didn't know where every vote fell. I hate in an ORG when the first parchment shown is mine and then I know all the other votes are going to be for me and I'm out. That must be a million times worse on Survivor. Stephen wouldn't know about that though. Not personally.
TheWizard		#4234	[-]
Posts: 1328 (12/28/11 09:31 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	trickmind wrote: TheWizard wrote: jgabler wrote: I read somewhere that it takes him 10 minutes or so to tally the votes? I thought this was so he could read them in the most dramatic order possible? Sometimes we don't know someone got a vote until the closing credits, and while this isn't that relevant anymore as a tiebreaker, are the people concerned informed? (I guess you can only answer that if it happened on your season.) Yes it does take him a while to tally the votes, and yes it's definitely to read them in the most dramatic order possible. IF it's true that after tribal he goes and reads every vote - which I don't know firsthand, only from hearsay - the point would be to give the editors flexibility. So if the narrative they set up was like Spencer vs. Sandy, and they showed Spencer and Sandy each giving their confessional in the voting booth, then the FIRST votes they'd want to show would be Spencer's and Sandy's, to increase the drama. If the first vote you saw was someone else's, you'd know where the rest of the tribe had voted. Does that make sense? I can't think of a time on my season when we didn't know where every vote fell. I hate in an ORG when the first parchment shown is mine and then I know all the other votes are going to be for me and I'm out. That must be a million times worse on Survivor. Stephen wouldn't know about that though. Not personally. I mean I've heard. That's what the kids say.
m1k2		#4235	[-]
Posts: 186 (12/29/11 03:19 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	TheWizard wrote: I did know Erinn was going to vote for me. I found out just as I was coming back from telling Sierra that we were voting her out. (This was a mistake. I thought she'd want to know but it just really upset her). Lol, too funny! A question you might know the answer to. Do some players deliberately alter their hand writing style from TC to TC in order to obscure who they are voting for, or do people typically find out who voted for who soon enough?
RunawayJuror		#4236	[-]
Posts: 3478 (01/26/12 01:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	Stephen, are you going to be blogging about S24? Are you going to do a preview of what you think about the contestants? Also, didn't you see the 180 movie? How was it? Do DDL and Coach deserve a Golden Raspberry?
TheWizard		#4237	[-]
Posts: 1344 (01/26/12 01:21 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	m1k2 wrote: TheWizard wrote: I did know Erinn was going to vote for me. I found out just as I was coming back from telling Sierra that we were voting her out. (This was a mistake. I thought she'd want to know but it just really upset her). Lol, too funny! A question you might know the answer to. Do some players deliberately alter their hand writing style from TC to TC in order to obscure who they are voting for, or do people typically find out who voted for who soon enough? I thought about it, but ultimately everybody knows who voted for whom within like seconds after TC is over. There was one time where I was going to vote for Taj to convince her that like Brendan or Joe was out to get her or something, but it ended up not being worth it. I guess you could try to pull it off but it would take pretty good commitment to your lie.
TheWizard		#4238	[-]
Posts: 1345 (01/26/12 01:25 PM) Avocado Assassin Reply Quote More Recent Posts	RunawayJuror wrote: Stephen, are you going to be blogging about S24? Are you going to do a preview of what you think about the contestants? Also, didn't you see the 180 movie? How was it? Do DDL and Coach deserve a Golden Raspberry? 1) Yes! 2) We made it through about 30 minutes of the movie before the party devolved into conviviality and intoxication.
Maleia1		#4239	[-]
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Hippochinfat		#4240	[-]
Posts: 6217 (01/29/12 06:01 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts	A tree never hits an automobile except in self-defence. Remove this ad Stephen, has the topic of Sash's sexuality ever come up at any of the NYC Wine & Cheese parties? Do you think he's gay?

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