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(12/23/11 09:24 PM)
NotGregBuis wrote:He also gave his idol to the person who the Upolus were planning to vote for before Cochran tipped them off. So there's that. How did Ozzy have no real allies? He had made a 5 person alliance where he should have been closest to both Elyse and Keith. He also had played a good social game with Dawn by being her shoulder to cry on early on. There's no reason Jim should have screwed thei 3+2 alliance over "to weaken Ozzy" pre-merge, especially when Jim felt he was the architect of that alliance. He made a stupid move and booted a loyal and strong ally to keep a weak, neurotic flipper who cost them the next challenge and the game. Ozzy did everything correct that he could have.
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jonnyfairplay wrote:Pyre wrote:Also, I'm a little confused how Ozzy's social game was bad considering the fact that he would've won in a cakewalk had he made it to the end. any player from the pagonged tribe who didn't backstab their tribe to get to the end wins in a landslide, as the juries are stocked with betrayed pagonging tribe members and pagonged friends/allies.It would have been very different if Savaii prevailed at the merge. I don't know if ozzy would have won a FTC in the event of a savaii pagonging; maybe if he took cochran and jim? I doubt he makes it there without immunity, though, because he's an obvious target at F8-F6 and never had a hold on his tribe like Rob did
Pyre wrote:Also, I'm a little confused how Ozzy's social game was bad considering the fact that he would've won in a cakewalk had he made it to the end.
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(12/23/11 10:16 PM)
Battlekid wrote:NotGregBuis wrote:He also gave his idol to the person who the Upolus were planning to vote for before Cochran tipped them off. So there's that. How did Ozzy have no real allies? He had made a 5 person alliance where he should have been closest to both Elyse and Keith. He also had played a good social game with Dawn by being her shoulder to cry on early on. There's no reason Jim should have screwed thei 3+2 alliance over "to weaken Ozzy" pre-merge, especially when Jim felt he was the architect of that alliance. He made a stupid move and booted a loyal and strong ally to keep a weak, neurotic flipper who cost them the next challenge and the game. Ozzy did everything correct that he could have.It doesn't matter if Jim's move to boot Elise was good or bad, the point is, it displays how little control Ozzy actually had, and how poor his social game was. He wasn't respected by anyone in his own tribe, that they went behind his back and voted out his strongest allie. Then what does Ozzy do? He cries and tells them that he's now a free agent, just furthing himself from the tribe,They all mocked him, laughed at him, called him a baby and a bitch. Yeah, he really had great social game. Jim had total control of Savaii, and I'll bet my house Ozzy would have been in RI before final six, even if Savaii had control. In fact, Jim, Keith both said Ozzy would have been gone. He never had good social or Strategy. Just go back and look at his game on Micronesia when he had an idol and still got blindsided by a bunch of chicks. He never sees the blindsides coming. Once Elise left, he had no alliance. And not to mention everyone laughed at him during his master plan speech. The guy is terrible, and has no game what so ever outside of physicality which Sophie was better than him in anyway. He sucked at the game of Survivor, and always thought he was in control when he really wasn't. ANyway, I just don't see how any logical person can say that anyone who loses three times in one game, and five times total, deserves 100,000 dollars. Makes no sense.
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Zesty 66 wrote:Everyone can STFU, what Albert is saying is 100% truth. Ozzy IS a terrible player, and yes he would have won if he made the finals but only because of RI. That would have been a complete joke, and had he actually won after being voted out twice, not having to play the game at all, and getting to kiss up to every jury member, not only would he be the worst winner ever by an insurmountable margin, but it would have made a complete mockery of the show and everything 'Survivor' is supposed to represent. Albert is a much better player than Ozzy. I get being a fan of Ozzy, but I don't get people that actually thought he was robbed or that he deserved to win, or even who were disappointed that he didn't.
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I'm with STUPID!
Dictatorship wrote:WHY HAVE NONE OF THE CASTAWAYS POSTED HERE YET? I just kind of don't get it. There is nothing to really be afraid of, and they obviously lurk.
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(12/23/11 11:22 PM)
While Survivor is a social experiment at its heart , doesn't mean that someone bulldozing his way to the finals without having to play the social game that much is not a worthy winner. Someone like Albert and Sophie and most of the Savaii are playing basic textbook survivor 101 - Don't be a leader and draw unnecessary attention to yourself , stay under the radar and bring a goat into the final. Sophie did that. However , the Savaii do not think of Ozzy as a goat because they believe he will win if he goes into the finals hence why they will have gotten rid of him after the merge.
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marshal99 wrote:I think in both scenarios whether Upolu or Savaii got the upper hand after the merge , Ozzy will win if he had gotten into the finals.
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