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TieDyedTaint wrote:dabu wrote:TieDyedTaint wrote:Damn. I guess I have that new school mentality. Not a fan of the Pagongings --at all--. I'm a little sad to say this but season 19 and 20 are my ideal seasons and it's those kinds of twists and turns I'm craving in the newer seasons. I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way. Thanks for your two cents on my rock paper scissors idea, Sensei. I think I'm going to go ahead with the idea because it's something I'd like to see in Survivor. How do you think things would play out if the tribes were scrambled every cycle? Strategic-wise, I think it would be smartest to vote off the alpha-males and females ASAP because they could end up on either tribe, which are scrambled before every immunity challenge. So I would predict a secret Alpha-Crowd cross-tribal alliance. Any insight into this clusterfuck of an idea?I don't think Mario was referring to preferring a more exciting or unpredictable post-merge/blindsides in terms of viewing; hell, I do, too. That's virtually always more fun to watch than a string of five episodes in which it just goes Zapatera-Zapatera-Zapatera-Zapatera-Zapatera. The problem arises when somebody assumes that the person who has a more exciting game (i.e. Russell) has inherently played a better game than the person who sat back and did what they needed to without making themselves a target (i.e. Natalie).Oh, thanks for clearing that up dabu. I think my mentality is new school in the fact that I'm waiting, desperately hoping, that a -truly- controversial player wins.
dabu wrote:TieDyedTaint wrote:Damn. I guess I have that new school mentality. Not a fan of the Pagongings --at all--. I'm a little sad to say this but season 19 and 20 are my ideal seasons and it's those kinds of twists and turns I'm craving in the newer seasons. I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way. Thanks for your two cents on my rock paper scissors idea, Sensei. I think I'm going to go ahead with the idea because it's something I'd like to see in Survivor. How do you think things would play out if the tribes were scrambled every cycle? Strategic-wise, I think it would be smartest to vote off the alpha-males and females ASAP because they could end up on either tribe, which are scrambled before every immunity challenge. So I would predict a secret Alpha-Crowd cross-tribal alliance. Any insight into this clusterfuck of an idea?I don't think Mario was referring to preferring a more exciting or unpredictable post-merge/blindsides in terms of viewing; hell, I do, too. That's virtually always more fun to watch than a string of five episodes in which it just goes Zapatera-Zapatera-Zapatera-Zapatera-Zapatera. The problem arises when somebody assumes that the person who has a more exciting game (i.e. Russell) has inherently played a better game than the person who sat back and did what they needed to without making themselves a target (i.e. Natalie).
TieDyedTaint wrote:Damn. I guess I have that new school mentality. Not a fan of the Pagongings --at all--. I'm a little sad to say this but season 19 and 20 are my ideal seasons and it's those kinds of twists and turns I'm craving in the newer seasons. I don't think I'm alone in feeling this way. Thanks for your two cents on my rock paper scissors idea, Sensei. I think I'm going to go ahead with the idea because it's something I'd like to see in Survivor. How do you think things would play out if the tribes were scrambled every cycle? Strategic-wise, I think it would be smartest to vote off the alpha-males and females ASAP because they could end up on either tribe, which are scrambled before every immunity challenge. So I would predict a secret Alpha-Crowd cross-tribal alliance. Any insight into this clusterfuck of an idea?
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SenseiKreese wrote:TieDyedTaint wrote: It appears as if some players aren't doing anything but floating but I guess not making a move can be a move in itself. "New school mentality"? Hmmm. I've only seriously been watching Survivor since HvV. What is the "new school mentality"? I mean, I can see new viewers not quite grasping the importance of camplife and the social game because the editing shows less of that then the earlier seasons. Is that part of thecause of th new school mentality? "New school mentality" is this belief that to win Survivor you have to make big bold moves and you have to do things that are giant game changers. I'm not sure exactly when this logic started popping up among the fan base, but you see it all the time from people who just started watching Survivor in recent years. Especially from Russell fans. "Well how did so and so win! They didn't do anything!" In other words, "They didn't make huge moves, they suck!"The simple truth is that you have never needed big bold moves to win Survivor. And I can't tell you how disheartening it is to even see Jeff Probst start making these sorts of comments in recent years. More often than not, the people who win Survivor are the ones who -don't- stick their necks out and make big moves. More often than not, big moves are the things that fuck you up. To me, this is the clearest difference between old school fans and new school fans.
TieDyedTaint wrote: It appears as if some players aren't doing anything but floating but I guess not making a move can be a move in itself. "New school mentality"? Hmmm. I've only seriously been watching Survivor since HvV. What is the "new school mentality"? I mean, I can see new viewers not quite grasping the importance of camplife and the social game because the editing shows less of that then the earlier seasons. Is that part of thecause of th new school mentality?
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ElisabethHasselback42 wrote:What's the FoH2, and why do Russell fans hate it?
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bwburke94 wrote:I still don't get Coach at #1... the stick was funnier IMO. But you're the one making the list...
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SenseiKreese wrote:bwburke94 wrote:I still don't get Coach at #1... the stick was funnier IMO. But you're the one making the list... There was no chance anything other than Coach was ever going to be #1. The only thing that was in question as the list was going along was how I wanted to write it. Did I want it to be a tribute to Coach or did I want it to be a hatchet job? In the end I kind of split the difference and made it 50/50, but it was meaner and more negative than I originally intended because that was my reaction to the way he was portrayed in South Pacific. I had to know how he did in SP to determine how I wanted his entry to come off.
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SenseiKreese wrote: If Coach had won SP, the tone of the entry would have been "Hey remember when Coach was a joke? Watch as I sabotage his new legacy."If Coach had been the first one voted out of SP, the tone of the entry would have been "Awww let's go easy on Coach. Yeah he's goofy but here is why you should love him."I had to kind of split the difference down the middle since he did well but was also embarrassed at the end. It was a weird chapter in Coach's Survivor legacy.
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DragonSlayerCoach wrote:Mario, you live in Cali right? Kenny(or as he prefers, "Ken") from Gabon is opening a food truck in San Diego. jsyk.
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SenseiKreese wrote: Yeah I agree. Personally it just would have been better if he had never come back a third time at all. That sort of caught me off guard when they announced it. I was already nearly halfway through writing the entries when that news came out.
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