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Licorice wrote:Mark Steyn is a big liar - we are not broke. The national wealth of all American households is currently some $60 trillion (cf. Federal Reserve 'Flow of Funds' reports), with the top 10% owning some $50 trillion of that. Our annual deficit of $1 trillion looks puny by comparison and could easily be paid for by raising taxes on the wealthy. We just don't have the political will to do it. Or perhaps I should say our bought-and-paid-for politicians don't have the guts to do it. In a nutshell, we live in a plutocracy. We've always lived in a plutocracy. It's just that they've decided they don't want to pay for Medicaid/Medicare anymore. Or pay back what they stole from Social Security.
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APG wrote:Licorice wrote:Mark Steyn is a big liar - we are not broke. The national wealth of all American households is currently some $60 trillion (cf. Federal Reserve 'Flow of Funds' reports), with the top 10% owning some $50 trillion of that. Our annual deficit of $1 trillion looks puny by comparison and could easily be paid for by raising taxes on the wealthy. We just don't have the political will to do it. Or perhaps I should say our bought-and-paid-for politicians don't have the guts to do it. In a nutshell, we live in a plutocracy. We've always lived in a plutocracy. It's just that they've decided they don't want to pay for Medicaid/Medicare anymore. Or pay back what they stole from Social Security.Our debt of 16 trillion is more than 25% of that 60 trillion. You suggest that we confiscate a quarter of everyone's wealth to pay off the debt? I've already started hiding my wealth. So are others who have anything. You want to see the economy tank? Start seriously talking about confiscating wealth on a large scale like that.
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TheWhiteRabbit wrote:Obama and the Republicans know what they have to do. They're deadlocked on the 'grand bargain' though ($3 in spending cuts to every $1 in tax increases). I don't know what the deal is now, how this is suddenly just brushed aside now because they can't come to an agreement. Are we just going to do nothing now through the entire election year, keep letting the deficit grow with wanton abandon?
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APG wrote:Our debt of 16 trillion is more than 25% of that 60 trillion. You suggest that we confiscate a quarter of everyone's wealth to pay off the debt? I've already started hiding my wealth. So are others who have anything. You want to see the economy tank? Start seriously talking about confiscating wealth on a large scale like that.
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Tigershere wrote:People take care of public housing so so well .......
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Licorice wrote: Mark Steyn is a big liar - we are not broke. The national wealth of all American households is currently some $60 trillion (cf. Federal Reserve 'Flow of Funds' reports), with the top 10% owning some $50 trillion of that. Our annual deficit of $1 trillion looks puny by comparison and could easily be paid for by raising taxes on the wealthy. We just don't have the political will to do it. Or perhaps I should say our bought-and-paid-for politicians don't have the guts to do it. In a nutshell, we live in a plutocracy. We've always lived in a plutocracy. It's just that they've decided they don't want to pay for Medicaid/Medicare anymore. Or pay back what they stole from Social Security.
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Yeah, that 5 point lead in insurmounable...Carter lead Reagan by 34 points on January 29, 1980
President Carter so dominates the American political scene now that his margin over Ronald Reagan in a post-Iowa trial heat has risen to an overwhelming 65-31 percent. And against George Bush, the GOP candidate who finished first in the recent Iowa caucuses, Carter leads by only a slightly lower 62-32 percent.
These latest ABC News -Harris Survey results, taken among a cross section of 1,195 likely voters on January 22nd, dramatically illustrate the incredible political comeback of President Carter. Only four months ago, Reagan held a 50-45 percent lead over Carter. This means that a 5 point deficit has been turned into a 34 point lead over this short span of time. This is the largest lead President Carter has held over any Republican since July 1976, when he was 39 points ahead of President Gerald Ford.
The magnitude of Carter's lead can best be grasped by examining where the Carter-Reagan contest stands among groups which are usually Republican in their preference:
--In the suburbs, Carter
is now ahead of Reagan by a massive 66-30 percent. Voters between 50 and 64 years of age prefer Carter by 63-34 percent, and he has no~ soared to a 67-25 percent lead among those who are 65 and over. Among voters with incomes of $25,000 or more, Carter's margin is 60-36 percent. Business executives favor the President by a narrow 50-48 percent. Most startling of all, among those who c~ll themselves conservatives, Carter has a substantial 57-39 percent edge. Together, these groups of voters form the base of the modern Republican Party. Indeed, among Republican voters, Reagan is ahead, but only by a 61-37 percent margin. For the GOP to lose 37 percent of their party's faithful would be nothing short of disaster.
--So-called "swing" groups of voters, whose support is indispensable to either party in a close election, are also going for Carter by massive margins. Smalltown voters now prefer Carter by 60-35 percent. The college educated back the President by 61-35 percent. In the $15,000 to $25,000 income group, where Reagan is strongest, Carter nonetheless leads by 59-37 percent. Middle of the road voters are now behind Carter by 67-30 percent. Political independents give him a 63-32 percent lead.
--But Carter's strongest showing is among those groups who traditionally form the backbone of the Democratic Party. In the big cities, Carter is ahead of Reagan by 68-27 percent. Among young people under 30, he leads by 71-27 percent. Among blacks, he holds a lopsided 89-5 percent edge. Among Catholics, Carter is ahead by 68-29 percent. Among Jewish voters, he is winning by 75-18 percent. Among all Democrats, Carter is winning by 82-14 percent. And among political liberals, he is leading by 75-21 percent.
The Carter-Bush results are not very different, but there are some signs of where Bush might gain strength should he emerge as the Republican nominee:
--Among the college-educated group, Bush trails Carter, but only by a 54-40 percent margin. With those whose incomes are $25,000 or more, Carter's lead over Bush is no better than 51-44 percent. Among professional people, Carter is ahead of Bush by 54-39 percent, and Carter and Bush are tied at 48 percent among business executives. With independents, Carter is ahead of Bush by 56-36 percent. And among conservatives, Carter leads Bush by 54-39 percent. There seems little doubt that Bush is likely to gain on Carter among all of these important segments of the electorate if and when the international crises are resolved.
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Licorice wrote: We *could* tax unrealized capital gains as income...
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