Can a woman ever win Surivor again?

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A Dying Clown	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#41	[-]
Posts: 11541 (05/16/07 10:21 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* Put Dustin&Kandice in the show!!! They'd never win a jury vote - they have an amazing ability to make everyone they compete against hate them.
Oowatanite	Re: Can a woman ever win Survivor again?	#42	[-]
Posts: 9467 (05/16/07 10:22 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* It was kinda like a reversed version of Romber, except Amber didn't have half the brains Rafe did. Dumb statement, Wyl. Rafe stupidly booted Lydia at F4 rather than Danni, which cost him an easy victory over Steph. Meanwhile, Amber won the game over a perceived "goat" in ASS, using the "good cop, bad cop" strategy. Can a woman ever win Survivor again? Yes. Candice should and could have won CI, except for some really bad luck and bad production intervention. Danielle and Cirie had a legitimate shot at winning EI. Heck, Michelle had a shot at winning Fiji but she was booted due to a twist.
About Breaking the Rules	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#43	[-]
Posts: 3803 (05/16/07 4:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* They'd never win a jury vote - they have an amazing ability to make everyone they compete against hate them. That would make someone like Chris VEEEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRY happy.
fsmdud	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#44	[-]
Posts: 1935 (05/18/07 3:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	For a woman to win again, we need casting to give us women like some of the ones we saw in earlier seasons: Kathy Gina Gretchen Deena For some odd reason Survivor got caught up in this California model/works at a mall shit.
WylDawg	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#45	[-]
Posts: 21048 (05/18/07 3:59 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think having only recruits does play heavily in favor of men. We already have proof with post-ASS seasons being mostly recruits and guys constantly winning. Tom, Earl and Yul all won using basically the same strategy and if LaMina had the numbers, we would most likely add Terry to that list. You'd think people would know better and target those types of players right from the start, but no, Why? Because they're not students of the game and most probably never even watched it. So it's only natural that everybody lets a diplomatic, strong guy waltz through to the end because it seems like the normal thing to do when you're not familiar with the game. Women have a better shot at winning if they're playin against Survivor geeks, because Survivor geeks no better than to let strong males slide.
A Dying Clown	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#46	[-]
Posts: 11541 (05/18/07 4:10 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* women like some of the ones we saw in earlier seasons I think they did a good job trying with Margaret and Tina S. CI seemed to ignore mother figures entirely, favouring clueless little girls (worst female cast ever) and the older women in Fiji were clearly cast to be hopeless (Lisi as villain, Sylvia as bossy, Cassandra as lame Cirie knock-off).
fsmdud	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#47	[-]
Posts: 1935 (05/18/07 4:12 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	4 player types Challenger - i.e. uses an immunity run as the only method of staying in the game Social - i.e. primarily relying on alliances and friendships Strategic - i.e. a clear strategy, always thinking Emotional - i.e doing whatever the fuck they want, somewhat defies what is considered GOOD Survivor strategy, wear their thoughts/feelings on their sleeves whether good or bad Season 1: Strategic M defeats Challenger F Season 2: Social F defeats Emotional M Season 3: Social M defeats Challenger F Season 4: Strategic F defeats Emotional F Season 5: Strategic M defeats Emotional M Season 6: Challenger F defeats Emotional M Season 7: Emotional F defeats Emotional F Season 8: Social F defeats Strategic M Season 9: Challenger M defeats Emotional F Season 10: Challenger M defeats Social F Season 11: Challenger F defeats Strategic F Season 12: Social M defeats Emotional F Season 13: Strategic M defeats Challenger M / Social F Season 14: Social M defeats Emotional M / Social F Females appear to fare best against Strategic and Emotional players. Im sure Im going to get A LOT of disagreement with my above list. Its one of those things Id love to make a Speculation thread on.
Quiddity	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#48	[-]
Posts: 6731 (05/18/07 5:02 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* Season 11: Challenger F defeats Strategic F First I wouldn't rate Danni as a 'Challenger' for the simple reason that she wasn't immune at F5 and F4 and wasn't voted out. Yes, she needed to win the final immunity or she was gone, but you can hardly use F3 TC as saying someone needed an immunity run to stay. I'd rate her as social instead. Steph's hard to rate. You rated her strategic, which I can't agree with as she didn't have a clear strategy (except to backstab all her allies instead of voting out Danni I guess). She didn't need immunity ever the entire game so she definately wasn't a challenger. She wasn't social, many were upset at 'Goddess Steph' who stuffed her face like crazy and was so cruel to Lydia. And emotional? I'll at least give Steph credit here, I wouldn't say she played emotional in Guatemala. We need a fifth category :P
fsmdud	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#49	[-]
Posts: 1935 (05/18/07 7:01 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ "Strategic" doesnt imply GOOD, rational strategy. Its just that Steph thought she knew everything there was to know about playing the game from her stint in Palau. She used this methodology (albeit wrongfully so) when deciding to boot the "villains" Judd and Jamie, only to realize she herself was becoming that in the process. We knew way more about her strategy than anyone else in Guatemala. Thus, a "strategic" rating. Or... we could just call it "Stephenie" as a 5th separate category. She is, after all, an exception in all other ways
panurge46	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#50	[-]
Posts: 1552 (05/18/07 7:39 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* For a woman to win again, we need casting to give us women like some of the ones we saw in earlier seasons: Kathy Gina Gretchen Deena I missed those seasons when these women won!! We've had women that could win in both Exile Island and Cook Island. The breaks didn't go their way, that's all.
About Breaking the Rules	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#51	[-]
Posts: 3803 (05/18/07 9:33 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* Season 10: Challenger M defeats Social F Katie's social game ended up being nothing short of atrocious. Her treatment of potential jury votes, coupled with a work ethic on a par with a Mallrat (S3), made absolutely positively sure she would be subject to a backlash and a landslide loss. *Quote:* Season 14: Social M defeats Emotional M / Social F Cassandra also possessed a major emotional characteristic: she bought into the idea that virtue was more important than strategy. It's like she wanted to play den mother at summer camp.
sunflower100	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#52	[-]
Posts: 2963 (05/18/07 11:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	the problem is if all of the alpha males, or challenge monsters are targeted it could weaken a tribe too much, and make them lose several challenges before the merge. you need a good mix of targeting the huge immunity threats, before the merge but not leaving a team so weak they can't win challenges. i do think this stradegy will come into play in allstars 2. i think that people will be so worried about the merge, that some of the immunity threats before the merge could be taken out. they will be the new targets, instead of the winners due to how there have been several challenge dominators.
chad6	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#53	[-]
Posts: 3766 (05/19/07 2:00 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^^^ I hope so, I can't stand Terry an Ozzy
AnomyBC	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#54	[-]
Posts: 4943 (05/19/07 3:30 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* For a woman to win again, we need casting to give us women like some of the ones we saw in earlier seasons: Kathy Gina Gretchen Deena Um, but none of those women won. Don't you mean women like Tina, Vecepia, Jenna M, Sandra, Amber, etc? And, incidentally, Gretchen was one of the worst players of all time. She was completely clueless and totally against the idea of alliances. And what exactly did Gina ever do?
kingpin34	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#55	[-]
Posts: 6775 (05/19/07 6:27 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think it just feels like a male-dominated game now. I'm sure Earl or Yul winning would've been much easier to swallow if say, they narrowly beat an "Ami" type player, and not some (edited as) useless little bitch. Right or wrong? When Sandra, Jenna M., Danni, Amber or Tina won, there was always a strong male character to balance out the chick-power, so things didn't seem as though they were tailored to help women succeed.
ryanne35	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#56	[-]
Posts: 768 (05/19/07 10:16 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I haven't read the entire thread, so I apologize if this has been said, but I don't think it's a coincidence that all males have won since the hidden immunity idol has been introduced. Has a female ever held the hidden immunity??!? Seriously, it's an okay idea, but executed horribly. All strong males are sent to exile island, so let's reward them by giving them a hidden immunity? Horribly played out. As long as exile island exists, and all males keep being sent, females will have a much harder time winning.
panurge46	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#57	[-]
Posts: 1552 (05/19/07 12:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* I don't think it's a coincidence that all males have won since the hidden immunity idol has been introduced...As long as exile island exists, and all males keep being sent, females will have a much harder time winning. Ryanne, I don't agree: In Exile Island, Danielle was sent as often to the island as Terry was. Even Sally made a trip there. In Cook Island, exile Island became known as "Candice Island". Those idols were found quickly so the women were too late but women were sent to Exile Island. In Candice's case, she was only 1 episode late since she was there in episode #3. This season, the idol was harder to find but Sylvia was sent to exile island for the first and third clues. Even Lisi was sent to the island before the Ravu idol had been found. As I've said, women still have had chances to win but the breaks, including the HII, haven't gone their way. That's all.
Francois40	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#58	[-]
Posts: 2843 (05/19/07 9:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	*Quote:* actually i do think that more males will eventually be voted out pre-merge. i think people are going to be more worried about not getting rid of the terry/ozzy types after the merge. i think this will happen, especially on allstars. i think people will be a lot more worried that someone will go on a huge challenge run towards the end, so they will be voted out a lot sooner. But people have had 14 seasons to realize this! However, they never do; they always think "We need to keep the challenge strength" and keep them (Hunter, J.P. and possibly Bobdawg [I say "possibly" because he was hurt] being the prime exceptions).
gibson97	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#59	[-]
Posts: 687 (05/19/07 10:43 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well i definitely think that the exile immunity idol favors the "strong" players in the game, which are most likely thought of as the males early in the game.
CandiceGentry	Re: Can a woman ever win Surivor again?	#60	[-]
Posts: 195 (05/20/07 3:31 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Francois wasn't BobDawg voted out because they were certain he would flip over to LaMina aka The Bromance tribe at the merge.

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