Yeah, most bitter ones have obviously, but some havn't.
Like Rafe. Yes he was mad and angry at Danni but he was never going to not vote for Steph, his day one ally, his pawn who screwed up her own game to be his butt-monkey.
Any others?

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Robert Qld |
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Just interested in discussing this. Often we talk about bitter jurors, but not all of them have voted bitter (even though they where bitter).
Yeah, most bitter ones have obviously, but some havn't. Like Rafe. Yes he was mad and angry at Danni but he was never going to not vote for Steph, his day one ally, his pawn who screwed up her own game to be his butt-monkey. Any others? |
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kingpin34 |
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Rafe DID vote for Steph
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FormerLongTimeLurker |
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I guess Christy is the most obvious example of this.
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x0xcindychickx0x |
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Kelly G
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Quiddity |
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Quote: Rafe was arguably the most bitter of any on the Guatemala jury. He liked Steph more? So why'd he destroy her game? With Danni he helped her out week after week, ended up destroying his own game to help her by stabbing allies in the back, severly weakening his jury chances. Then she voted him out and he was so upset that he voted for ultra goat. |
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Robert Qld |
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^He was with Steph from the start. He only got to know Danni at merge and even then it didn't appear that he bonded with her at all until the family visit at the final six when he used her to oust Judd. Danni was to Rafe as much as a pawn as Steph, she just didn't have a close friendship connect as he did with Steph (yes Virginia, in Survivor, friends can make the best pawns).
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growsonwalls |
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Kathy from ASS is one example. She was sniffling about Rob's "betrayal" but voted for Rob anyway
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panurge46 |
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Kathy was lied to by Amber more than Rob. Amber made a deal with Kathy when she was left alone in Chapera. Rob never promised Kathy anything during the game. Kathy did vote out of spite even if she didn't like either's gameplay.
Christy hated Jenna and never concluded the deal with her. Matt was with Rob when they promised her to boot one of the evil twins. The only way to explain Christy's strange vote is to say she was more bitter at Matt for voting her out than she hated Jenna. Helen was bitter at Brian for lying to her but she couldn't vote for Clay. Brian had her in a checkmate position. Rafe knew he had destroyed Steph's game. I always thought his vote was a pity vote because he knew what was in store for Steph and it wasn't going to be pretty. Very few jurors forgave their backstabber. Maybe Zoe is the only one that did so by choice rather than having to choose beween her backstabber and someone she hated. But then we are talking about Zoe. How much did we learn about her? Was there much to learn about her? |
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izad |
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There's a picture of Rafe right next to the word "bitter" in the dictionary.
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growsonwalls |
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Jenna from ASS didn't vote bitter. She voted for Rob.
Ian from Palau didn't vote bitter. Actually I think Ian's vote was a pretty "backstab" vote. He should have voted for Katie, who saved his ass at the F4 tribal council. Katie wouldn't have won, but it would have been a less humiliating loss. I always think that there was something going on with Ian/Katie that neither of them want to talk about. I remember a Survivor Live where Ian hosted and Katie called in, very friendly, and when she hung up Ian said, "She called me last week and I never called her back. So, hi Katie." With a smirk. That sounds like a very ex thing to say. Colleen didn't vote bitter. She said later that it was Sue Hawk's speech that made her sympathetic to Kelly, although her vote was originally going to go to Rich, since Kelly had dangled her with leaving the Tagi4 alliance without delivering the goods. So she was going to vote bitter but decided to switch her vote. RobC from Amazon didn't vote bitter. Jenna voted him out, but he voted for her because she played a better game. Ted, Jan, and Helen didn't vote bitter, as they all voted from Brian even though he strung all of them along. |
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panurge46 |
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Jenna is A$$ wasn't bitter because she knew Rob and Amber were together. She knew she needed to win IC to have a shot.
Ian's original agreement with Tom was to battle it out in the final IC and the winner takes Katie. He wasn't betrayed by Tom rather brainwashed! Instead of forgiving a backstabber he wanted his "father's" forgiveness. Rob C in Amazon wasn't backstabbed by Jenna. She told him directly that she was battling to the end. Matt not trying to win final immunity gave reason to Rob to be mad at him rather than Jenna. Ted, Jan and Helen faced the prospect of voting Brian or Clay. Hatred is a stronger emotion than bitterness but certainly not nobler. Colleen was pagonged. Kelly and Rich both did her in so her vote wasn't based on how she was treated in the game. |
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growsonwalls |
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Quote: I agree Tom really brainwashed Ian but Katie was the one who actually put Ian in the F3. By doing so, she burned her last bridge (Jen) and also ensured that she'd be in the F3 with people she could never win against, whereas she might have had a shot against Jen. So Ian's "bitter" vote should have been for Katie. But he said he voted for Tom because he respected Tom's gameplay. So I think that was one of the all-time non-bitter jury votes. |
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gab500 |
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Quote: Christy's vote really is not the mystery that people have made it out to be. It was confirmed long ago through sources that know Christy that she voted for Jenna because she was highly aware she was being scrutinized as a role model for the deaf community (especially by the children she works with), and she didn't want to come off as this bitter, vengeful harpie. I'm sure she was also thinking of "life after Survivor" and was concerned about protecting her positive, nice girl media image as well. After all, one of the main reasons she went on Survivor was to raise awareness of deaf people and deaf culture and to demonstrate that they could accomplish anything a person with hearing could. It's easy to see how being a bitter juror could tarnish the positive, strong image of deaf people Christy was trying to convey. Hence, her vote for Jenna. |
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panurge46 |
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Thanks for the info Gab. It is amazing that even Survivor players have spin doctors nowadays! Once a season is over, it's over for me. I listen to survivor live and other post-show interviews to learn tid-bits during the season but post season spins do not mean much more than damage control.
If Christy wanted to leave a good impression, too bad we all remember her final words after her elimination! |
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Quiddity |
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Quote: Kelly didn't vote out Colleen (she threw her vote away on Sean, same with Jenna). Although yeah, her earlier votes for Gretchen and Greg that gave Tagi an unbreakable majority did eventually result in Colleen's boot even if she wasn't directly responsible for her being voted off. Kelly did a good job earning her jury vote, although she really blew it with others ("Gretchen and Sonja deserve to be the final 2!") @_@ I have a lot more disrespect for Christy for her voting Jenna than had she voted Matt. Even though Jenna treated her like crap (at least Heidi talked to Christy! Did we ever see Jenna do that while Christy was in the game?) she felt she had to vote for her to be a better role model? Makes me want to vomit. Make a statement, don't go along with the crowd, you'll be more respected that way. Thats what I have to say about the matter. |
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WylDawg |
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I more or less agree about Kathy. Yes, she kinda forgave Rob, but then again, she never seemed very close to Amber and never seemed to like her at all. Not to mention she got equally screwed by her.
I get the feeling if it was anyone else than Amber against Rob, she would've voted for that person. |
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beatles20147 |
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I disagree. In a final three of Rob/Amber/Jenna, as long as he got to the final two, Rob was getting Kathy's vote...she didn't like Jenna very much.
But if it were Jenna/Amber, then I think she would have voted for Jenna. |
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survivorisdabest |
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I think kathy was possibly the worst juror ever in all stars. It was obvious she hated amber and was bitter at her cos amber promised her an alliance after the merge. Yet she keeps whingign and whining and crying and her jury questions are absolutely ridiculous.
"amber do you love rob? is it real?" WTF thats not anything to do with the game you stupid idiot. "rob im really hurt i thought we were friends survivor is life blah blah please say sorry omg" then she goes and votes bitterly for rob and tries to cover ti up with an even worse reason which was basically "rob please be my friend i forgive you please this vote will make you my friend right? PLEASE" pathetic. |
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Robert Qld |
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^I am sort of with you there, I have always hated 'poor old me, I am so hurt, wah wah wah' speeches (Poopert and Kathy being the two big ones).
To me that is being bitter, but just being really passive-agressive about it. |
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TheMysteryMan2004 |
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In Vanuatu Ami was bitter about Twila yet she still ended up voting for her, her question being along the lines of "If you can lie on your son for a million dollars, how come you can't fake an apology to Eliza for a million?"
Eliza, bitter juror yet still voted for Chris. |
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Robert Qld |
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Good call.
One could potentially add Julie as well, though I tend to think Julie was reflective enough to admit she screwed over Chris majorly at the merge when she flipped, and thus it was just karma when he successfully returned the favour and knifed her. |
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