It all started with Tom Westman. He was a great player,but since a fireman isnt supposed tobe ruthless, they utterly ignore his strategic game. Then Danni is
totally ignored. Then Aras, who totally fucked up Ciries game, isnt even given credit as a great player, much less a great winner that he is. Same with Earl.
Todd is given praise because hes a fan of the show? That doesnt make you a good player. Amanda had a bad jury speech,but she was clearly the best player, and
Probst ignores it
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Im sick of Jeff Probst playing favorites and spreading propaganda |
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Posts: 859 (12/17/07 10:17 AM) Registered user |
LOL @ Amanda being the best player
Tom, Dani, Aras, Earl, Amanda - hey kids, can you pick the one that doesn't fit with the rest? |
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Posts: 25427 (12/17/07 10:18 AM) Amazing Race Moderator |
All those people sucked.
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Posts: 13495 (12/17/07 10:22 AM) Registered user |
Amanda DID have game. I can't believe Todd fans are still denying it. They played as a pair and their games were 100% dependant on each other, and you
can't be a strong player who plays as a pair with a dead weight player.
They practically made all of the same moves, so please explain to me why Todd was the genius and Amanda was the retard. And if it weren't for Amanda BTW, Todd would be congratulating James on his million dollar check. |
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Posts: 21325 (12/17/07 10:23 AM) MadStudNYC |
DR, Will, I agree with you. But Todd was also a good player. The favoritism does sorta suck. I thought Boo Bernis was one of the more affable people to have
ever graced this show, and he was practically ignored at the Fiji wrap.
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Posts: 860 (12/17/07 10:23 AM) Registered user |
Todd = won the game
Amanda = got beat by fucking Courtney! |
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Posts: 1238 (12/17/07 10:25 AM) |
so please explain to me why Todd was the genius and Amanda was the retard Because in the end Todd owned his evil and Amanda tried to apologize for it Otherwise you are completely correct, Amanda played a great game. She just blew it at the end. |
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Posts: 21327 (12/17/07 10:27 AM) MadStudNYC |
I liked Courtney's game, too. She's a blunt bitch. I respect that, even if I think she can be nasty. Not nasty like some people at EZ, but you catch
my drift.
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Posts: 2070 (12/17/07 10:35 AM) Registered User |
I think Amanda played a great game up until the final TC!
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Posts: 1320 (12/17/07 10:39 AM) |
The best non-winner was Peih-Gee. |
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Posts: 11636 (12/17/07 10:40 AM) >: | |
Amanda DID have game. I can't believe Todd fans are still denying it. They played as a pair and their games were 100% dependant on each other, and you can't be a strong player who plays as a pair with a dead weight player. GIANT RED ECKS!!! |
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Posts: 708 (12/17/07 11:09 AM) Registered User |
People need to address the issue of why Jeff keeps on favoring James and Denise, when they are the two dumbest players in Survivor history.
James is not an immunity monster Jeff. James won 0 immunity challenges. 0! |
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Posts: 63 (12/17/07 11:11 AM) |
pussycow wrote: Bingo. Amanda showed she had no spine for what she did. She can make all the moves with Todd she wants, but he stood there proud of what he did while she gave hangdog looks. She torpedoed herself in the final TC and she deserved to lose to Courtney. |
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Posts: 5566 (12/17/07 11:16 AM) Registered User |
survivor300 wrote: Try final 4 TC. Before, when Amanda and Courtney were talking, they were saying Todd is really good at talking to people, sugarcoating things, etc. This
was seen in his great response to JR. While Courtney did have a much better final TC than I thought she would, Amanda would've had the best shot against
Denise and Courtney. While Denise thought she would win, she probably wouldn't have. This jury was not sympathetic and seemed to value people playing
(for the most part).
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Posts: 718 (12/17/07 11:27 AM) Registered user
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Burrito Taco wrote: Aras? |
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Posts: 4709 (12/17/07 11:44 AM) Registered user |
If we are thinking about this in a sports idea (lets say basketball): Basically Todd and Amanda were tied in the fourth quarter with 2 minutes left in the
game. Amanda started to feel the pressure of the game and instead of stepping up her game to win the game, she buckled under pressure (e.g., getting too
personal/emotional over Denise, didn't take a risk to take out Todd, crumbled at the jury vote). Todd on the other hand, was flawless in the last 2 minutes
(jury responses, owning his responsibilities of lying/deceving in the game context).
Pure and simple, Amanda choked in the last seconds of the game. Todd capitalized on it and won. |
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Posts: 2478 (12/17/07 11:48 AM) Registered User |
A lot of people were ignored, because half the freaking reunion show was dedicated to Jean Robert! :puke
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Posts: 22905 (12/17/07 11:49 AM) Registered user |
WylDawg wrote:It's the JURY PRESENTATION, Wyl. That's the difference. Todd demonstrated once again that being upfront, no-nonsense and unapologetic induces more people to vote for you, than being hangdog, apologetic and wishy-washy. Amanda may have made the same moves; she may have even made MORE moves than Todd, but if she can't make the jury see that hers is the superior gameplay, then she'll lose. Apologizing for what you did to get to the end has more often than not ended up with that person losing. Ever since Kelly Wiglesworth that has held true. Todd didn't just not apologize, he made it possible for someone who had vowed not to vote for him, ever, to turn around and feel okay about voting for him. That is good gameplay. That's how you win the million in this game. That's making it palatable for people to vote for you to win even though you lied, or double-booked yourself or whatever. 'Genius' and 'retard' are overused terms in the context of this game. |
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Posts: 25428 (12/17/07 11:52 AM) Amazing Race Moderator |
Burrito Taco wrote: No, those are all people I'd love to see fall off the face of Earth never to return....
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Posts: 2450 (12/17/07 11:53 AM) Resident Lesbian |
Amanda played one of the best games I had seen on Survivor... until the jury that is. However... it shouldn't take away from how well she played the game
itself.
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Posts: 8434 (12/17/07 11:57 AM) Registered user |
Wyl, NC, fucking enough already. You guys are just making shit up now based on a couple posts. I read back through a lot of the Todd thread and I see a
fuckload of Amanda praise.
You guys read the spoilers, you thought she was going to win, she lost. Thus, Todd played a great game, Amanda played most of a really really good game. Matter of fact I seem to remember YOU GUYS being the ones shitting on TODD when us Todd fans were praising Amanda. What's good for the goose is good for the gander boys, don't make things up to prove your point. -SJ™ |
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