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What astounds me about Fund is his need to blatantly LIE... he is an intelligent man who cannot use with any plausibility the "I don't know" or "Denial" bullshit.. it rang insincere, manipulative and frankly smug. He seemed hellbent on confirming all what many are beginning to think and hopefully BELIEVE about the Republican party.

I believe there are many good Republicans, Lincoln Chafee for one sadly no longer in office and would have been a great VP candidate btw, who do not subscribe to the "Dogma"(Dogma is the established belief or doctrine held by a religion, ideology or any kind of organization, thought to be authoritative and not to be disputed, doubted or diverged from. While in the context of religion the term is largely descriptive, outside of religion its current usage tends to carry a pejorative connotation-referring to concepts as being "established" only according to a particular point of view, and thus one of doubtful foundation. This pejorative connotation is even stronger with the term dogmatic, used to describe a person of rigid beliefs who is not open to rational argument)

and that is what it is .. not a doctrine but a full on Religious like doctrine that has little or no room for any opposition, conflict or dissension. You are either WITH us or with the terrorist mentality... and that is with regards to ANYTHING.. social, political, international, domestic. etc.. the Republicans have NO ROOM for anyone else at the table and this has been 30 years in the making. It was a cohesive and cognizant ideology that for a brief period was very successful.. they were intent on destroying the Democratic party and literally making the United States a domain of a single Political entity.. that is not Democracy and yet they have the audacity to use that ideal for pursuing their single minded agenda.. FRIGHTENING.

I also felt Jeanane as much as I like her has to be careful with her words... she has to use intelligent arguments lest come across as shrill and annoying which is something the Republicans do to bait people and watch them implode.. it gives credence to their viewpoint. I felt Roseanne would have handled it better given the opportunity.. she is right Palin is a distraction and we must focus on McCain, his record, his policies, his inaccuracies and inadequacies.. not hers.

I always appreciate Andrew and I think he and Naomi should have been the singular guests with a focused discussion on economy.. which leaves the third spot well for an ECONOMIST.. not a nice rapper/singer/token black man it just makes him look well stupid and I suspect he isn't because he knew to keep his mouth shut.

As for the issues.. Andrew only slightly touched on and Naomi sure as hell didn't the culpability of the American people in this debacle.. you wanted your free lunch fuckers well you got it the tip however was 800 billion trillion dollars.. eat that bitch. And sadly you stiffed me for it!!!

I saw 10 years ago the greed generated by the Dot Com boomdoggle... when Dr. Koop.com is a "site" I knew instantly this was a business going down the shitter fast... I pulled all of our money out.. I saw Real Estate turn into that as a part of the dot com bullshit.. fucktard geeks with more money than sense bid on houses inflating the values and running amok buying cars at well beyond sticker and basically acting like the fucktard donkeys they are. I was living in San Francisco and saw the "I me mine" first hand.. I went to a house for sale and asked the realtor on what the selling price was based.. she grandly informed me that the house down the street sold for that price.. I am sorry.. what so this house is IDENTICAL to that one hence the price.. square footage, lot size, rooms, appliances.. Everything.. she just looked at me.. and a mor-fucking-on bought that piece of shit for 100k over asking... without asking shit.. there were no inspection contingencies, rushed assessments done by the very banks financing, and people saying well I may not have made it in the dot com days but booyah I just bought me an overpriced million dollar fixer!!!!

Many people were manipulated by GREEDY scum of the earth real estate agents who saw an opportunity to do NOTHING to serve their customers except sell or encourage others to overpay for housing with the "idea" that they could sell later for much more and be fine.. of course they didn't say how later such as in a day or week or years and how much more and in fact was their salary and job secure for this debt and well hey they could hook them up with a mortgage through their friend.... conflict of interest abounds but not a problem with ethics of agents representing both buyers and sellers and hell even the builders putting these dumps up to sell to the greedy asswipes drooling for it....

Yes we all got rich ON PAPER which isn't worth the paper its printed on.... for the love of god the previous decade taught us nothing.. and that was under the watch of Bill Clinton and his fucking robot dipshit Richard Rubin who is now Obama's advisor on this.. that fucker was bailing out foreign companies setting into motion this shit today....

This topic is way out of depth for Bill's show.. the other Bill, Moyer no... but this is one of the most complex and bizarre economic issues we are facing and it is not easily fixed as well it has no basis in history nor is one anyone planned for... this is the GREAT DEPRESSION people only what is sad is that more are affected by this than we will ever know... but right now its corporate rich folk welfare and we are once again dupes in a system that has yet to explain to us what exactly are we buying, what we own and what that means..and why because NO ONE knows. Its that fucking complicated. Are there minds capable of making sense, of finding resolution.. yes there may well be.. but they are not part of the Obama nor McCain team and that is what worries me.

finally you succumb its only a matter of time... the boys are mixing the drinks now... and for you we will roll out the Pucci scarves.. so 60s.

I really appreciate the kudos but in all respects I simply read and watch a great deal of television.. and I urge everyone to make an effort to examine what has happened over the last 20 years... this is not just Bush's fault as much as I would love to say.. he just drove the final nail in the coffin. One of the finest and perhaps honest minds is Kevin Phillips who has written many books over many years on the subject of the economy. But there are many others who have for the past several years.. my personal favorite book is Irrational Exuberance that discusses our obsession with quick wealth and money.

I look to our own selves to blame for this.. we have long become a nation of debt vs manufacturing and production.. the only thing we produce is software technology and given time that too will escape our grasp.. just look at this week's stock gains.. Microsoft and Intel are down, however Oracle is up... that said Microsoft is a global giant that does very little in the form of innovation, they are however brilliant at being a monopoly... name the competitors who are equivalent to Excel.. Google is making headway and Linux is now moving out of the College field and IBM is helping.. but in all honesty what do you run as a Spreadsheet that is NOT Excel...

Bill Gates was and is a bully and I am not fooled by his bullshit philanthropy.. some of its rooted in building Mircosoft.. Computers for the poor powered by Microsoft... Conflict of Interest anyone. He is the reason I am a Mac user and I have a shitloads of problems in work but I ended up outsourcing, yes outsourcing to produce stuff for me.. do I feel guilt.. no I pay them the standard rate for admin work 15 bucks an hour.. which brings me that issue.. 15 bucks an hour in the US doesn't keep you in Top Ramen but that my friends is the going wage.. I overpay my Fillipino assistant... she bids at 3 to 4 bucks an hour....which shit for small business is fucking awesome..my friend uses an Indian group for 10 bucks a month to do minor assistant work... we could not operate without it... do I feel bad that I don't pay for health care and taxes.. WELL TO THAT FUCK THAT.. the US govt does little to help us...

This bailout is for the rich.. who do you know directly affected by the Lehman bros collapse or by Bear Stearns.. as for AIG I do have or DID have insurance with them but I am already on the hunt for a new policy.... as for WASH Mutual I quit banking with them over a dozen years ago when they suddenly became a shyster bank... I went with Wells Fargo and do you see them on the front page of the business page even BOA who are fucked are doing welll and there are many regional banks that are highly successful and fine.. why they are ethical.

This problem is systemic from 20 years ago when Reagan did his best to break unions, to move towards deregulation and gradually and yes Bill Clinton too towards globalization.. for as long as there were any type of constraints or rules governing anything from wages, to health care to environmental protections... US companies did their best to circumnavigate that... and who cares if a bunch of Mexicans are exposed to toxic waste.. the smart ones were Indians and Chinese who figured that in addition to the dirty air, dirty money had more weight.

There has been a slow decline of wages over the last decade, less jobs were added over this decade than the prior and wages were not commensurate... why do you think they are against immigration reform.. if we don't have a steady stream of illegal brown people how can employers exploit and underpay them to do the jobs that white people won't.. and why won't they because they don't pay.. so you want a union? You want healthcare? You want a raise? Well fuck you and say hi to Jose as he will take your job and at less pay... and by god I don't blame Jose.. its market driven... he however loses an arm or eye but what the fuck ever right.. he has no documentation.... and you my friends have to take jobs at the same pay because well its that or nothing.... We make these people legal.. they may ask for those pesky rights we so feel entitled to.. When you go to McDonalds as that is all you can afford now.. take a look around what used to be the job for teens is now illegals. and teens are doing entry level jobs that college students used to.. bank teller, Macy's clerk, etc.. and our service reflects it.. SHIT.. why young people if they aren't in technology are FUCKED... but they will soon if aren't feeling now because Sanjay or Pinjin is right there waiting to take that job too... and that isn't immigration or racism that is not the real issue its companies fucking over workers in the zeal for profits and big payoffs for executives.